Find's Treasure Forums - Tesoro Forum If you own or plan to own a Tesoro metal detector this forum is for you!http://www.findmall.com/list.php?17Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:04:38 -0600 Phorum 5.2-dev http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1094391,1094391#msg-1094391 Golden uMax coils comparison (no replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1094391,1094391#msg-1094391 jabbo Tesoro ForumFri, 20 Nov 2009 09:45:44 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1094071,1094071#msg-1094071 Interesting .................5x10 Widescan (no replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1094071,1094071#msg-1094071 morelic55 Tesoro ForumThu, 19 Nov 2009 19:10:09 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1093649,1093649#msg-1093649 Tesoro Cortes vs. Troy Shadow X-5 (5 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1093649,1093649#msg-1093649 pjroo3 Tesoro ForumFri, 20 Nov 2009 12:20:12 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092917,1092917#msg-1092917 DigDug1228 ... Here are my responses to several of your recent posts. (1 reply)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092917,1092917#msg-1092917This is easier than responding on each of your posts.

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Would the 4.0 or the 5.75 be a help in the tot lots, or would it be a waste of money?
Either of these coils would be better in tot lots than the standard 8" or 8X9 coils Tesoro uses ... unless you're hunting the very open playground spaces. For workign in and around the play structures, both are good considerations. Definitely, not a waste of money.

Having used all Tesoro coils and virtually every Tesoro that they've made for land searches, I favor the 5¾" coil over the 4". Actually, I used to dump the stock 8" or 8½" or 8X9, depending upon the model, and opt for a 7" concentric coil on a Tesoro. I have been for 26++ years, but, today, I am really tugged between picking the 7" concentric or the 5¾" concentric.


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Would I be better to buy a Campadre?
I don't think so. While I like the Compadre in general, in is mainly due to the quieter, cleaner working Discriminate circuitry when hunting dense nail and small iron trashed sites. However, the Silver µMAX allows quick search coil changes, a toggle to switch between a variable ED-120 Disc. function and a motion Disc. that accepts almost All Metals. It also has the variable Sensitivity control.


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Also any ideas on coils to go deeper for coins?
If a site is CLEAN, both ferrous and non-ferrous targets, so as to NOT have any target masking issues, then a stock coil up to something in the 10" range will generally get the best depth on smaller coin-sized targets. If a site is trashy, and you don't intend to remove the masking trash, then pick a decent smaller coil and work it slowly and methodically to "cherry pick" the most probably coins from the site. Depth, however, will be impaired by surface/shallow targets.


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If I buy one i don't want to send it back for retune so what coils work best out of the box?
If you do not want to have to open a detector up and mess with an internal trimmer, or ship your detector and coils off to the factory or a reputable dealer/user for proper calibration, then you should own a model that has manual Ground balance. A Bandido, Bandido II, Bandido II µMAX, or Eldorado µMAX, to name a few.

A coil could be bad "out of the box' or good, but if it and the detector are not properly balanced to the environment, you're not going to get peak performance. If the GB is too negative, you can have severe falsing. If way too positive, you might lose high-conductive targets, like silver dollars, halves, and more.


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Compadre 5.75 vs Silver Umax with 5.75, are they the same in the tot lot? Which is better?
They can be quite similar in tot lot, but the edge goes to the Compadre if there is a lot of small iron (hairpins, paperclips, etc, and to the Silver µMAX for depth of detection and versatility.


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What depth can i expect from the 4.0 and the 5.75 on a Silver Umax?
It depends on the medium in the tot lot, as well as the presence of masking targets, etc., but basically the depth is comparable with the diameter of a coil, and possibly a bit more relative to smaller coils.


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Why did Tesoro pick 10khz for the silver, why not 12khz? I've heard that 12khz is a little better for small gold. So why put the silver at 10khz?
Forget the operating frequency. There is textbook "theory" and then there is actual in-the-field performance. As far as Tesoro models are concerned, the early motion-based discriminators operated at 12.5 kHz, and most of the Tesoro/Tesoro-made models have operated from 9.6 kHz for the Troy Shadow X2 (a slight shift from the Silver Sabre µMAX it stemmed from), to the 15 kHz of the Golden Sabre Plus. Certainly most operate in the 10-12 kHz range and there is very, very, VERY little difference in performance between them on conductive targets.

Most of the difference in performance from one model to the next has to do with the range of discrimination, the as well as other circuitry designs. You could even include the audio frequency since some of us don't hear target responses as well from a lower-tone audio Tesoro model. Most of my searches in gold jewelry potential sites in the past quarter of a century have been done with Tesoro's that worked in the 10 kHz to 12 kHz range, or White's models that operate in 6.59 kHz. Earlier, when most of the White's models were the four-filter, faster-sweep designs, it was the Tesoro detectors that scored most of my low-conductive gold jewelry. But after using White's 2-filter, quick-response Detectors mode and more for the last half of that period, working at the same 6.59 kHz frequency, these various Classic series model have produced perhaps 85% of my gold jewelry.

Location is most important, and keeping a low discriminate setting is #2. It matters very little whether your Tesoro choice is a ±10 kHz or or ± 12 kHz operating model as it does the rest of the circuitry design, settings, and coil choice. Most of the time I search with a smaller-than-stock coil. An exception would be the Compadre because either the earlier versions with the 7" coil, or the current offering that sports the 5¾" coil, can work well. The stock 8" or 8X9, depending upon the particular model chosen, are OK search coils for open-area hunting or sites with a lower target count.

While Tesoro's do work pretty good in trashy sites with these coils, and certainly you can't argue against the well known quick-response/fast-recovery circuitry design of most Tesoro's, I personally favor a smaller-than-stock coil for most hunting. This is especially true if working highly trashed sites, places with a lot of iron, or getting in and around parking meters, under bleachers, in and around brush, and close to metal pipes & structures in tot lots. The 4" is a good coil, but really just a bit too small to be used all that regularly. The 5¾" is a great compromise, and I still contend there's nothing really wrong with the 7" concentric coil, either.

Monte]]> Monte Tesoro ForumWed, 18 Nov 2009 09:50:56 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092617,1092617#msg-1092617 Silver better with 12khz? (1 reply)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092617,1092617#msg-1092617 DigDug1228 Tesoro ForumTue, 17 Nov 2009 20:34:37 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092597,1092597#msg-1092597 What depth can i expect from the 4.0 and the 5.75 on a Silver Umax? (2 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092597,1092597#msg-1092597 DigDug1228 Tesoro ForumTue, 17 Nov 2009 23:27:07 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092578,1092578#msg-1092578 Been thinking about the Tejon lately... (6 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092578,1092578#msg-1092578 BigErn Tesoro ForumThu, 19 Nov 2009 17:55:52 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092124,1092124#msg-1092124 Compadre 5.75 vs Silver Umax 5.75, are they the Same in the tot lot? (2 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092124,1092124#msg-1092124Thanks]]> DigDug1228 Tesoro ForumTue, 17 Nov 2009 21:51:38 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092066,1092066#msg-1092066 Silver Umax 5.75 Coil, -Yes or NO- (11 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1092066,1092066#msg-1092066
Thanks]]> DigDug1228 Tesoro ForumThu, 19 Nov 2009 09:09:22 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091857,1091857#msg-1091857 YARD HUNTING WITH THE TEJON (2 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091857,1091857#msg-1091857My experience has been hunting old home sites that I have hunted with my partner a lot. Most surface trash has been removed and this is ideal conditions for the Tejon in my learning experience. In my yard I have recovered some coins that SURPRISED me, one being a buffalo nickle, several Wheaties and bullets. I have mostly used the 5.75 DD coil and love the power and depth this coil gets on the Tejon. I run the Sens at 6 and no higher and some times at 4. I have been power balancing the Tejon and it runs smooth with the Tejon chatter which gives a lot of information, the discrimination is excellent. and all of the coins I have found were next to iron.
Next stop was a old house that has a large side yard with a section that has produced and has been hunted in all directions with different detectors. this section is
about 20 feet by 10 feet. other coins have been found out side of this area, but this section has produced some nice coins and jewelry. I was impressed after I dug two
Mercury dimes in about 10 min. I was only digging soft deep signals, both coins to my best judgment were about 7 inches, maybe a little more as the grass was tall.
More coins were found, 4 Wheaties and a broach loaded with diamonds that got my heart beat going until I realized they were not real, but a nice find never the less
being the age of the broach. The Tejon is hot on brass and I did dig some bullets and other old house hold items that were keepers to me. The way the Tejon hit on silver did surprise me, I like the Tejon, and I just cant wait to take it out in the fields, but it sure can find the coins under the right conditions at old houses and its ability to detect keepers next to IRON is the best I have used.]]> D Wes Tesoro ForumMon, 16 Nov 2009 17:02:48 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091262,1091262#msg-1091262 comparison the tejon vs fisher 1270 (no replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091262,1091262#msg-1091262 amcjavelin Tesoro ForumSun, 15 Nov 2009 16:11:48 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091029,1091029#msg-1091029 Tejon does it again (4 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1091029,1091029#msg-1091029 jhettel Tesoro ForumWed, 18 Nov 2009 18:28:03 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090986,1090986#msg-1090986 Tally so far from the old cellar hole farm (10 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090986,1090986#msg-1090986
I've been pounding this old farm that is nothing but a bunch of walls back in the woods. So far me and the woman have pulled out quite a few interesting things. I really wish I had a camera but for now I will just list them.

1844 Montreal Half Penny
1846 Large Cent
1876 CC Seated Dime
No Date Shield Nickle
1890 Indian Head
1907 Indian Head

The mystery item is a tad smaller than a quarter but not a coin...more like a tag with a tiny hole in the top along the edge with a number 9 stamped on it. Have not a clue what it is.

Bunch of buttons and buckles, tools and other farm stuff.

The Conquistador uMax is doing its thing really well here.

HH]]> GaryF Tesoro ForumWed, 18 Nov 2009 21:27:29 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090878,1090878#msg-1090878 Tesoro Inca (3 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090878,1090878#msg-1090878This machine works very well and the All Metal mode is very sensitive to small gold chains, maybe even better than my LST.
I am in Australia and the Inca ground balances quite well in the moderatly high iron mineralisation in my back yard and has a nice steady threshold tone.
It located all of the targets with ease in my test patch that are down between 5 and 8 inches.
The Disc mode was a bit weak and did not ID the targets very well. Only the large coins were IDd OK..

This machine is still very capable of locating deep targets in the All Metal mode and can easily match some of my modern machines for depth in this mode in any ground where it can be ground balanced.

I am impressed with how well it responds to small gold and silver chains and we all know how difficult these items are to detect with even the most modern detectors. We have all heard the story how somebody tossed their big link gold chain on the round and their you beaut zillion dollar machine would not respond to it; Well I doubt that you would that trouble with this old Inca.

Adrian SS]]> Adrian SS Tesoro ForumSat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:42 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090846,1090846#msg-1090846 I might as well stay here (12 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090846,1090846#msg-1090846 SkiWhiz Tesoro ForumMon, 16 Nov 2009 10:10:28 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090821,1090821#msg-1090821 Is the Shadow X2 just a dressed up TesoroN/T (1 reply)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090821,1090821#msg-1090821(This message does not contain any text.)
]]> dirtdog Tesoro ForumSat, 14 Nov 2009 20:13:54 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090105,1090105#msg-1090105 Therover your NJ beach's are taking a pounding, are you ready...wish Me and My Wader were there....HHN/T (no replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1090105,1090105#msg-1090105(This message does not contain any text.)
]]> foiled again tab hunter Tesoro ForumFri, 13 Nov 2009 13:12:58 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1089354,1089354#msg-1089354 11-12-09 finds pic (4 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1089354,1089354#msg-1089354 dmckee17 Tesoro ForumThu, 12 Nov 2009 21:13:27 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088985,1088985#msg-1088985 Tejon has been a winner for me! (13 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088985,1088985#msg-1088985
Tesoro designed this detector as a Relic hunting machine, to be used primarily in the fields where civil war campsites and skirmishes have taken place. The high frequency (18 khz) is ideal for brass, copper, and lead to name a few. However, if used in public park settings, the Tejon may seem to be erratic due to the billions of pulltabs, and aluminum shards - as the 18 khz frequency is ideally tuned to that type of metal. I have also noticed, that when I get around high voltage power lines - it can become unstable, however, just turning down the sensitivity helps a lot. I have experienced electrical interference with other brands as well. There is one particular field that I hunt that has an underground power line. I cannot hunt within 10 to 20 yards of that power line with my Garrett GTA 1000 - as it becomes highly unstable.

As for depth capabilities with the Tejon - I must attest that this is the deepest detector that I have owned - even with the stock coil. The ground that I search in, is moderate to high mineral content with lots of clay content. The grounds that I hunt were civil war grounds - where soldiers had campfires - so the ground changes rapidly. I have to check my ground balance frequently, and believe this is the key to the Tejon. It has to be balanced correctly in order to get the depth. When I first purchased the Tejon - I took it back to some old hunting grounds covered by my DFX, and immediately started finding more mini balls, and the buck shot which was in the 8 inch range and deeper. I know that I had covered this area with the DFX thoroughly - it just was not as capable as the Tejon. A larger digging tool was also in order, as I was quickly wearing myself down with a trowel. There have been many signals that were so deep, that I had to give up after digging 20 + inches and could not dig any deeper

So, I write this post to give the Tesoro engineers Two Thumbs Up for the Tejon. It is a great relic hunting machine, and if you have been thinking about purchasing one, then I would encourage you to do so. Don't be discouraged by the negative feedback. Setup correctly, and used correctly, this machine is a real winner out in the field.

Bulletman]]> bulletman Tesoro ForumSun, 15 Nov 2009 22:49:03 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088955,1088955#msg-1088955 Silver Umax vs Compadre for jewlry wich is best? (4 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088955,1088955#msg-1088955 Trackerman Tesoro ForumSun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:02 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088640,1088640#msg-1088640 Tesoro Compadre w/ 8 inch brown search coil is a thumbs up! (8 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088640,1088640#msg-1088640 LINDABONITA Tesoro ForumThu, 12 Nov 2009 21:58:13 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088574,1088574#msg-1088574 Thanks to all the Veterans out there, Today and Everyday....TabN/T (2 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088574,1088574#msg-1088574(This message does not contain any text.)
]]> foiled again tab hunter Tesoro ForumWed, 11 Nov 2009 12:21:30 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088195,1088195#msg-1088195 cortes or deleon....which do you prefer (7 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088195,1088195#msg-1088195 joe dirt_1 Tesoro ForumFri, 13 Nov 2009 05:23:21 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088129,1088129#msg-1088129 :shrug: 11" Widescan Coil On The Tejon :shrug: (7 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088129,1088129#msg-1088129
HH, MO]]> morelic55 Tesoro ForumTue, 17 Nov 2009 14:25:56 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088025,1088025#msg-1088025 An Unbelievable Demonstration With Cortes (8 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1088025,1088025#msg-1088025 RLOH Tesoro ForumSun, 15 Nov 2009 20:42:06 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087857,1087857#msg-1087857 Good Job Tesoro :thumbup: (1 reply)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087857,1087857#msg-1087857 silversmith Tesoro ForumTue, 10 Nov 2009 17:40:55 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087839,1087839#msg-1087839 Cortes Wavy Threshold (9 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087839,1087839#msg-1087839 cannon Tesoro ForumSat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:14 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087783,1087783#msg-1087783 Good Monday in the woods (4 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087783,1087783#msg-1087783
Was a good day all in all...even tho my dog lost her brand new collar..which replaced the new collar she lost the time before losing the one I got her before that...Ect...lol

Wish I had some pics but oh well.

HH]]> GaryF Tesoro ForumThu, 12 Nov 2009 07:45:10 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087523,1087523#msg-1087523 this weekend's beach finds (6 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087523,1087523#msg-1087523 syclone0182 Tesoro ForumTue, 17 Nov 2009 21:30:22 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087328,1087328#msg-1087328 Finally!!!!!:detecting: (4 replies)http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1087328,1087328#msg-1087328 Tseeker Tesoro ForumTue, 10 Nov 2009 16:16:32 -0600