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<description> There is a company named Liquipel than can dip new smart phones and tablets in a chemical that will water proof just about any smaller electronics. I contacted them and here is what they said. 
Anthony,
We would be able to treat the board, (brains) if it is removable. The device as a whole is a bit to large for our current scale. If you would like to do so, simply complete the checkout process as though it were a phone &amp;amp; send the board in. Of course, you would want to make sure to protect &amp;amp; pad it in the package you send. 
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Thank You Greatly For Your Inquiry
Cost was under $70 if I remember right. I don't plan on using mine underwater but up here in the PNW it seems like your under water with the rain. 
I plan on sending in my Xterra &quot;brain&quot; when the warranty runs out in August. I would send my phone but I don't think I could go 3-4 days without it. Lol
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646772#msg-1646772</link><description><![CDATA[ From a non-emotional viewpoint, just coating the mainboard only will really do nothing. I'll assume the treatment works. You have electrical current going through multiple non-treated components. From a strictly electronic methodology of operation, the machine will ultimately fail/develop issues if exposed to excess moisture. Also, if moisture causes a electrical shorting/surging, it affects the internal pathways of the electrical components, so an external coating will not necessarily prevent damage to a component.]]></description>
<dc:creator>TerraDigger</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:44:55 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646712#msg-1646712</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>BADBAJA</strong><br/>
To be honest you just sound like sheeple. One person does not think it works or is skepticle and you all follow each other like lost sheep. Then you just regurgitate what other people said. Reread your posts. Open your mind. You can think on your own yOu know.<br /><br />Trust me I am in no way upset just stating what I see. Everyone wants new stuff but no one wants to try it. NOt me as soon as my warranty runs dry I am sending my xterra brain in. I am just trying to make mine more water resistant to this northwest weather. I never once said I would dunk my machine even though they say it's water proof.<br /><br />So I will let you go back to answering your same questions about which detector is best for silver, or which detector goes deepest since that keeps the sheep safe.</div></blockquote><br />I don't understand your blanket statement ("sheeple") as there was a variety of replies to you, quite clearly. To group that as sheeple, well that is judgemental. You mean you know and researched everyone who posted heres other posts that quickly and were able to make such a blanket statement? :thumbdown:<br /><br />I do believe the product works but also believe what Larry said (and others) that a detector is different and if you only send in the main board, what about all the other parts! Now, if everything is waterproofed, then that makes sense, but would probably be both cost prohibitive as well as a bit complicated for the average user.<br /><br />I have ordered quite a few coils that few have had just to try them out and then sell them at a loss at a later date - just to try them out and share the information. I quite like trying new things.<br /><br />EMS]]></description>
<dc:creator>earthmansurfer</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:49:20 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646704#msg-1646704</link><description><![CDATA[ Its been along time since I hunted the beach and I think it would help out a lot with mist issues. Hank. Good luck,]]></description>
<dc:creator>Hank68</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:33:23 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646703#msg-1646703</link><description><![CDATA[ Honestly you have some issues badbaja. I was talking 90s not 70s. One day when you grow up you'll have seen plenty of technology failures yourself and perhaps have learned a bit about polite discourse. As for me I think i've had enough of rude children.<br /><br />Oh, and if you think i'm an old fossil with no knowledge of technology I make my living in CAD/CAM where I watch lots of cutting edge technology that fails to live up to it's claims. Occasionally something does and we get a pleasant surprise.<br /><br />See ya...]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sailorman</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:31:51 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646692#msg-1646692</link><description><![CDATA[ I don't detect in the rain at all. Once It starts I usually high tail it inside. Very light mist is ok. I got this machine to have fun and in the rain or fighting the ocean does not sound like fun. Now the rewards the ocean swingers get are amazing. Back on topic.<br /><br />Also The perspiration here is horrible. Anyone that owns guns knows when you come inside from the cold into a warm environment your guns or detectors will sweat. I usually just wrap the weapons in a towelle or blanket. The detector I leave outside In garage which I don't like. If the coating is legit you wouldn't care if you seen it sweat, fall in a creek or get the occasional drizzle or downpour. I really hope it works is all.<br /><br />Not trying to turn this thread into a "what detector you should have bought" thread.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:09:15 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646682#msg-1646682</link><description><![CDATA[ I read it and do understand, I wasn't talking about a detector for underwater use, if you read mine which I'm sure you did,with the post above, I said high moisture enviroment not underwater, that's what I was referring to about the motor being in a moist place since it works off DC current, I wasn't belittling you or questioning you, try it out it may be a solution to salt water problems who knows.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Hank68</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:51:35 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646673#msg-1646673</link><description><![CDATA[ I wasn't gong to post on this, but changed my mind. Every time I read a post where someone wants to "waterproof" a land detector I wonder why go to that much effort rather than just getting a water detector in the first place? While you mention the problem with northwest rain, again I wonder why anyone would spend much time detecting in the rain? I've been caught in the rain a time or two when attending club sponsored, seeded hunts and got by with a make do plastic rain cover, but the experience generally is uncomfortable, wet, muddy and dirty. Certainly not my idea of fun detecting.<br /><br />If you do decide to go with this treatment, keep us posted as it'll be interesting to learn how it works out.<br />BB]]></description>
<dc:creator>BarberBill</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:47:34 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646641#msg-1646641</link><description><![CDATA[ I was nOt trying to lead anyone, just posting a product that that might be benificial.<br /><br />If you would have read my post( which I have a feeling you just read but must not have understood the meaning of I am not dunking my machine) that means I am NOT trying to submerge it. Do you understand that? But let's say I am prospecting. I accidentally fall in the creek. Most guys would have to immediately pull batteries and wait for it to dry and the day is done. No more detecting that day or possibly ever with that maching right? Are you starting to formulate a even a minute thought now? That maybe a $65 coating that might save your<br />$1000 plus machine?<br /><br />No need to buy a under water machine if I might only use it a few times if ever. Plus I have the options I want for the price I paid. I don't plan or never did plan on underwater detecting but it could happen and I would buy the appropriate machine.<br /><br />Where are any of these products you speak of? You guys are comparing old technology with new stuff talking about products from the 70s. Lol what a joke c'mon grandpas times have changed. They also used to think in the 70s that cigarettes were OK for you and that seatbelts don't save lives right? Are you still on the if it ain't broke don't fix it. Then this product is probably not for you or a lot of other products like video chat, remember in the 70s if you were to say video chat will be in the future they would have laughed at you. You might get older but technology will keep prevailing, it's what it does.<br /><br />About only being able to waterproof the board. You can replace plugs, buttons, LCD screens, wires, displays and meters. The brain on the other hand would be the the most expensive part to replace If even replaceable. By brain I mean the main circuit board or boards. So why would it be a big deal to resolder a plug if needed.<br /><br /><br />Again just putting this out there. I could care less if any of you use it and I am sure your detecting manufacturers are just hoping your high dollar machines hit the water cause then you would be buying another.<br /><br />It's dry here so time to swing Have a good day]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:08:18 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646150#msg-1646150</link><description><![CDATA[ It sounds similar to the coating that is on the board that is housed in a varible speed blower motor on the new A/C systems, because of the high moisture enviroment, the only problem is if the board malfunctions the makers just replace the board because its coated with silicone and can't desoldier out bad parts on the board. Certain appilications it works fine if the company is ok with changing boards out and not repairing them.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Hank68</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:29:45 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>I'm curious .............Badbaja</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1646042#msg-1646042</link><description><![CDATA[ You say for better usage in the Northwest.. Is this to help you hunt in the rain with out worry of having detector damage due to water leakage ??<br />......................................Have you ever considered buying a Underwater detector, or a wader ??<br /><br />If the treatment you speak of doesn't entail the total electronics, Knobs, etc.what do you have to gain by risking damage to your present unit ?????????? It still will not be water proof.<br /><br />Seems like some people with experience, and or knowledge with a product in the past know from first hand info it didn't work.... Even caused damage to their equipment.<br /><br />I know when we get an"Idea" in our head, and for one reason or another we embrace it whole hearted then try and share this "Marvelous" Idea with everyone we expect most to embrace what we thought with open arms and mind.............<br /><br />I think we should also be willing to accept they may "NOT".Due to experience, or not wanting to put a valued piece of equipment in possible jeopardy of being damaged using an unknown product.<br /><br />If you feel comfortable with the process you like DO IT !............ Don't get in a huff and accuse people of being sheep..... and saying one person leads them.. hey your one person trying to do the same thing........ lead them to getting their units water proofed......... Think about it fine Sir..............Have a nice day.If you do it Good Luck...... Hope it works..]]></description>
<dc:creator>Elton</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:32:35 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645995#msg-1645995</link><description><![CDATA[ Baaaaaaaahh]]></description>
<dc:creator>Thound</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:35:38 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645976#msg-1645976</link><description><![CDATA[ Another way to look at it is if the majority of answers point in the same direction, it could be the voice of experience talking and not just baaaaaaaad advise.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Larry (IL)</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:04:43 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645937#msg-1645937</link><description><![CDATA[ wow]]></description>
<dc:creator>blade310</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:10:40 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645931#msg-1645931</link><description><![CDATA[ Trust me I am not so touchy. You tell me how you feel and I am allowed to tell you the same.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:05:49 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645927#msg-1645927</link><description><![CDATA[ To be honest you just sound like sheeple. One person does not think it works or is skepticle and you all follow each other like lost sheep. Then you just regurgitate what other people said. Reread your posts. Open your mind. You can think on your own yOu know.<br /><br />Trust me I am in no way upset just stating what I see. Everyone wants new stuff but no one wants to try it. NOt me as soon as my warranty runs dry I am sending my xterra brain in. I am just trying to make mine more water resistant to this northwest weather. I never once said I would dunk my machine even though they say it's water proof.<br /><br />So I will let you go back to answering your same questions about which detector is best for silver, or which detector goes deepest since that keeps the sheep safe.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:01:48 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645822#msg-1645822</link><description><![CDATA[ You asked what we thought and now that we told you, you get your panties all in a twist. I'm sure it is a fine product and I don't think it is snake oil, I just don't think it would work on metal detectors like it does on cell phones. You would have to treat the entire detector to make it waterproof and even if they could do it, I think it would not work properly because of the different components involved but I am anxiously waiting to see your video on the water test this fall.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Larry (IL)</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:48:03 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645788#msg-1645788</link><description><![CDATA[ Don't get so touchy! It's just many of us have seen too many long term failures of similar highly aclaimed products. The stuff I mentioned earlier took the marine industry by storm. Even manufacturers jumped on the band wagon. It was raved about for about a year then the troubles started. Two years later, gone.<br /><br />It might be great but it might not, long term. Some of us are very cautious. Besides you can get water and salt intrusion along wire strands under insulation, some insulation is not water proof. Rotary pots won't be helped by this nor many switches. In the end it might help the board but not save you from a short somewhere else which kills the board anyway.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sailorman</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:02:43 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645768#msg-1645768</link><description><![CDATA[ I went to the website. I'm not saying snakeoil...........but long term is unproven yet especially in regards to how electrical components will fare from the coating material. In regards to a detector, all the comonents would need this treatment to be effective. Which the company is unable to do at this time. It would be similar to having a major leak in a tire fixed, but leaving a couple of small leaks unrepaired.]]></description>
<dc:creator>TerraDigger</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:11:18 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645765#msg-1645765</link><description><![CDATA[ Did you guys even go check the site or did just jump on the "snake oil " bandwagon?<br /><br />They are winning awards for this product. Like ces show in Vegas. I am sure People thought metal detectors were a "snake oil" at one time while the other guy was stacking silver. And I bet that "intern net" thing will never catch on either.......right.<br /><br />Never mind next time I find a product that might be useful I will just let it pass. I was just trying to make mine a little more water resistant. Good luck.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:54:56 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645380#msg-1645380</link><description><![CDATA[ Spend your money where you want but I still would not chance getting the detector wet. There is a lot more to a detector than the board............. connectors, potentiometers, display, switches, cables, speaker and more.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Larry (IL)</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:20:21 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645375#msg-1645375</link><description><![CDATA[ If it sounds too good to be true . It probably is !]]></description>
<dc:creator>mikeothmer</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:07:03 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645371#msg-1645371</link><description><![CDATA[ I'm always amazed at the amount of people still buying "snake oil". BEWARE!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Thound</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:49:13 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645370#msg-1645370</link><description><![CDATA[ My point was meant that sometimes new wonder products have issues that take time to show up. Just because someone treats their phone now doesn't mean they won't regret it in a year. Call me an old fart but i've watched many a miracle product fail over the years. So before I risk my expensive stuff I want to see a successful track record. Just hard experience talking!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sailorman</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:48:43 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645367#msg-1645367</link><description><![CDATA[ C-mon they are puttting this stuff in iPhones. The parts inside the phones are 10x smaller and probably more fragile then these detectors. I don't think they even use tunable caps anymore in new electronics any more.<br /><br />You might want to direct your questions towards them. I just though for anyone with a warranty about to expire or wanted something better than a silly Tupperware case.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:38:43 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645273#msg-1645273</link><description><![CDATA[ There was another product around about 20 years ago that made similar promises. Trouble was after 6 months or so it permanently detuned tunable capacitors. I'd watch them for at least a year and see if they're still around.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sailorman</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:51:35 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645216#msg-1645216</link><description><![CDATA[ what about the lcd and non=circuit board electronics/components?]]></description>
<dc:creator>TerraDigger</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:50:23 -0600</pubDate></item>
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<title>So you want to really waterproof your machine without using Tupperware?</title><link>http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,1645177,1645177#msg-1645177</link><description><![CDATA[ There is a company named Liquipel than can dip new smart phones and tablets in a chemical that will water proof just about any smaller electronics. I contacted them and here is what they said.<br /><br />Anthony,<br />We would be able to treat the board, (brains) if it is removable. The device as a whole is a bit to large for our current scale. If you would like to do so, simply complete the checkout process as though it were a phone &amp; send the board in. Of course, you would want to make sure to protect &amp; pad it in the package you send. <br />-- <br />Thank You Greatly For Your Inquiry<br /><br />Cost was under $70 if I remember right. I don't plan on using mine underwater but up here in the PNW it seems like your under water with the rain.<br /><br />I plan on sending in my Xterra "brain" when the warranty runs out in August. I would send my phone but I don't think I could go 3-4 days without it. Lol<br /><br />What you guys and gals think?]]></description>
<dc:creator>BADBAJA</dc:creator>
<category>Metal Detecting Forum</category><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:42:13 -0600</pubDate></item>
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