indian head vdi I have found indians with an older bounty hunter with no vdi. But not yet with my mxt pro. Just wondering what you all have been seeing for a number. Seen some charts, but wanted actual firsthand info.http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590175#msg-1590175Thu, 23 May 2013 19:36:44 -0500 Phorum 5.2.18 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592475#msg-1592475 Re: Indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592475#msg-1592475
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Larry (IL)
A Large cent should read almost like a quarter, it's hard to miss those if you get one under the coil. The "fatties" are the Flying Eagle and early Indian Head cents through 1864, those are the cents that will read/bounce into the 30's - 40's. They are thicker than the IH's that we are more familiar with and they had more nickle in the composition than the 1865 and on cents, that is why they read lower on the TID.

Thanks for the clarification, Larry. I thought the large cents should hit more like a quarter due to their size... I didn't realize there was a difference in thickness on those earlier coins...]]> triplehooked Whites MXT Users ForumWed, 30 Nov 2011 20:22:59 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592370#msg-1592370 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592370#msg-1592370 .224 magnum Whites MXT Users ForumWed, 30 Nov 2011 17:42:17 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592055#msg-1592055 Re: Indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592055#msg-1592055 Larry (IL) Whites MXT Users ForumWed, 30 Nov 2011 05:27:35 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592014#msg-1592014 Re: Indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1592014#msg-1592014 triplehooked Whites MXT Users ForumWed, 30 Nov 2011 00:13:46 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1591279#msg-1591279 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1591279#msg-1591279 firewxman Whites MXT Users ForumMon, 28 Nov 2011 21:34:42 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590949#msg-1590949 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590949#msg-1590949Although I haven't found a lot of those early coins, I have to agree the conditions, settings and equipment make all the differance in the world.
You just have to be willing to Dig Dig Dig...
After a bunch of holes you kind of get that 6th sense about the VID and TDI and the sound of the target...
Good luck

HH]]> HuntinDog Whites MXT Users ForumMon, 28 Nov 2011 13:10:10 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590710#msg-1590710 Metal make-up, position, depth, presence of any nearby metal, ground mineral conditions, thehttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590710#msg-1590710
Certainly a simple "air test" can reflect a different audio and visual response than what we might get if that same object is buried and the detector has to factor in the ground mineral signal as well. However, having found thousands of of Indian Head 1¢, even more 'wheat-back' 1¢ and both the 'fatty' Flying Eagle and early Indian Head 1¢, I can give you my very simple answer based on in-the-field experience.

The bulk of my coin finds came during my more active detesting time when coin quantities were unmatched by anything, anywhere, today so they were made when I used a wide assortment of non-Target ID models. Then, since the introduction of visual Target ID, I have found them using models from Teknetics, Garrett, Bounty Hunter, Fisher, Compass, Minelab, Tesoro, other brands .... and White's models. In the past three months I have used an assortment of about 20 Indian Head, 25 early 'wheat-back', and both a Flying Eagle and 2 'fat' Indian Head 1¢ to work up some out-of-sight test specimens in order to help hobbyists learn what to be prepared for when hunting old ghost towns, homesteads, military encampments, and all sorts of old-use sites.

Due to all of the variables mentioned above and my experiences at many sites in many US states, I found long ago that the 'average' Indian head 1¢ will produce a TID and numeric VDI read-out that is very similar to the modern US Zinc 1¢. Most of the early 'wheat-back' 1¢ from 1909 through ± 1920 will also fall in a very similar visual response range as the modern US Zinc 1¢. There have been some, but percentages are small, that might register a little higher so as to be closer to, or the same as, a more modern copper 1¢ or clad 10¢ coin.

All of the 'fat' type small 1¢ coins, Flying Eagle and Indian Head varieties, will respond with a lower-than-Zinc 1¢ reading. As most of us have found, even the modern Zinc 1¢ coins can sometimes produce a terrible signal due to many variables, including wear and damage from deterioration caused my the crappy metal used to make them. Keep that in mind because all the variables mentioned above can alter or shift the audio and/or visual TID and VDI readings.

There is no such thing as a 'perfect' detector. More-so, there is absolutely no 'perfect' visual display reading to always guarantee a proper time to dig, or non-dig, a located target. You have a very good detector in the MXT Pro. Matter of fact, it is one of my favorites being produced today and in 'average' hunting environments it produces reasonably reliable visual information. That said, I will also tell you that the sites I select to search tend to me rather challenging in the way of surface interference from brush or building rubble or renovation work, and the iron trash levels are usually not what I might consider to be 'average.' Really, I don't think there is a proper definition of 'average' that would apply to us all other than a simple "air test" without any mentioned variables.

Sorry to be so lengthy. My computer died the night before Thanksgiving and I am trying to learn my new laptop. I need practice. :bouncy:

Monte]]> Monte Whites MXT Users ForumMon, 28 Nov 2011 00:13:43 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590527#msg-1590527 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590527#msg-1590527 .224 magnum Whites MXT Users ForumSun, 27 Nov 2011 18:29:21 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590522#msg-1590522 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590522#msg-1590522 Larry (IL) Whites MXT Users ForumSun, 27 Nov 2011 18:19:52 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590516#msg-1590516 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590516#msg-1590516 JohninNC Whites MXT Users ForumSun, 27 Nov 2011 18:14:01 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590218#msg-1590218 Re: indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590218#msg-1590218 Nancy-IL Whites MXT Users ForumSun, 27 Nov 2011 09:27:55 -0600 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590175#msg-1590175 indian head vdihttp://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1590175,1590175#msg-1590175 .224 magnum Whites MXT Users ForumSun, 27 Nov 2011 08:05:11 -0600