Hello Gary. Nice site and one that I will get involved in. I started with an Olympus D600-L for about a year and have moved to the C3030Z. This is an awesome camera full of features. I have upgraded to a 64-MB chip, but even with this I need additional storage. Olympus (after complaining to them) has told me that a 128-MB chip is being developed. That will end my storage problems, as I like to work with uncompressed TIFF files. Yes, they are big files, but they are what I need for professional images I need for my marketing position at my company. The ultimate solution to image storage (for me) is an Iomega 650 CD-RW external drive. I like external USB capable devices as I can use them on my PC or take them on trips for my laptop. Everything is USB capable so storage is a snap. JPEG files are fine for quick posting on the internet, but once you compress a file, and reopen it for use, you loose a lot of the quality. And the more you work with it the worse it gets. A TIFF file on the other hand is uncompressed and looses nothing in terms of quality. As a side note on the C3030, I am one of the unfortunate who purchased the $450 FL40 Flash unit. What you need to make it work is the cord/bracket (both of special dedicated design for the C3030) and which didnt become available until 3 weeks ago. If you need the $100 combo (and I do for use in hockey photography, place your order with a reputable distributor and wait. They are in the pipeline, but its first-come-first-serve.http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147291#msg-147291Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:32 -0500 Phorum 5.2.18 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147337#msg-147337 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147337#msg-147337But the bottom line is having spent $1500 what is another $100 expecially when it works. It just irks me, I guess. But then that would be a personal problem. I can say that the entire package when assembled is much smaller than that of my Minolta SLR w/strobe and handle. And that would be a good thing.]]> Carl Digital Photography ForumMon, 28 Aug 2000 10:12:18 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147317#msg-147317 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147317#msg-147317 Carl Digital Photography ForumWed, 23 Aug 2000 15:01:39 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147307#msg-147307 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147307#msg-147307 Guvner.. Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 18:14:40 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147306#msg-147306 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147306#msg-147306We live in Norway and had, by the way, a very successful hockey tour with my son's team back in 97, where we played several matches against the best teams in Florida ( won them all ) and even got to play in between periods in a NHL match between Florida Panthers and Toronto M.L....A memory for life for all of the players ( and us parents ).
Chris..]]> ChrisB Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 14:32:40 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147304#msg-147304 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147304#msg-147304

Good hunting... Guvner..
]]> Guvner.. Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 12:32:32 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147303#msg-147303 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147303#msg-147303 Carl Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 11:02:50 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147300#msg-147300 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147300#msg-147300

Thanks for all the input around here... Guvner..
]]> Guvner.. Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 08:43:40 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147299#msg-147299 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147299#msg-147299Well, as I said in an earlier post I have a $499 flash and a $1000 camera, but cant use them together yet.
Olympus let the camera out of the bag (I got mine 3 weeks before the announced date) but the accessories were slow to come online which is typical of a lot of high end products. Only within the past 3-1/2 weeks did the two items I need become available in this country: FL-BK01 Dedicated flash bracket and the Exclusive bracket cable. The bad news is that while I have my items on order ($100 for the pair) Olympus is filling the orders for the large distributors first. I am on back order, Hockey season is only a month away and if they dont arrive, I am going to be upset (I like being polite early in the morning)!
Yes, you can use other flash units, but the FL40 and C3030 are interlinked to work as a unit (nothing like dual flash capability).
I have now used this camera on several trips for doing commercial work and had 0 problems. Menu is easy, camera has great balance. I have added a wide angle lens, filters, extra chips (I have a 16, 32, and 64MB) for the TIFF files I need.
The 128MB is in development. Olympus did not peg a date or a price, but my guess is next year @ $200-250; just a swag.
And while there are a ton of settings, you basically set them up once for your style and then modify to conditions..this is cutting edge in this level of camera. Yes there are a lot of other styles out there, but use the C3030 as a bench mark and see what features the others lack. But only if you are willing to sprint to the $900 and beyond price level.]]> Carl Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 06:55:17 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147298#msg-147298 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147298#msg-147298You should save the original JPEG files as the "master" copies. There is no point in converting them to TIFF. When you read the JPEG master files and edit them, you should save the edited version in a new file with lossless compression (e.g.TIFF) if you think you might do further editing, because repeated saves to JPEG format will result in accumulated loss of quality. By all means save to JPEG when you have finally got the image as you want it, or save to TIFF.
The difference is very small. You will be using jpeg in the highest quality setting. Tif isn't worth the memory space and certainly not the extra SAVE-onto-memory time.
No advantage there at all. The best solution to lessen artifact problems wiuld be to open the JPEG, process it, then save it as a TIFF. JPEG artifacts only occur when saving a JPEG file, so once it is saved in the camera as a JPEG the 'damage' is done. Not saving it again as a JPEG would be the solution.
The question is almost irrelevant, because you simply can't use TIFF on an ongoing basis with a consumer digital camera as the camera will be stuck for 30-35 seconds for each shot. That means that for practical purposes you better forget about TIFF. Besides - at least on my camera - there is virtually no difference between SHQ and TIFF.
No immediately visible difference, you meant to say. That's because JPEG tries to remove only the information in the image which is not usually preceiveable. However, if you change the display paramters or process the image, the differences may become very clearly visible. So whether to use JPEG or TIFF is mostly a question of what you intended to do with the images afterwards. If you want to leave them largely unaltered, the visible difference between low-copmression JPEG and TIFF is not worth the extra memory and time, I fully agree.]]> Jeff K Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 00:40:09 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147297#msg-147297 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147297#msg-147297 Jeff K Digital Photography ForumTue, 22 Aug 2000 00:03:45 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147296#msg-147296 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147296#msg-147296Any resaving in the jpeg format of the lower levels gives immediate and often severe degradation. However if you take the original and save it as a .tiff or .mix or .psd or some other non-compressed format there should be little "further" degradation. Make graphic imaging changes to a copy of this and save in the uncompressed format to protect the original and your modified image.
As Carl said it's best to start with the best image and use an optimizer to give you a smaller jpeg when you want to use it on the Internet. If you're saving your images, save them in an uncompressed format.
Not sure if this helps ... good luck ... Gord.]]> Gord SW Ont Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 20:53:30 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147295#msg-147295 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147295#msg-147295Did you by the way get more spec. info on the 128 MB SM Card...time/price?
I am still learning, having only used it for 2 days, but it sure seems to be a super camera!!!
ChrisB]]> ChrisB Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 17:01:10 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147294#msg-147294 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147294#msg-147294Another take is the software such as Picture It 2000 which allows you to save as a .MIX and this protects the file until you manipulate it and save as some other format. So to start, open your software and see what your choices are and you may be pleasantly surprised. But for questions on your .JPEG images, why not give the old Help menu a try.]]> Carl Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 12:32:04 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147293#msg-147293 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147293#msg-147293If so, can you open it and save it as a new file without damaging the original?
Thanks... Guvner..]]> Guvner.. Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 10:06:08 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147292#msg-147292 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147292#msg-147292I have also been looking at the C2500L with lustful eyes. What is your take on that one? Looks like the prices are creeping under $1000 in some places. They tend to strip out the 32 meg card, charger and power cord so beware. But if you already have the things they are stripping out it can offer you a way into a nice camera.
Thanks,
Gary]]> Guvner.. Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 09:57:10 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147291#msg-147291 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?36,147291,147291#msg-147291I started with an Olympus D600-L for about a year and have moved to the C3030Z. This is an awesome camera full of features. I have upgraded to a 64-MB chip, but even with this I need additional storage. Olympus (after complaining to them) has told me that a 128-MB chip is being developed. That will end my storage problems, as I like to work with uncompressed TIFF files. Yes, they are big files, but they are what I need for professional images I need for my marketing position at my company.
The ultimate solution to image storage (for me) is an Iomega 650 CD-RW external drive. I like external USB capable devices as I can use them on my PC or take them on trips for my laptop. Everything is USB capable so storage is a snap.
JPEG files are fine for quick posting on the internet, but once you compress a file, and reopen it for use, you loose a lot of the quality. And the more you work with it the worse it gets. A TIFF file on the other hand is uncompressed and looses nothing in terms of quality.
As a side note on the C3030, I am one of the unfortunate who purchased the $450 FL40 Flash unit. What you need to make it work is the cord/bracket (both of special dedicated design for the C3030) and which didnt become available until 3 weeks ago.
If you need the $100 combo (and I do for use in hockey photography, place your order with a reputable distributor and wait. They are in the pipeline, but its first-come-first-serve.]]> Carl Digital Photography ForumMon, 21 Aug 2000 06:59:01 -0500