Dedicated to Erik and his sounds of detecting... Enough said.. http://www.findmall.com/list.php?67Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:42:12 -0600 Phorum 5.2-dev http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,1057073,1057073#msg-1057073 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,1057073,1057073#msg-1057073


]]> JJ Erik's Audio WorldThu, 15 Oct 2009 01:00:50 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,1000797,1000797#msg-1000797 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,1000797,1000797#msg-1000797
John

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So any V3 users out there that can elaborate?]]> Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldSat, 04 Jul 2009 10:05:17 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,989773,989773#msg-989773 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,989773,989773#msg-989773(This message does not contain any text.)
]]> detectordepot.com Erik's Audio WorldTue, 16 Jun 2009 20:16:45 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,984140,984140#msg-984140 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,984140,984140#msg-984140
I know Tony Diana on his CD mentions it to a degree.

After several hours of detecting, weather with the E-trac or Excalibur, I find that my hearing becomes less sharp. In other words, I miss some signals.

I'm not sure if it is because of being tired and over doing it. All I know is that when I am out especially with the Excalibur, I will after about 6 hours start to miss tell tale signals.

It also gets to a point that I get a slight ringing in my ears. I have excellent hearing and can hear a flea fart at over a mile. I am never tired of detecting and can go on for hour after hour. All my headphones are top of the line and I do not over do the volume.

Maybe I am just getting older ?

Or is there a certain time that I should just say...enough for today ?

How long can you go without losing the edge ?]]> Steve from Ohio Erik's Audio WorldTue, 09 Jun 2009 11:26:40 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,976700,976700#msg-976700 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,976700,976700#msg-976700 Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldSun, 19 Jul 2009 21:26:41 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,974861,974861#msg-974861 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,974861,974861#msg-974861 Detectorguru Erik's Audio WorldSun, 24 May 2009 14:49:59 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972969,972969#msg-972969 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972969,972969#msg-972969 Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldFri, 22 May 2009 01:59:15 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972954,972954#msg-972954 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972954,972954#msg-972954
remembered the ear buds in the glove box. Wow, what a difference they made. I usually run my volume on my SE at ten and have the Sun Ray and the Rats turned all the

way up to max volume. And my threshold on the Sun Rays I run at 7 and on the Rats 8 (which is why I always use my Sun Rays) Well with the ear buds I had to actually

turn my volume down on my SE for the very first time since the day I bought it:surprised:. Instead of 10 for volume I only had to run at 6, and my threshold was perfectly

audible at 6 and 7-(when the trains went by). That is a huge difference. Down side is: the little crappy wire is going to short probably soon, every time you stand up after

digging the target you step on it, the wire isn't very long, and the buds them selves keep coming out of my ears because I pulled on the wire by accident. I think most of

these problems could be resolved with alligator clips.:detecting:]]> digitrich Erik's Audio WorldSat, 04 Jul 2009 12:38:50 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972922,972922#msg-972922 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,972922,972922#msg-972922 Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldFri, 14 Aug 2009 18:25:38 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971977,971977#msg-971977 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971977,971977#msg-971977 grumpyolman Erik's Audio WorldMon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:16 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971829,971829#msg-971829 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971829,971829#msg-971829A few graphs showing how tone a timber and pitch and all those things we are all talking about work.
A guide line for those that may not know some of the terms used in this forum and what they are applied to.]]> rbholt80 Erik's Audio WorldTue, 19 May 2009 10:09:48 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971815,971815#msg-971815 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,971815,971815#msg-971815
Erik]]> Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldMon, 18 May 2009 23:49:16 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,970711,970711#msg-970711 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,970711,970711#msg-970711 Ray-Mo. Erik's Audio WorldSun, 24 May 2009 14:49:17 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,969599,969599#msg-969599 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,969599,969599#msg-969599
I was wondering if people who are not able to hear as well as others should not expect too much when metal detecting.

A friend of mine is older and his hearing is not as good as it once was. He was in Vietnam and his hearing is pretty bad. He just started metal detecting this year. The slight sound variations and are impossible for him to hear. Even with an E-trac, he cannot hear some of the sounds. So he misses some good targets. Yeah, we can adjust the E-trac to fit him better when it comes to sound, but he still has a hard time. Even with his hearing aid....most sounds are really tough for him.

I find it amazing that he cannot hear some of the sounds that I hear so well.

Might it be wise to advise anyone who has a hard time hearing to find another hobby? He is getting a bit discouraged.]]> Steve from Ohio Erik's Audio WorldSat, 24 Oct 2009 11:33:59 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,969189,969189#msg-969189 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,969189,969189#msg-969189The Black Widows seem like I am listening in a tunnel, still havent bonded with that pair. The stock Koss seemed to work well untill the cord gave out. Does anyone use a pre amplifier or audio booster?

Thanx!

Vern]]> drwhou02 Erik's Audio WorldFri, 15 May 2009 00:01:05 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968799,968799#msg-968799 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968799,968799#msg-968799
Another one of interest: On excalibur, three anomaly signals tend to give an increase and sudden drop in pitch during the sustain. Thus when it makes that particular sound it is usually a cellphone, a matchbox car and possibly a watch. Most of the time it is a matchbox car. On the ear training CD there was an example of an anomaly signal that displayed this sound and it was a Treo Cellphone.

So again I am curious if there are trends you have noticed with your respective machines?

HH]]> Electro Erik's Audio WorldFri, 15 May 2009 00:03:07 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968768,968768#msg-968768 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968768,968768#msg-968768
What makes these detectors different? Or are they?

Some detectors I see map the TID to a pitch and give that pitch back, but to me that isn't more info, its just the info you can see on the screen in audio format.

So which detectors are similar in that they "give up" the audio info, and not artificially (4 beep, multi-beep style)?]]> harpsoft Erik's Audio WorldFri, 15 May 2009 22:55:31 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968242,968242#msg-968242 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,968242,968242#msg-968242 grumpyolman Erik's Audio WorldWed, 13 May 2009 16:22:38 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967707,967707#msg-967707 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967707,967707#msg-967707 Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldWed, 13 May 2009 20:41:38 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967351,967351#msg-967351 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967351,967351#msg-967351
The CD can be ordered directly through the page or through our forum sponsor KellyCo (please support our forum sponsors whenever possible).

This is an excellent CD even if you don't own an Excal, but just want to understand the concept of ear training better.

http://www.myspace.com/betfe]]> Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldMon, 11 May 2009 21:48:53 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967219,967219#msg-967219 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,967219,967219#msg-967219Ear training is nothing new. (It is new to the detector world) Colleges teaching music have classes that are totally created to teach 'Ear Training.' It's so important to musicians that it is now taught complete with text and powerful CDs with which to practice. Several years ago it was thought you either had a good ear or you didn't. A lot of talented musicians can't read a score to save their lives. But, they can play with any group or Orchestra. One that comes to mind is Chet Atkins. Saw him play with some philharmonic group and I know he can't read.
The people in the music education community learned this and now teach it. Just like mathematics has symbols and numbers that help the student calcualte what needs to be done to solve the problem, there are similar concepts in sound analysis, if you learn them, that will give you the tools to be a better discriminator than the discriminator built into your detector. There are things such as attack pitch, sustain, release and a lot more. In math most know what "+", "-" etc. mean and how to decipher what to do. If you know what attack, sustain, etc, mean and where they enter into the sound you hear from the detector you can decipher more clearly what the detector is telling you.
If you want to you can dig 1000 holes an maybe learn to associate a particular sound to a particular object, but if you want to go a different route and expedite your ability to discriminate your detectors sounds, get this CD and study it as hard as you did Andy's book.
Nope! I dont' work for the creator of this CD. I didn't know his name until I saw it on the CD. If you were my best detcting friend, I would insist you get that CD and study it. That's the best endorsement I can give. Regards...Jim]]> grumpyolman Erik's Audio WorldThu, 14 May 2009 09:59:47 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966913,966913#msg-966913 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966913,966913#msg-966913 Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldMon, 11 May 2009 14:27:16 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966799,966799#msg-966799 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966799,966799#msg-966799
I loved the flute like sound that my Explorer had on silver but I am having a little harder time adjusting the audio on the E-trac to get closer to the sound that I love so much.

A few other questions about this forum....will there be a way to download wave or MP3 files so that we can compare settings to sounds?

I like the idea for this forum because for me at least, Audio is the way I hunt with numbers and graphs as icing on the cake.]]> Steve from Ohio Erik's Audio WorldMon, 13 Jul 2009 16:27:57 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966642,966642#msg-966642 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966642,966642#msg-966642I'd love to get out some more with the Explorer, but have been held back due to family commitments. Hopefully next week end will be good and I can learn some more about this feature as it's just blown me away with it's effectiveness.
I almost forgot to mention; I found that turning fast on seems to help fine tune the sound so as to make it easier to distinguish targets.
It would be interesting to hear what others have discovered with this feature.
Mick Evans.]]> Mick in Dubbo Erik's Audio WorldMon, 18 May 2009 20:50:58 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966590,966590#msg-966590 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966590,966590#msg-966590
I welcome any members to join in this discussion (pro or con) with facts, ideas, and interesting debate. :thumbup:]]> Erik in NJ Erik's Audio WorldWed, 13 May 2009 22:34:52 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966375,966375#msg-966375 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,966375,966375#msg-966375
My brother....there is no magic pill for metal detecting. It ain't no spectators sport. Nothing replaces hard work and determination..........learn the machine and make your own luck!!!!

Brad]]> dreamweaver43 Erik's Audio WorldMon, 11 May 2009 16:14:27 -0500 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,964159,964159#msg-964159 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?67,964159,964159#msg-964159If these people are happy with their place of growth and understanding thats great but please please move out of the way for those who want to further their education!
My main reason I am here is for learning, I want to master my machine like Cain in KUNGFU :>)
For those narrow minded people who say sound cannot be taught with sound ..are you people for real?????
The very people who say this have taught themselves to hear repeatable sounds from their very own machines.
So please explain to me what the difference is hearing a accurate CD example vs your machine?
Maybe its the candy in the hole at the end of each good tone these people need for reinforcement?
All I know to sum things up we need every tool available to our disposal to suck each and every good target from the earth then I will be satisfied knowing our tool box was full ! Untill then bring on the TOOLS.]]> drwhou02 Erik's Audio WorldMon, 11 May 2009 20:05:23 -0500