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Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: juit
Date: September 22, 2017 10:02PM
I can only take 1 detector to the beach, i have a nokta relic, whites m6, fisher cz5 & minelab 705

I use them in that order too

Going to do some wet sand dry sand hunt, on the way back i plan to do a park or 2
What do you guys recomend meto take?



Minelab 705
Nokta relic
Fisher CZ5
Whites m6

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Re: Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: juit
Date: September 22, 2017 10:06PM
Anyone used the relic in cog mode? What settings or tips



Minelab 705
Nokta relic
Fisher CZ5
Whites m6

I have had no hesitation using the FORS Relic for Beach Hunting.
Posted by: Monte
Date: September 23, 2017 08:41AM
And, I have usually had very satisfactory results based upon the amount and type of 'beach' I hunted and average uses. That said, I will also clarify that I don't swim so I don't dive. Also, with my mobility limitations the past thirty-six years I've usually not waded out as far as I used to since my detectors haven't been waterproof and, at times, I tend to stumble or drop things.

So, as you might guess, a truly waterproof, submersible detector is on my list as the next detector next to be added to my detector arsenal. I'll also clarify here that I have water/beach hunted in some of the saltiest beach waters imaginable, and also in some very salt water associated with very mineralized ground and I need to have all the functional performance I usually demand of a detector. Therefore, it isn't going to make the cut simply because it can get wet. It needs to be based on a proven, reliable, performance-based circuitry design that provides in-the-field (or in-the-water) results like I get with my current Regular-Use Detector Team.


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juit
I can only take 1 detector to the beach, i have a nokta relic, whites m6, fisher cz5 & minelab 705

I use them in that order too
I those four detectors were all that I owned, then the Nokta Relic would most definitely be the first detector I would grab to get things done almost anywhere ... including beach work. I currently have 3 Relic units in my working battery, and I have owned a few White's M6 in the past, three or four Fisher CZ5's (my favorite of the CZ series) and had the early Minelab X-Terra 70 and have used the 705.

I would part with the 705 due to the weaknesses and quirks I know it has, and for me I'd also part with the older technology CZ5. Yes, I know their strengths, but my aging and achy body doesn't care for the top-heavy physical design, plus I like to have more functional control features, simple to access and keep on hunting, and would consider saving the $$$ from those two to put towards a waterproof detector in the near future. That is, if a good percentage of your detecting is beach hunting, river hunting, or just spending wet seasonal months enduring a lot of rain.


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juit
Going to do some wet sand dry sand hunt, on the way back i plan to do a park or 2
What do you guys recomend meto take?
Are you referring to a wet-salt beach area, coastal or inland, or is your beach hunting going to be in freshwater lakes and streams?

Will this all be an open area to search or will you be dealing with obstructions on the beach and/or working gathering 'party' (trashy) sites as well?

Most of the beach hunting I do is at freshwater locations that are also quite mineralized. My main reason to select beaches to hunt is because they are high-use areas and more likely to have desired target losses, especially gold and silver jewelry. That's one reason I like to use my 19 kHz FORS Relic although my 15 kHz FORS CoRe does fine as well as my 5/14/20 kHz Impact. On the Relic, in very wide-open areas I might work the standard 7X11 DD coil, but often I grab my Relic with the 5½X10 Concentric coil attached, When I know there can be some smaller and trashier environments I will put the round 5" DD to work to better handle the masking trash.

When you get back home, be sure top post the results of your detecting jaunt, both on the beaches and park settings.

Monte



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My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta:
Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe (Using mainly the 'OOR', 5", 4X7½, 5X9½ open-frame DD's or 7" Concentric coils as needed. Other coils on-hand.)
Tesoro:
Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave (With either a 6" or 7" Concentric coil in use, or maybe 8X11 DD on the Vaquero.)

Other Specialty Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet'.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

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Re: Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: Flbchbm
Date: September 23, 2017 08:43AM
I have the Core and it works very well on the beach in COG mode. You will have to adjust all your settings based on the beach to achieve the quietness you desire. My Core is so quiet on my saltwater beach that I have to periodicly sweep some metal just to be sure it is still working. However, you will get deeper targets in the wet sand with the CZ5, based on what I have read. Around here, the beaches are hit so hard that the deeper you can detect, the better. That is why I use a PI detector on the beach.



Brian

Tesoro Sand Shark
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXSport
Whites TDI Pulsescan

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Re: I have had no hesitation using the FORS Relic for Beach Hunting.
Posted by: juit
Date: September 23, 2017 08:48AM
Will do, ive taken the cz5 to that beach and grab a lot of stuff but im gonna try to do live digs and give it a chance just to see if its good on conductive water sand



Minelab 705
Nokta relic
Fisher CZ5
Whites m6

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Re: Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: juit
Date: September 23, 2017 08:49AM
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Flbchbm
I have the Core and it works very well on the beach in COG mode. You will have to adjust all your settings based on the beach to achieve the quietness you desire. My Core is so quiet on my saltwater beach that I have to periodicly sweep some metal just to be sure it is still working. However, you will get deeper targets in the wet sand with the CZ5, based on what I have read. Around here, the beaches are hit so hard that the deeper you can detect, the better. That is why I use a PI detector on the beach.

What are your beach settings?



Minelab 705
Nokta relic
Fisher CZ5
Whites m6

Re: Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: Flbchbm
Date: September 23, 2017 09:15AM
It has been a while, so it would be a guess to say. The main thing is to be in COG, ground balance and then adjust your sensitivity as high as you can without getting a lot of falsing. Every beach will be different, and even within the beach will be different based on how wet the sand is, minerals in the sand, etc...You will probably have to adjust your sensitivity as you move up and down the beach (further from and closer to the water). Assuming you are at a saltwater beach. As I remember, once you get a ground balance you should be able to change modes. That being the case, you will get a little more depth in GEN mode. Oh, and the TID numbers will be way off in the wet sand, so be careful about ignoring targets until you figure out what the detector is telling you. (Dig it all isn't a bad way to go) Also, please refill all your holes. I know it's a beach, but it makes us all look bad when one person leaves a moon-cratered beach behind......

Hope you find great stuff!



Brian

Tesoro Sand Shark
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXSport
Whites TDI Pulsescan

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Re: Relic on beach? Should i take it?
Posted by: juit
Date: September 23, 2017 02:52PM
why not both? XD
LOL







Minelab 705
Nokta relic
Fisher CZ5
Whites m6



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2017 02:52PM by juit.


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