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CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: dfmike
Date: November 05, 2017 03:40PM
I've been waiting for more clement weather to finally go out with the CoRe and the big 13 X 15 coil on a local beach. It was the first time I used the machine on sand, the first time I tried DI2 with it and the first time I used the big coil I acquired lately. I had trouble getting used to DI2 initially because I kept getting EMI/falsing with the default frequency. I dropped the sensitivity to 60 but it still was not quiet enough. After testing all the frequencies, F1 made it quiet down to very acceptable levels and allowed me to up the sensitivity to 70 and I left it there for the next few hours. Why did I put it in DI2 when I always hunt in DI3 ? Simply because at the beach, I pick up everything past iron so I didn't want the high conductor tone. In that manner the detector behaves much like my F19.

The big coil took some time to get used to. I didn't realize how huge it is until I actually started swinging it. It tips the balance on the CoRe in a way that can put some strain on the elbow joint after a long time. It's not a coil I would use as a general tool. I would be great in open fields or beaches that have less trash. Despite this, It separates surprisingly well and covers a lot of ground in little time.

No silver and no gold this time but a few trinkets and enough clad to keep things interesting. I'm always surprised at the shear number of pull tabs that I get. It's gold ring territory. Either people detect them and just throw them back on the sand or they cherry pick the high conductors because they don't have the patience to collect aluminum trash. I must have picked up about 60 pull tabs (new style mostly but older ones too) and a dozen bottle caps. The jewelry pictured is all bling but I'm unsure about the thin ring. There is nothing written inside. It's got kind of a copper bronze tone to it and it's not magnetic. The small cars are a high performance Benz, Chrysler 300, Chevy Camaro and an Acura NSX. The plastic soldier was of course an eyeball find...

Settings: sensitivity 70, DI2, freq 1, masking 39



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2017 03:51PM by dfmike.




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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: Sven
Date: November 05, 2017 05:22PM
Good start with the large coil. Bad weather here, going down hill after tonight.



Quest Pro & Q40, Nokta Impact
Self built Mirage Pi's --- they work great in trashy areas!!

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: dfmike
Date: November 05, 2017 05:30PM
Here as well. I'm getting out every time I have a chance. Temps are supposed to go down below freezing by the end of the week. :(



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5

Congrats on the beach finds with the FORS CoRe. :clapping:
Posted by: Monte
Date: November 06, 2017 03:21PM
While I really enjoy my Impact as well as my Relic units and other makes and models in my inventory, I have a special fondness for the FORS CoRe. Simple yet Functional, and it provides all the performance a person might want. I compare all other detectors I own or evaluate against my CoRe.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7 (coming soon)

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet' and White's Pro Star.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: dfmike
Date: November 06, 2017 07:22PM
You've said it Monte: Simple yet functional. I could add powerful as well. Raw is another word that comes to mind when I'm using it. It's a detector with no fluff, no frills no bling. It just gets the work done.

It's quite unique in the way it looks with that chunk of a box under the forearm and that awesomely comfortable and functional handle. Awkward at first but it grows on you. Not a lot of people have one around these parts. It seems to be Garrett country. That's fine by me.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2017 07:24PM by dfmike.

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: cladcanada
Date: November 07, 2017 01:19AM
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dfmike
You've said it Monte: Simple yet functional. I could add powerful as well. Raw is another word that comes to mind when I'm using it. It's a detector with no fluff, no frills no bling. It just gets the work done.

It's quite unique in the way it looks with that chunk of a box under the forearm and that awesomely comfortable and functional handle. Awkward at first but it grows on you. Not a lot of people have one around these parts. It seems to be Garrett country. That's fine by me.

def garrett country here to out west, and i don't mind following them .

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: cladcanada
Date: November 07, 2017 12:42PM
I have been offered a deal on a core pro pack ..I'm glad to see it hits on our canadian clad. What are the vdi's and tones. Do the vdi's bounce ? Would you think the big coil work on sports fields?
Thx !

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: dfmike
Date: November 07, 2017 08:16PM
cladcanada, I wish I could get an Impact just to see for myself if there is any difference in the way it can hunt our evil clad compared to the CoRe. Judging by Sven's awesome clad count with the Impact, I would think it has a definite edge on the CoRe. Just sayin' in case you are in the market for either one. The tones and VDI on Canadian clad with the CoRe vary a lot. On edge or on an angle, it might not even peep if you set your masking high enough to rule out iron signals. When the coin is flat, it usually signals the target with a mix of high and mid tones with an occasional iron grunt when you circle around the coin. I still consider myself a newbie with the CoRe and I will get better with time as far as getting our steel core clad is concerned.

The VDI does bounce but it seems to bounce less on toonies and loonies than on recent nickels, dimes and quarters. I'm not sure why but it must have something to do with composition and/or size.

The big coil would work anywhere but if your sports fields are ridden with trash, you would be better served with just about any other coil. To me the big coil has 2 main points of interest. It covers a lot of ground in very little time and it does go deeper than any other Nokta coil. If ultimate depth is not needed and you want to separate the good stuff from all the trash, a smaller coil will do better. I bought mine because there are a few beaches I know that are cleaner than others and I want to have an edge when it comes to depth. My detecting time is also very limited so the more ground I can cover in areas like this the better. There are a few videos on youtube with guys using the big coil and doing very well. They are however on wide open spaces with very moderate trash.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: cladcanada
Date: November 08, 2017 12:13AM
lol , Evil clad. That about sums it up

Im running a delta 4000 and a tesoro so i am used to bouncing vdi numbers. the delta is getting old and i wanna replace it with best i can afford. I was just looking at the fors relic 's 6 modes , and liking it too . nokta makes too many machines i wanna try !

Beach and land hunting for that blasted :canadaflag: coinage. :rant:
Posted by: Monte
Date: November 08, 2017 08:24AM
Pete, I know the feeling you have regarding detector models offered by Nokta and a desire to find what works well for you, and that includes a desire to 'try-them-all' Unfortunately for me, I had five detectors stolen a month ago, and four of the five were Nokta's. One CoRe, two Relics and one Impact, along with one Impact and one Relic detector bag full of all my extra search coils and rods and other accessories.

Fortunately, I still had one of each back home at my son's shop as he was making a wooden detector transport holder for me so they won't bang around. I did buy an Impact to replace the one stolen because I like to keep two of each of my favorite models ready-to-go and outfitted with a different search coil. I am holding out hope they will be found and returned to me, and of all the stolen detectors the one I miss the most is my FORS CoRe.

I still had my 14X15 DD for the Impact at home, so it wasn't stolen and I'll have that larger-size coil for future hunts where a larger-size coil has a practical application. As Mike commented, the bigger-size coils are really at their best when used for larger-object searches. For smaller-size targets, such as coins, rings, trade token, buttons, etc., they are not really as functional, especially when dealing with ferrous-based (magnetic type) metal such as the bulk of the Canadian coinage.

I'm also fortunate that I currently live in a small town in Eastern Oregon, and that means I get to enjoy searching older and modern sites for the good-metal coins we have minted here in the :usaflag:,

Before I moved to Eastern Oregon I lived for a long time in and around the greater Portland metro area, and that meant I used to come across Canadian coinage fairly often, especially back in late '60s thru mid '90s for some reason. Back before visual Target ID and digital circuitry designs, I used some basic, analog-based detectors and it seemed easier to find the pocket-change they make 'up north' because we were not distracted by erratic numeric TID's or mixed audio tones. I still run across Canadian coins now-and-then and noticed back in early '15 when using the CoRe that when I came across some, I had better performance with the CoRe than I did with other brand TID's that I was using at the time.

Those included the White's MX5 and MXT All-Pro, and the Teknetics Omega 8000 V.4 and T2. Listed here in the order of how well they handled Canadian coinage from best to worst, and the CoRe out-performed them all. Note, too, that with all detectors I hunt with, most of the time they are outfitted with their smaller size or next-to-smaller size search coils because I work trashier sites. That meant that the FORS CoRe was using the small 'OOR' DD coil and I also worked the 5½X10 DD back then.

Because Canadian coins have the metal make-up they do, it causes more difficulty trying to get a good audio response and a more consistent visual Target ID when coil size increases, and there's also the challenge that comes from using a Double-D coil. And again, with a DD the larger the coil size the more those coins seem to 'misbehave.'

Back to larger size or over-size search coils before I close. Too often a Hobbyists buys into the 'larger-is-better' thinking when they want to get better coin depth. The problems with that reasoning is, as I mentioned earlier, larger coils work better at finding larger-size objects and at depth, not really smaller-size targets. They also do poorly when used in a location that has a lot of trash because the bigger coil sees more junk to deal with and this increases good-target masking which degraded the anticipated performance.

Safe thinking is to hope for coin depth about similar to what the standard 7X11 DD might get, but in low-target areas that are wide-open spaces to hunt, the 13X15 DD can provide better site coverage more than depth. It is still very important to overlap the search coil at least 50% on each back-and-forth sweep, but in some cases this can be helpful for patient Coin Hunters working wide-open areas.

Best of success on your country's coinage, and I know the Nokta models we are using can do quite well.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7 (coming soon)

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet' and White's Pro Star.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: cladcanada
Date: November 08, 2017 10:16AM
Thanks Monte

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: Sven
Date: November 08, 2017 05:33PM
Really not evil clad!!!
Just use the factory preset of Di3 and you will definitely be able to notice the particular audio the clad will give off compared to US clad, gold or silver coins. Kind of like a quick mixed sound.
After awhile the nickle dime quarter number bounce along with the mixed audio will give them away. Loons and Toons generally fall into a tighter number spread.
Di4 mode is also excellent to work in, same tell tale clues, just an extra tone. I haven't found the need to modify the factory Di3 Di4 mode presets.
I would suggest the 5x9DD along with the 7" concentric.

I have not tried any other Nokta's, so I can't comment how good they would be. Have no problems with the Impact. Clive CJC lives in Toronto Canada and owns an Impact as well, he also has a 7" coil. He lives a few hours away from me and has the advantage of Lake Ontario's beaches to play at.



Quest Pro & Q40, Nokta Impact
Self built Mirage Pi's --- they work great in trashy areas!!

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Re: CoRe first time at the beach:canadaflag:
Posted by: dfmike
Date: November 08, 2017 06:56PM
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Sven
Really not evil clad!!!

Evil for some detectors. Do you find that your Impact does better at 20 kHz on these coins than at lower frequencies ? Does it make it easier for you to recognize them by the audio or TID ? I've always wondered if frequency had something to do with it since I never had much success getting recent clad with my F5, Omega 8000 or the F44 I had unless I was hunting with a concentric coil. With a DD coil, those low frequency detectors would really struggle. My F19 and CoRe at higher frequencies work much better even with a DD coil.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5

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