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tossing the Idea
Posted by: BarryL
Date: April 16, 2017 01:15PM
OK guys never owned or used the Racer models . been reading about them and watching videos on them . getting ready to spend some money on a new detector . I have a few questions
1 ergonomics "they look cumbersome by the shape of the Rod"
2 any other coils available for it say like NEL coils

want make my decision until after May 6th as this is when another mfg is releasing a new detector . as well as a few other mfg releases just did not want to mention them here on this forum if its not OK

thanks in advance for replys

Questions and Comments.
Posted by: Monte
Date: April 16, 2017 01:58PM
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BarryL
OK guys never owned or used the Racer models . been reading about them and watching videos on them . getting ready to spend some money on a new detector.
Q: What are you using now, and have you even used a Nokta FORS series model?

Q: What detecting applications do you want to use it for?

Q: Will this be a model change to only have one detector, or a complement to what you use now? If a complement, what are you using?

Q: Are you asking about the 'original' Racer or the newer Racer 2?


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BarryL
I have a few questions

1 ergonomics "they look cumbersome by the shape of the Rod"
2 any other coils available for it say like NEL coils
A to #1: The Racer series is not 'cumbersome,' but the original Racer and Racer 2 did have different 'S' curve rods and grips. Someone mentioned last week that the Racer now uses the more relaxed 'S' curve rod of the Racer 2, bu8t I haven't heard that from the Nokta/Makro folks. Both styles work OK but I prefer the newer lazy S angle as it isn't as abrupt.

A to #2: Yes, there are after-market coils made my NEL, CORES and others, but I'll share my personal; opinion that I prefer the Makro supplied line of search coils. Oregon Gregg, Cal_Cobra and others will comment on the NEL coils they use or others, I am sure.


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BarryL
want make my decision until after May 6th as this is when another mfg is releasing a new detector . as well as a few other mfg releases just did not want to mention them here on this forum if its not OK
Who is releasing a new model about May 6th, and what other manufacturers have newer models coming?

One reason some detector makers are hard at work is because they need new product, some have fallen behind, and almost all of them have some catching up to do with what we have had coming out from Nokta Detectors and Makro Detectors for 2½ years now ... and continuing this very moment. Many newer competitor models are going to try and offer some of the features found on the Racer 2, as well as Nokta FORS Relic and even the just released Nokta Impact, but they are going to have to compete with a quality built product, and also compete with the balance and feel, in-the-field performance, and, let's not forget, .... MSRP. Quite a challenge for them to face.

Consider what is offered and compare features and price with any of the Makro or Nokta detector models, then select what you think will best fit your needs. That's what I have done, and I keep adding duplicate models of what works well for me. :thumbup:

Monte



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My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star Headphones w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg shovel and Digmaster digging tool

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Re: tossing the Idea
Posted by: Cal_Cobra
Date: April 16, 2017 02:03PM
I have both the Red Racer and the Racer2, and find neither cumbersome, I can and have swung them all day long without issue, but ergonomics is different for everyone.

In addition to the multitude of factory coils available, NEL, CORS, and MARS all makes aftermarket Racer coils, so there's no shortage of coils available. I posted a complete list of Racer coils on here recently.

HH,
Cal

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Re: Questions and Comments.
Posted by: BarryL
Date: April 16, 2017 04:47PM
thanks to both replys . Monte I have sold all detectors That I had for various reasons mainly weight as I am getting to the point that weight is the main reason .I kept the X2 which I will never sell for personal reasons and recently purchased a Mohave and a compadre for mainly back ups
I don't have a specific Item I hunt for as I just love the hobby and the chance to dig history. I will say I am not a jewelry hunter but if I get lucky then so be it .
Garrett has a new detector coming out as well as the Patriot by First Texas any way thanks for you reply as I always respect your answers and knowledge .

Re: tossing the Idea
Posted by: Goldpick
Date: April 17, 2017 04:14AM
The only ergonomic issue I have found with the Racer 2 is the thickness of the grip on the s-shaft. I found it way too thin for myself, though a simple fix with some some layers of camo tape around the grip truly made a world of difference - I don't have the largest hands in the world either.

Aside from having a near full compliment of Makro coils for the Racer 2, I also use the 10x13" Mars MD Tiger - very lightweight for the size, great coverage, and it goes plenty deep. I don't have any NEL coils for the Racer, though do use them on other detectors with nothing bad to say about them.

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