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7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: oleterryg
Date: August 23, 2017 09:24AM
Ordered the new 7" concentric for my Red Racer, Mon morning, received it this morning. Unbelievable service from medaldetector.com.

Very impressed with this coil. May be a game changer.
Number 1, it's light and feels so good on the Racer .

#2: It works perfectly right out of the box. Almost eerie.
Placed a quarter, dime, and penny, on the ground. Turned Racer on to factory settings, and not even a whimper. I says, "something must be wrong".
Swung the coil over the targets and whooa , got perfect signals up to 8 to 9" when pin pointing. Pushed sensitivity up to 90 and another whooa. Won't even go there when I did all metal.

What really impressed me was pinpointing. Granted, I knew where the targets were, but you just knew this was special.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2017 09:34AM by oleterryg.

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Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: August 23, 2017 09:30AM
I haven't ordered one yet, really anxious to hear what your thoughts on the coil are after using it a bit. I bet it's going to be a great coil.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites M6

Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: oleterryg
Date: August 23, 2017 09:36AM
I can't wait to do a real hunt. Tomorrow morning.

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Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: August 23, 2017 10:02AM
LOL, well I went ahead and ordered the 7" Concentric for my Racer 2. Hell if you're that excited about a coil right out of the box.....that's good enough for me :smile: Also Monte has been working a 7" concentric for the Impact...so I'm sure we will hear from him at some point in time. But from what I gather.....its one great little coil.....of the two Impact machines that he has...it sounds like the 7" concentric might be stuck on the end of one of them full time.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites M6

Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: oleterryg
Date: August 23, 2017 10:17AM
Gregg, that's the same initial feeling I have about this coin. Thete to stay.

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Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: Kapok
Date: August 23, 2017 11:27AM
I remember when a concentric was the only thing I'd use, and I had to be pulled along grudgingly when DD coils were introduced. Since most detectors have had DD coils by default for a while now, it's been a minute since I've used a concentric--probably the last one was on my Outlaw. But hearing this, it sounds like I will be ordering one soon for R2. Am interested in hearing some in-the-field reports about how it works in iron or other heavy trash.



Ridding the world of pulltabs, one plug at a time | Makro Racer 2 | Minelab Explorer SE

About that new 7" Concentric coil ...
Posted by: Monte
Date: August 23, 2017 11:28AM
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OregonGregg
LOL, well I went ahead and ordered the 7" Concentric for my Racer 2. Hell if you're that excited about a coil right out of the box.....that's good enough for me :smile: Also Monte has been working a 7" concentric for the Impact...so I'm sure we will hear from him at some point in time. But from what I gather.....its one great little coil.....of the two Impact machines that he has...it sounds like the 7" concentric might be stuck on the end of one of them full time.

Gregg, I have a feeling you are 100% correct!

Don't get me wrong, I really like all of the DD coils we have from Makro / Nokta for the Racer series, FORS series and Impact. Their detectors were designed with those DD coils and they impress me very well, and all have a purpose to be in my detector and coil arsenal. That said, ever since I got a Nokta FORS CoRe in my hand in early January of '15, soon followed by an original Racer, I have asked, from the start, for a Concentric coil. I am quite partial to a good working Concentric coil hooked to the end of a great working detector, and have been enjoying my 5½X10 Concentric on my FORS Relic for the past twenty months. All along I have been hoping for a Concentric coil for my FORS CoRe or FORS Relic, and I'll continue hoping the good folks over in Turkey will offer that option in the future.

If they do, I feel this new 7" Concentric coil would be a perfect size and design for them to use. Until that happens, and I hope it might, we have the benefit of enjoying an excellent search coil for the Racer/Racer 2 and Impact models, and as Gregg guessed, this coil is likely to stay mounted full-time on my main-use Impact. Very light weight, well balanced, and typical concentric coil performance afield, with very satisfactory depth of detection for those more open areas with less masking trash.

Matter-of-fact, I'm out the door in ten minutes to go put more field time in with it, and I'll be enjoying every minute of it, too. An exceptionally fine search coil. :thumbup: :clapping:

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star Headphones w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg shovel and Digmaster digging tool

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: August 25, 2017 07:50AM
Well, let's here some 7" concentric coil/Racer 2 actual hunt reports!!:smile:

Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: oleterryg
Date: August 25, 2017 08:16AM
After 2 hour hunt:
I like the way it feels on my racer, light and we'll balanced. No problem swinging for two hours, and swing I did, as targets were few.

I hunted a new piece of ground, and didn't know what to expect.
A small lime sink. A toy airplane, set of two keys, 2 dimes, a nickel, and 6 pennies, including 1 wheat.

Pinpointing is amazingly accurate. I mean, spot on center.
I found depth to be about the same as the stock coil.

It's a keeper. Imio.

D&P-OR, I can give you some almost actual field reports.
Posted by: Monte
Date: August 25, 2017 08:59PM
I say 'almost' because I don't have the 7" Concentric for the Racer series yet, but I DO have the 7" Concentric coil mounted on my main-use Nokta Impact and it has to be about 'THE BEST' search coil anyone could want to have in their arsenal. I have used mine steadily ever since I got it for urban Coin & Jewelry Hunting sites from here in Vale Oregon to Boise Idaho. Then I worked it yesterday at a CCC site that was later a Japanese Internment Camp during WW-II. Today I gave it a tougher challenge as I met Oregon Gregg up at 'Lone Tree' where I could hunt a lot of area, but mainly concentrate on several sections that have an especially dense amount of mixed iron junk and ample rusty tin, from cans and can lids to small decaying shards of tin.

Not only is this 7" Concentric coil light weight and amazingly well balanced, but it was also well designed to have the rod mounting point close to the center axis of the coil. The Pinpointing is as perfect as any Concentric coil could ever be. And we can now experience the advantages a good Concentric coil can offer over a Double-D design when it comes to dealing with bottle caps, rusty tin and other pesky challenging iron junk. Much better audio identification of the discarded iron junk, with lower-reading and easily 'classified' audio and visual responses from typical ferrous discards.

Very well balanced and comfortable to use for a longer duration of hunting w/o undue fatigue. Gregg has one ordered and on the way for his Racer 2 and I am certain that once he puts in an hour or two with it, hunting the many sites we tend to visit frequently, he will likely end up feeling the same way I do, and that is to have a dedicated detector assigned the 7" Concentric coil to keep mounted on a full-time basis, and do so for one excellent reason ... it is a nearly perfect all-purpose/general-purpose search coil.

I am certain you will get one, and when you do you'll know what I mean. It's amazing how the Nokta / Makro group just seem to keep bringing us detectors and coils that are so well engineered, and they listen to their consumer base to provide us all the products that seem to be in demand and asked for. Maybe sometimes a little slower than what we like, but they come through most of the time. I have been wanting, begging for, a Concentric coil of this size ever since I got my FORS CoRe three January's ago. I also wanted one for the Racer series and the Nokta FORS Relic, and then the Impact once it hit my hands and I worked it afield.

Today, owners of a Makro Racer or Racer 2 and the Nokta Impact are getting what might be 'special treatment' because a manufacturer rose to the occasion and has given us what we want AND need with this 7" Concentric coil. I only hope and wish there is enough request and demand from Nokta FORS CoRe and Relic users that the good folks in Turkey will feel the urge to use this same 7" configuration and produce a Concentric for the Relic and CoRe devices as well.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star Headphones w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg shovel and Digmaster digging tool

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: Tom Slick
Date: August 26, 2017 09:41PM
I don't believe there is a 7" concentric coil got the IMPACT. I think it's right up there with Fairy Dust and Unicorns. It's a myth, Fairy Tale, Yarn, BS, a Lark or anything else you can think of.



Arizona
42 years detecting, ex White's dealer.
Current Detectors:
Nokta Impact
Makro Racer 2
Makro Gold Racer
White's DFX x 3
Tesoro Tiger Shark
Minelab Sovereign GT
Fisher F19

Tom, the 7" Concentric coil is one of
Posted by: Monte
Date: August 27, 2017 05:08AM
the nicer additions Nokta / Makro could have made to the Impact and Racer series models.

Gregg Z. should have his 7" Con. for the Racer 2 soon, and if it works as well as the 7" Concentric on my Impact he is going to thoroughly enjoy it! It has made me rethink my search coil assignments a bit on the Impact units. I just need more lower rods for that device to keep a couple of the extra coils mounted and ready-to-go, but for now the 7" Concentric is staying mounted on my first Impact, and the 5X9½ DD is on my other. Might put in some more time working the 5X9½ and stock 7X11 DD's against each other in a few low-to-modest trashy sites and determine which will stay mounted most of the time, but right now I am leaning toward the 5X9½ DD.

In those iron littered places, with all that difficult-to-see dense mix of rusty tin shards and square nails where you found the 1865 Seated Liberty 10¢ on the June WTHO, I worked the new 7" Concentric against the round 5" DD and 4X7½ DD. While every coil will have its strengths and weaknesses, the 7" Concentric was just a pleasure to use. Gregg Z. has the 7" Concentric on the way for his Racer 2 and we'll be sure to check them out side-by-side. Knowing how well the Racer 2 works, I feel certain there will be similar performance behavior in those rusty tin saturated old town sites and Gregg will likely keep the 7" Con. coil mounted full-time on one of his Racer 2's as I do on an Impact.

I don't doubt that you will enjoy one as well on your Racer 2 or on the Impact ... maybe one on each? :shrug:

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star Headphones w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg shovel and Digmaster digging tool

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: Cal_Cobra
Date: August 27, 2017 02:49PM
It would be interesting for someone to post a video showing the 7" concentric coil using Di3 mode, tested against the next largest sized DD coil on some of those rusty tin/iron bits of junk that litter most ghost towns and waste so much time digging. Like an A/B comparison on the audio and TID on a few targets (heck even a few good ones, like a silver dime and a nickle).

I'm curious how much better the audio and TID is with the 7" concentric coil :shrug:

Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: oleterryg
Date: August 28, 2017 01:24PM
After 3 hunts with the 7" concentric, I can't say if it has any a vantage in depth vs the stock DD coil.

What I do know is it's a pleasure to swing, covers enough ground, and is amazing to pin point.

Re: 7" concentric for Racer
Posted by: iqwozpoom
Date: August 28, 2017 09:07PM
I've only had the opportunity to go out once with the new 7c. So far these are my observations, light easy to swing, easy to pinpoint, great tid and hot on nickles! Seems to work in between junk and iron, takes full advantage of the racers blendie audio.
I put my 6x10 in the box that it came in when I got it, don't see myself taking out anytime soon. This coil feels like a combo of the oor and a larger coil. I'm glad Makro decided on a round profile and not a faux dd shape. Like I said it feels like Makro took the little oor and hot rodded it!

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