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Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: Kapok
Date: September 18, 2017 12:26PM
I got permission to hunt an empty 1910s era school building, and it is absolutely trashed out, with rusty nails, coal, broken glass, bottlecaps, and other junk littering the surface. It was tough sledding, but with the Racer 2 and the OOR coil, I was able to pick out some goodies, including a silver Rosie, nice token, brass button, old headstamp, and a '28 wheat in less than an hour. I know this place has been hunted previously, but the Racer 2 IMO is the ideal detector for this kind of site, able to laser in on a single coin-sized target surrounded on four sides by other competing signals. I'll report back as I continue to work this site. Love my Makro.



Ridding the world of pulltabs, one plug at a time | Makro Racer 2 | Minelab Explorer SE




Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: semtav
Date: September 18, 2017 05:21PM
Nice finds Kapok. what mode you using. i've been playing around with all of them.

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Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: Kapok
Date: September 18, 2017 05:56PM
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semtav
Nice finds Kapok. what mode you using. i've been playing around with all of them.
I use primarily two tones since I like to hear everything, but sometimes will use 3 tones if it gets unbearable. That being said, I was using 3 tones yesterday when I found both the wheat and the dime.



Ridding the world of pulltabs, one plug at a time | Makro Racer 2 | Minelab Explorer SE

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Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: dfmike
Date: September 18, 2017 06:09PM
Nice finds. I got the OOR coil myself only recently and haven't used it yet. I'm just wondering how much of an area you can cover in about 2 hours with that coil. I remember using it once (a 5 inch round) on my F19 and having the distinct impression that I wasn't moving ! I gather you only use it on very trashy sites that have been visited before right ?

Is the coil better at recognizing bottle caps (better than bigger DD coils) ?



Active detectors: Fisher F5 , Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705

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Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: Kapok
Date: September 18, 2017 07:26PM
Mike, I use the OOR coil a lot since I usually hunt trashed out spots. I actually started out yesterday using my Minelab Explorer, but it was just hopeless in all that trash. So any time I felt I would have lost by using a small coil was not nearly what I'd have spent waiting for the Explorer to make up its mind on each signal or to stop nulling out. On that topic, I don't really analyze the amount of ground I cover with the small coil, since I'm a bit of a spastic hunter. My hunting partner says I'm like spit on a hot griddle since I move around a lot. I guess I should use a more organized plan of attack. But the Racer is pretty fast, and I don't feel bogged down.

As far as IDing bottle caps, those things are tough on every detector/coil combo I've ever owned. I mean, on any certain site you start to get a feel for how bottle caps are sounding and IDing, but anything with a high ID, I'm digging.



Ridding the world of pulltabs, one plug at a time | Makro Racer 2 | Minelab Explorer SE

And it will keep on doing so as you use and master it.
Posted by: Monte
Date: September 19, 2017 08:25AM
Congrats on the success you had.

I keep a standard 7X11 DD on one of my Nokta FORS Relic units, and a 5½X10 Concentric on another. I have a new open-frame IM24 5X9½ DD on one of my Impacts that works great. I then borrowed the FC24 Oregon Gregg's to check out on my FORS CoRe and doing so found a 1937 and 1940 Merc. silver dimes and a '30 Wheat-back in the first 30 minutes in a site we have worked pretty hard. I plan to get an FC24 to mount on one of my CoRe's and an FR24 for one of my Relic units.

Since I mainly work very trashy sites, my favorite coils are the smallest Makro & Nokta make and I prefer the 'OOR' or round 5" DD coils on the Raver 2, keep an 'OOR' mounted full-time to my main-use FORS CoRe and a 5" DD on my first grab FORS Relic. Yes, when looking way down at the far and of the rod the little 'OOR' and 5" coils do appear to be small, and they are ... but they do work tremendously.

These detectors work at their best with a methodical slow sweep coil presentation, and that's important if hunting in a densely iron contaminated site. It just takes patience and being attentive to the site challenges, such as working in and around brush, building rubble, structures, etc. Trying to go too fast or cover ground too quickly isn't going to be a good thing, especially if you are working the smaller-size search coils.

Also, the bulk of my detecting with a smaller coil mounted is done using the Di3 (3-Tone) processed audio mode, and in dense iron trash, such as nails, sheet iron and crown-type/crimp-on-bottle caps, these models all produce a very tell-tale low-tone iron audio response to alert me of a probably annoying ferrous metal piece of trash.

With most mid-size and larger search coils my preference is to use the Di2 (2-Tone) search mode most of the time, especially if the most encountered iron trash targets are nails. There is one exception, however, for those who use a Makro Racer or Racer 2, or the new Impact, and that is to make use of the new 7" Concentric coils for these models. Looking down at the 7" coil doesn't seem so intimidating, plus it provides very good depth and coverage, and since it is a Concentric design and not Double-D, the Target ID can be 'cleaner' and better on targets at mid-depth and deeper, pinpointing is easier, and with this coil you get better in-the-field performance when it comes to classifying iron-based targets.

They generally produce a lower numeric VDI response on most iron trash, too, I keep my 7" Concentric mounted on my most-used Impact, and Oregon Gregg has found it a great general-purpose coil for his Racer 2. Just another coil option to consider.



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Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta:
Impact w/7" C., Impact w/5X9½ DD, Relic w/5" DD, Relic w/5½X10 C., Relic w/7X11 DD, CoRe w/'OOR' DD and CoRe w/7X11 DD
Tesoro:
Vaquero w/6" C., Bandido II µMAX w/6" C., Silver Sabre µMAX w/6" C. and Mojave w/7" C.

Other Specialty Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet'.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
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Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: semtav
Date: September 19, 2017 09:07AM
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Kapok
My hunting partner says I'm like spit on a hot griddle since I move around a lot. I guess I should use a more organized plan of attack. But the Racer is pretty fast, and I don't feel bogged down.

Sounds familiar !!!! Probably why I did so good with the MXT. It could catch things on the fly !!

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Re: Racer 2 continues to impress me
Posted by: dfmike
Date: September 19, 2017 04:25PM
Thanks Kapok and Monte.

I now have the FC24 and the FC13 OOR myself. I haven't used them yet but only tested. I know where they could outclass my 7 X 11 though. I'm impressed at how solid these coils look.



Active detectors: Fisher F5 , Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705

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