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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: GazinUK
Date: September 21, 2017 04:09AM
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Jason in Enid

I dont think this was ever intended to be as good as the CTX or replace it. I think if you are a silver hunter, the CTX will still be your primary tool. But what about those horridly trashy sites? I think this was made for those spots plus low conductors like gold or hammered silvers. We all know the CTX is a silver slayer but has been shown to be lacking when searching for gold.

I haven't seen anyone question who or which country its aimed at?

Here in the UK an Explorer II will find exactly what the CTX will even at the same depth. A Deus is fast yes, but I bought one for what I thought were my trashy sites only to find that a well set up explorer found just as much but took a little longer.

I own all of the above and am on the waiting list for the new Equinox, am I expecting it too find more or deeper targets? No I'm not, if it match's the Deus that may go, and am looking at the GPX range for deep targets on pasture.

Absolutely agree with BryanV! As a former Explorer owner and a current CTX owner, and at my advanced age - lighter weight is a MUST!!!!!!N/T
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Date: September 21, 2017 11:02AM

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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: JBM1
Date: September 21, 2017 11:38AM
I attended the Detectorist 17 Rally and it was a brilliant event held over 3 days.

Minelab went overboard on this event, which organised to raise money for 2 charities.

All the manufacturers attending seemed to do well especially the Quest team.

XP were very busy as were all their agents.

The new Minelab shows promise, but those with the cash on the day were disappointed to hear there will be a 3 month wait.

Minelab freebies were handed out like there is no tomorrow.

Over 500 finds some going back 2000 years were registered using current varied detectors in daily use.

I think there were more XP Deus machines than any one other model in use at the dig.

Time will tell where the new Equinox is heading but it shows promise.

Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.

As I appeared to be oldest detectorist at the dig at 83 I have seen many changes since the 1970`s.

I wonder what tomorrow will bring if Rocket Man doesnt ruin things for us all.

Happy Hunting,,.

Jerry.

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: xwyokid
Date: September 21, 2017 04:07PM
Sov. and a White's 6000

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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: Jackpine Savage
Date: September 21, 2017 04:15PM
I think the X-Terra's will hang on for a while longer since they are now sold at a lower price point.



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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: September 21, 2017 07:20PM
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JBM1
I attended the Detectorist 17 Rally and it was a brilliant event held over 3 days.

Minelab went overboard on this event, which organised to raise money for 2 charities.

All the manufacturers attending seemed to do well especially the Quest team.

XP were very busy as were all their agents.

The new Minelab shows promise, but those with the cash on the day were disappointed to hear there will be a 3 month wait.

Minelab freebies were handed out like there is no tomorrow.

Over 500 finds some going back 2000 years were registered using current varied detectors in daily use.

I think there were more XP Deus machines than any one other model in use at the dig.

Time will tell where the new Equinox is heading but it shows promise.

Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.

As I appeared to be oldest detectorist at the dig at 83 I have seen many changes since the 1970`s.

I wonder what tomorrow will bring if Rocket Man doesnt ruin things for us all.

Happy Hunting,,.

Jerry.

Jerry , This new machine is going to rock XP i think . Minelab will make a lot of dosh with this one.

It cant have wireless as XP have patented the tech i think .
As for the cable , run it up the side of the stem and tape it to the stem then wrap last bit at the top under the box.
Its not a CTX / ET and the price was going to dictate the design .
What happens for their next machine is anybodies guess but the Safari and ET will be next for replacement, this one is the replacement for the Terra's no doubt. But what a replacement !
I cant wait to get mine.



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 x 2 (ordered) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: September 21, 2017 07:42PM
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JBM1


Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.



Jerry.

Really? The internal coil cable is a pain in the ass! Every time you want to swap coils you have to fish cables up the rods, and taking things apart just to connect/disconnect. It was the one aspect I didnt like about the E-Trac and CTX

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: skateteacher
Date: September 21, 2017 09:22PM
Really? The internal coil cable is a pain in the ass! Every time you want to swap coils you have to fish cables up the rods, and taking things apart just to connect/disconnect. It was the one aspect I didnt like about the E-Trac and CTX[/quote]

this is where the equinox is going to shine. By the looks of it you're going to be able to purchase a high dollar detector that isn't going to fry your brain trying to figure out how to use it. You get Minelab's legendary technology in a simple easy to use form (if the video's are to be believed). If this thing is as simple to use as it seems that alone will cut into the CTX market. For those that say you should get a V3i if you want multi-frequency think again as that machine has a steeper learning curve than the CTX. Simplicity is what most people want, then comes reliability. You can't use simplicity/reliability to describe the CTX.

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: unearth
Date: September 21, 2017 09:32PM
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JBM1


Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.



Jerry.

Really? The internal coil cable is a pain in the ass! Every time you want to swap coils you have to fish cables up the rods, and taking things apart just to connect/disconnect. It was the one aspect I didnt like about the E-Trac and CTX

I like the cable on the inside also. I just get a second lower rod, attach my additional coil, and then just swap lower rods. I think this way is easier than undoing the coil every time you want to switch coils.

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: September 21, 2017 11:21PM
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xwyokid
Sov. and a White's 6000

Hmmm....that's a pretty serious combo right there! Hopefully your next purchase will be a nice addition,but personally I can't say I'd be in any hurry to unload any of what you already have....good luck on what you decide,the Equinox does indeed grow on me more and more every time I look at it and the promise it may hold. But my CTX and Explorer2 have a permanent home here...regardless of any reviews. I already know what they do! Similar to your Sov and 6K...

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: dbado1
Date: September 23, 2017 10:20PM
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JBM1


Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.



Jerry.

Really? The internal coil cable is a pain in the ass! Every time you want to swap coils you have to fish cables up the rods, and taking things apart just to connect/disconnect. It was the one aspect I didnt like about the E-Trac and CTX

I like the cable on the inside also. I just get a second lower rod, attach my additional coil, and then just swap lower rods. I think this way is easier than undoing the coil every time you want to switch coils.

+1. Every coil has its own rod. Much easier!
As much as I love the X-TERRAs, I believe they are gonna go on the chopping block. The ET and CTX are safe...for now. I think this new platform will be a spring board for some new models in the near future...like a CTX 2 or some other new FBS unit.

Dean

Will the equinox kill the X-terra or the CTX series?
Posted by: Rich (Utah)
Date: September 24, 2017 01:19AM
Dent in the CTX sales? I guess an additional question needs to be asked, What percentage of CTX buyers made the purchase because it is Weather/Water Proof (3 meters) but didn't really need or use all of the fancy that went along with it? Provided the Equinox performs well, I think THOSE buyers will go with the less expensive Equinox rather than the CTX.

I think the bigger group however, is those, like myself, that have been waiting in the wings for a multi-frequency weather proof machine that is light weight and reasonably priced. There will always be some that move from one model to another for whatever reasons. I think the 'genius' here is Minelab recognizing that there is a group of people looking for a detector that hasn't been made yet and they've taken a swing at it. If the Equinox 800 performance is everything Minelab is alluding to, I think that they're going to have a walk off grand slam on this one.

So much depends on the performance of this new machine. Will the multi-IQ Equinox be a deep coin and silver slayer like the Etrac and CTX? Will is sort thru trash better than the current best? As a multipurpose machine, we've still not heard about it's gold nugget capabilities. Is Steve H out putting the Equinox thru its' paces in the gold fields? What about our mates down in Australia? Still more to come here.

As for the X-Terra, I am thinking like those who've already said that the Equinox appears to be Minelab's replacement for the X-Terra. Phase out the one, bring in the other.

I am wondering if this new design will move across the other Minelab coinshooting models. An Etrac in this configuration would be awesome. Is the battery/space sufficient to support a flyweight Etrac or would they need to add a battery compartment under the cuff?

Like I said, more to come here. We will wait and see.


Rich -



enjoying the vistas and horizons of the Old West.

Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: September 24, 2017 02:38AM
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Personally I did not like the heavy cable wrapped around the shaft.

It would have been better to hide it within the shaft or to go completely wireless.



Jerry.

Really? The internal coil cable is a pain in the ass! Every time you want to swap coils you have to fish cables up the rods, and taking things apart just to connect/disconnect. It was the one aspect I didnt like about the E-Trac and CTX

I like the cable on the inside also. I just get a second lower rod, attach my additional coil, and then just swap lower rods. I think this way is easier than undoing the coil every time you want to switch coils.

+1. Every coil has its own rod. Much easier!
As much as I love the X-TERRAs, I believe they are gonna go on the chopping block. The ET and CTX are safe...for now. I think this new platform will be a spring board for some new models in the near future...like a CTX 2 or some other new FBS unit.

Dean

Its time for the Safari and ET to be replaced . They will be next i think ?

I also think that if i am right then i think Minelab have started to think that the CTX has been a failure and that may be replaced sooner than it would have been . Lets face it , it hasn't sold anywhere near as many units as the ET or older Explorer's going by the digs and rallies i have been too.
The weight of it must be the main factor , its the reason so many Deus are at digs . Usually 80% of all machines at UK digs are Deus or other XP machines with maybe 5% CTX . Thats a failure if i ever saw one..

A new lightweight ET like the Equinox will put that right but they need to give it single freq use too like the Equinox and dont give it a silly name , give it a proper name .
It might take some of the CTX sales but they all go to Minelab and sales are sales.
And keep the price down .



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 x 2 (ordered) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: dewcon4414
Date: September 24, 2017 05:59AM
Im just looking at it differently that you dirt digger. As a salt water hunter i like the design...... its lighter, fast, muti freq, has a TID, right coil size, WATER PROOF, and a huge advantage getting the smaller gold in dry sand over the multi freqs used in the water. I see it as a simple but strong whites machine with a ML label. It may not get the depth of FBS but makes it up in the dry sand with sensitivity and Freqs. It wont replace the CTX as a dirt hunter..... but may get more of them out of the water. We asked for an upgraded Xcal..... and this machine as a wader to your neck seems to offer a lot of what we asked for. Cost of an Xcal with mods can be $1700...... this machine has a super price. As far as the coil cable..... i prefer it outside too the CTX swings like a 2X4 in the water with all that drag from the large shaft. Run it straight up along the shaft tape it off and put the excess just in front of the grip. Not heard any reviews from a water person....... why? What kind of warrant does it have, how is it charged..... i assume lith, and what kind of water connector is used?



Xcal II, Blue Xcal 1000, Sov GT, Exp SE
Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll argue with you.... John Wooden.
D. Meeker

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Re: Will this NEW equinox kill the X-terra series, or even the CTX series?
Posted by: meggie
Date: September 26, 2017 06:49AM
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Rick(ND)
I agree that it may be the end of the X-Terras, but not the E- Trac or the CTX as these are the upper end Minelabs where as the new Equinox is made to compete with some of the other mid price detectors.
I am planning on trying one out myself just to see what it can do and what it cant, but dont feel it will replace my Sovereign GT or any of the E-Trac or CTX as these are proven detectors.


Rick

I fully agree and whilst I may try one my GT does everything & more that I want it to .. not replaceable.

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