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Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: keppy
Date: October 10, 2017 10:03PM
That is true i can not get a firm price yet.
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"Carolina"
I'm curious how you paid your dealer when a firm price has not been nailed down? MSRP or MAP.



North East ohio on lake Erie

Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Rich (Utah)
Date: October 10, 2017 10:07PM
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Whitbey
We should all unite and ask Minelab to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable over the internet!
I wanted to preorder an Equinox 800 ,but after reading you can not upgrade the firmware at home over the internet, I am not going to order one and will wait till all the software bugs are repaired even if I have to wait six month or longer. If Minelab would change this before they bring out the new Equinox series, I would buy one right away.

I thought Minelab said during their Equinox introduction that they heard us and made the Equinox to our specifications, Minelab we are asking you now to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable from our homes and put your money where your mouth is!!!!!!! We want the Equinox firmware upgradable before you bring it on the market at the end of December or in January and bring a perfect unit on the market, you still have enough time left!

Whitbey, I held up on a previous ALL WEATHER DETECTOR purchase about 18 months ago because of troubles during the launch of the detector. Looking back, I am glad I waited. If you have concerns and misgivings about the Equinox faltering out of the gate, you should wait. Don't feel pressured because of the enthusiasm of others. If the Equinox doesn't check off the boxes that you want, don't buy it. There are other detectors out there that are very capable and I know of one that can be updated that has a very large following. Of course, it does cost quite a bit more . . . . . . . . .


Rich (Utah)



enjoying the vistas and horizons of the Old West.

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Tyber0z
Date: October 10, 2017 10:14PM
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Whitbey
We should all unite and ask Minelab to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable over the internet!
I wanted to preorder an Equinox 800 ,but after reading you can not upgrade the firmware at home over the internet, I am not going to order one and will wait till all the software bugs are repaired even if I have to wait six month or longer. If Minelab would change this before they bring out the new Equinox series, I would buy one right away.

I thought Minelab said during their Equinox introduction that they heard us and made the Equinox to our specifications, Minelab we are asking you now to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable from our homes and put your money where your mouth is!!!!!!! We want the Equinox firmware upgradable before you bring it on the market at the end of December or in January and bring a perfect unit on the market, you still have enough time left!

Why should it be updatable?
How do you know it will require updates?
Without ever having touched the machine or seen it in action, why are you convinced this is necessary?
Furthermore, how do you know what you read is accurate?
Where did you read this?
What is the reliability of the source of that information?
"I'm not going to order one" = Ok
"Will wait until all the software bugs are repaired" = How do you know such bugs exist?
"I thought Minelab said during their Equinox introduction that they heard" = Translation: Minelab isn't listening to us". You're sowing doubt and confusion for no reason.
"Minelab, we are asking you..." - I'm not asking them for that, you are. Baselessly, it seems.

You know, you're a brand new account here and this is all you're talking about. That's really suspicious, honestly...

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Ksdirt
I am 100 o/o along with this...I have already paid my dealer and am going to have him hang on to my money now...I'll wait ...I hope like h,,,,LL they get this done ASAP......
Come on minelab do it right your so close ...don't blow it now....:rage:

Don't blow it? HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS ANYTHING THAT NEEDS FIXING!?

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Ksdirt
I just sent this to minelab.........

Minelab...please ,,please ,please make the Equinox when it comes out to be able to do software updates....don't wait on this....read forums in findmall ...people including myself are backing off
Form buying since we learned you can't do updates when it comes out...this is terrible...DO NOT PUT THIS OFF....LOOK ON FINDMALL ...we are starting a topic on this ....we no you have the tech ....don't blow this ....please reply....:sadwalk:

"People are backing off" - No, we aren't. You're insane and you've been spouting this nonsense since day one. You are either a hater or something is wrong with you.

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Bryan V
I'm not backing off from my order.
I don't care about upgradable firmware. Would it be nice? Sure but no big deal to me.

Hopefully this campaign doesn't slow the release of the Equinox...

Bryan

These people are here only to sow confusion.

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Whitbey
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Ksdirt
I just sent this to minelab.........

Minelab...please ,,please ,please make the Equinox when it comes out to be able to do software updates....don't wait on this....read forums in findmall ...people including myself are backing off
Form buying since we learned you can't do updates when it comes out...this is terrible...DO NOT PUT THIS OFF....LOOK ON FINDMALL ...we are starting a topic on this ....we no you have the tech ....don't blow this ....please reply....:sadwalk:

We need more people like you! Let us all speak up and maybe Minelab will hear us consumers who buy their products, We want a good and whole Equinox not a half finished product ,we are paying for it and this time we want something gooooooooood!!!!!!!

It's almost as if these two guys are working together to try to create discontent where none exists...

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"Carolina"
I'm curious how you paid your dealer when a firm price has not been nailed down? MSRP or MAP.

He gave money to a guy who said he's get him a detector. That's not pre-ordering, that's being foolish. :blowup:

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Ksdirt
I gave him my etrac with extra coils ,rods ,etc...which was in mint condition......He took it on trade for when it comes out...that's how much I want an Equinox plus some cash..one of the coils was the 13" altimate .....I think this should cover it...

You traded a MINT E-Trac with extras and you want to give him MORE money? So you make poor decisions often? You are either foolish or lying.

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Whitbey

We live in the twenty first Century and we need and want everything upgradable over the Internet, like your cell phones tablets and computers. Since the Equinox is just a small computer we want it upgradable. Would you want to buy a cell phone or tablet etc. If you could not upgrade the software? I do not think you would. XP Deus can do it and Minelab has it in one of their other detectors, why not on the Equinox it is just like any other cell phone or computer technology!

My mentor has run the same machine for over a decade, without upgrades, and he has over a dozen gold coins. I have a stock E-Trac with no "upgrades". The VAST MAJORITY of Metal Detectors (like 99% of them), do not have this capability. So why are you so convinced it is necessary for the Equinox, why are you so convinced it's not possible with the Equinox (I read it on the internet is NOT proof), and why are you so convinced Minelab is messing up with this machine? Admit it, you are here to poison the discussion.

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Ksdirt
Date: October 10, 2017 10:26PM
I'm not saying it has to be upgraded but if it does I would like to be able to....even if it's a year from now...but if you can't update it what do you do ..buy another perhaps Equinox II...
This isn't a bounty hunter...or f2

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Tyber0z
Date: October 10, 2017 10:34PM
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Ksdirt
I'm not saying it has to be upgraded but if it does I would like to be able to....even if it's a year from now...but if you can't update it what do you do ..buy another perhaps Equinox II...
This isn't a bounty hunter...or f2

Literally WHAT is an Equinox II? What are you babbling about? You're speaking in absolute nonsense.

The accusation is that essentially Minelab is putting a performance governor on their machines so that they can sell you an upgraded model later for more money. Then why release two versions of the Equinox at two very different price points? Why offer them for less than the current models? What proof do you have that this is their plan? Is there a Safari II? an E-Trac II? A CTX II?

Explorer XS - Released in 1998; Explorer II - released in 2004; E-Trac - Released in 2009; CTX3030 - released in 2012. These are all machines that improve upon the previous machine in significant ways, and they were all released years after the previous, and they were all offered at different price points. The Safari, the Quatro, and the SE Pros were all SIMPLER versions for less money.

You have not even touched the machine - let alone operated it - and apparently you put up a mint condition E-Trac, extras, PLUS CASH to get a Nox800, and now you're accusing Minelab of having some bizarre scheme to screw you out of your money? Seriously, Ksdirt, there is something wrong with you. Or,a s I have suggested already, you are here for the purpose of disrupting an otherwise normal - sane - conversation.

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Dan(NM)
Date: October 10, 2017 10:36PM
I have one pre-ordered and am confident my machine will function without issues or needing an update to do so. Much ado about nothing it seems to me.

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: NorCalGold
Date: October 10, 2017 10:48PM
TyberOz, Thank you!

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: October 10, 2017 10:55PM
You what????:yikes:
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Ksdirt
I gave him my etrac with extra coils ,rods ,etc...which was in mint condition......He took it on trade for when it comes out...that's how much I want an Equinox plus some cash..one of the coils was the 13" altimate .....I think this should cover it...


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If it can be done I wonder how much more the price will be??
Posted by: Rick(ND)
Date: October 10, 2017 11:25PM
I agree we dont need any hold ups on this detector, plus how much more it will cost and how much longer it will take to get one with up-gradable firmware. Maybe something for the next model of the Equinox Minelab can come out with like they did with the Explorers as if it is a good detector they will be making other models.

Just my opinion.

Rick

Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Rich (Utah)
Date: October 11, 2017 12:12AM
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Ksdirt
I'm not saying it has to be upgraded but if it does I would like to be able to....even if it's a year from now...but if you can't update it what do you do ..buy another perhaps Equinox II...
This isn't a bounty hunter...or f2

Ksdirt,

Would I like to see online software update(s) that would solve a software bug or glitch should they be found? Yes. I guess I would rather do that than have to package the detector and MAIL it in. But that's really about it for me. Here's why.

I bought an Explorer XS way back when they first came out (early adopter) A few years later came the Explorer II. Then the Explorer SE and then the SE Pro and the E-trac. The series evolved. Hardware and software changes were made. There are die hard users of the various models that will argue quite effectively about the traits that were gained and lost with each step along the way.

As somebody that watches technology change at a rapid pace due to my job, I want to suggest that there are some changes software cannot address, Faster processors and increased hardware capabilities are a key component in the progressions of all electronic devices that can't be upgraded over the 'internet'. To word this another way, how long do I expect my detector manufacturer to increase performance with software updates ONLY regardless of changes in technology? It won't be long before they HAVE to bring out a new model with updates to the hardware and software to stay competitive.

I don't doubt that a few years down the road there will be an Equinox 900 or 1000 or whatever they call it. It's to be expected.

Rich (Utah)


P.S. if you continue your march with Minelab on this, can you ask them to include a version for MAC? Thanks.



enjoying the vistas and horizons of the Old West.

Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: "Carolina"
Date: October 11, 2017 03:46AM
Ksdirt:
Just ran across a picture of your dealer!!! :rofl:



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Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: October 11, 2017 04:05AM
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Rich (Utah)
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Whitbey
We should all unite and ask Minelab to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable over the internet!
I wanted to preorder an Equinox 800 ,but after reading you can not upgrade the firmware at home over the internet, I am not going to order one and will wait till all the software bugs are repaired even if I have to wait six month or longer. If Minelab would change this before they bring out the new Equinox series, I would buy one right away.

I thought Minelab said during their Equinox introduction that they heard us and made the Equinox to our specifications, Minelab we are asking you now to make the Equinox series firmware upgradable from our homes and put your money where your mouth is!!!!!!! We want the Equinox firmware upgradable before you bring it on the market at the end of December or in January and bring a perfect unit on the market, you still have enough time left!

Whitbey, I held up on a previous ALL WEATHER DETECTOR purchase about 18 months ago because of troubles during the launch of the detector. Looking back, I am glad I waited. If you have concerns and misgivings about the Equinox faltering out of the gate, you should wait. Don't feel pressured because of the enthusiasm of others. If the Equinox doesn't check off the boxes that you want, don't buy it. There are other detectors out there that are very capable and I know of one that can be updated that has a very large following. Of course, it does cost quite a bit more . . . . . . . . .


Rich (Utah)

Its cost thats the important thing here .
Minelab have done their best to keep it down but also adding as much as they can without making it a top end machine..
I would be happy seeing an ET replacement like the Equinox but with a lightweight 3 piece carbon fibre stem like the Anderson shaft, though 3 piece not 2.
Provided the Equinox works in the salt wet like other multi freq machines we are going to see this machine sell like hot cakes. The Deus and even the CTX are going to take a knock.
But i think that is Minelabs idea , i think the ET and the CTX are up for the next replacement , probably in around 2 years.



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 x 2 (ordered) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: Let us all ask Minelab to make the Equinox series Firmware upgradable
Posted by: amberjack
Date: October 11, 2017 06:34AM
did they say Christmas 2017 or 2018 ? or was that 19 :bouncy: all the people living in the future are missing out on today , get out and use todays modal I can 100% guarantee it will find more than a detector that's not even in production yet :buds:

and for all we know may never be produced or could be a real go find :biggrin: cause we have many speculation threads I am going to say that this EQ is just that an updated go find and I am well within my rights to do so as that's what everyone else is doing :yo:

swing away..

AJ

Re: Log into thier site and state your case there. At least you will know they got your messageN/T
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Date: October 11, 2017 07:44AM

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Re: Waiting for rain and for them to give me the rights to the Exp II softwareN/T
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Date: October 11, 2017 07:45AM

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