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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: stephenscool
Date: November 01, 2017 10:30PM
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"Carolina"
Steve: His question was how well does it run on wet saltwater sand with lots of iron and detectors nearby? Minelabs answer was ALMOST as good as FBS and BBS detectors. Not my answer but theirs. Marketing? I don't think so. I think it means exactly what it says.
Detectors of different brands... pi machines, etc. Would be interesting to see the results. Black sand is a different subject.
How will it react to a tdi or an atx being run flat out 30ft away. How will other detectors react to the Equinox ?

Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: stephenscool
Date: November 01, 2017 11:44PM
If I'm looking at this correctly this is how I see it.. in easy terms to understand.
The frequencies are like a "rainbow". Bbs/fbs are pumping out an almost full spectrum. From 1 end of the visible spectrum(red) to the other end (violet). But 1x1. 1 color at a time. The Equinox has choosen a few "colors" of the rainbow spectrum but instead of going through them 1x1 it's firing 2 or more at the same time.
I will be very interested to see the "equinox2" in a few years time
As fbs/bbs has a wider spectrum ... it technically would hit deep silver harder under certain conditions at 1 end of the spectrum. How often those conditions in real life would be met is not for me to answer

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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: Southwind
Date: November 02, 2017 08:00AM
From the diagram I've seen it still looks like the Equinox is a time domain detector like the BBS/FBS.



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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: November 02, 2017 11:25AM
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One last thing, can you elaborate on what you mean by saying the switch from the E-Trac to the CTX was really easy for you "once you stopped trying to be strict with your silver coin numbers?" I was of the understanding that FBS2 (CTX) is even BETTER with ID accuracy, versus FBS1...

I'd like to hear your thoughts here. The ONE reason (besides the biggie -- price) that I did not consider a switch to the CTX was that I felt it might be too much of an adjustment; that I'd be starting from scratch, especially since the tones are (as I heard, anyway) SO MUCH different from the E-Trac/Explorer. So what you are saying here is somewhat surprising...you are saying the switch was NOT very hard, BUT, that what was the hardest adjustment was not the TONES (as I had thought it might be), but the "ID numbers..." This intrigues me, and I'd like to hear more...maybe in a PM? If you PM me, I'll give you my email address, so as to not derail this thread, perhaps?

Steve

Sure thing.
sending a PM

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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: November 02, 2017 11:36AM
One thought I have had reading all this wonderful discussion. The EQ has some brand new tech in it. New enough for them to change the name possibly start their next line of detectors. The EQ isn't going to have all the "bells and whistles" like the CTX. You can't change tones, or bins, or look at a FE-CO display. This plays right in line with the concept of a mid-range detector. Solid performance, not all the optional toys. Perhaps there will later be an EQ2 in which we do have all the other options. We can make the changes to suit the interface as we like, as well as see both of their Q and I profiles on the screen which is how the FBS display is now. All of us who swing an FBS detector know how powerful of a tool the FE-CO display is, especially with target-trace.

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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: nalc472
Date: November 03, 2017 09:28AM
If they make a e-trac like detector with a screen I can see (LOL) I will want one. Just add this freq tech and it will sell like hotcakes. Note: I own a E-trac and also now have an 800 reserved. I have skin in the game. been using the Etrac for 3 years. Found a 1953 Half (first for me) last time out. Gotta love Minelab.

Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: Ksdirt
Date: November 03, 2017 01:31PM
Hopefully they get the EQ close to being right when it is released because minelab refuses to change anything after that......I mean how long have many of us have been trying To get them to change the screen on the Etrac where you can see it .....oh yeah ,if the lighting is just right....they just won't do it...there like sorry that's just the way it is ..TUFF. ...imagine having an Etrac with a screen like the V3i....just dreaming I guess...but it looks like you can see the screen on th EQ.....big start already. :clapping:

Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: November 03, 2017 06:37PM
As far as the screen goes there may be properties of those particular panels they use which allow for the display to be what it is...I don't know anything about that stuff. I'd rather have the etrac and shitty display that can find silver than another machine with a great display that can't come close. Just defending ML here....there seems to be a lot criticism about things that don't matter that much to me. If the machine isn't a silver hound in tough conditions it doesn't matter what else it has. But I see everyone's point about the subject and it could be better,maybe.
To the point made about the value of the FECO display,it's invaluable. I wish anyone who hasn't had the chance to use an Explorer2 on up could use one exclusively for a year...free of charge...that way they wouldn't be saying it's great cuz they spent the money or say it sucks cuz they expected more....does it do what you want it to with accuracy you've never experienced before? That is the question,and for me the answer is YES,it's been a game changer for me and many others.
If the Equinox has something that works in a similar fashion(being able to SOMEHOW deduce the XY composition) then it'll be easy to love. I would have to think, unless this is indeed being put on the market as a mid-level "jack of all trades" with CO numbers only, that ML knows how the FECO display has changed detecting completely in the 15 or so years it's been around. That's one feature that almost all ML users have come to rely on,and for very good reason...it WORKS.

Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: Ksdirt
Date: November 03, 2017 07:44PM
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As far as the screen goes there may be properties of those particular panels they use which allow for the display to be what it is...I don't know anything about that stuff. I'd rather have the etrac and shitty display that can find silver than another machine with a great display that can't come close. Just defending ML here....there seems to be a lot criticism about things that don't matter that much to me. If the machine isn't a silver hound in tough conditions it doesn't matter what else it has. But I see everyone's point about the subject and it could be better,maybe.
To the point made about the value of the FECO display,it's invaluable. I wish anyone who hasn't had the chance to use an Explorer2 on up could use one exclusively for a year...free of charge...that way they wouldn't be saying it's great cuz they spent the money or say it sucks cuz they expected more....does it do what you want it to with accuracy you've never experienced before? That is the question,and for me the answer is YES,it's been a game changer for me and many others.
If the Equinox has something that works in a similar fashion(being able to SOMEHOW deduce the XY composition) then it'll be easy to love. I would have to think, unless this is indeed being put on the market as a mid-level "jack of all trades" with CO numbers only, that ML knows how the FECO display has changed detecting completely in the 15 or so years it's been around. That's one feature that almost all ML users have come to rely on,and for very good reason...it WORKS.

I suppose if minelab can't figure out how to get a detector to find silver as good as the etrac with a good display that's just as good as tech.gets....hopefully someone will...

Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: November 03, 2017 09:26PM
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IDXMonster
As far as the screen goes there may be properties of those particular panels they use which allow for the display to be what it is...I don't know anything about that stuff. I'd rather have the etrac and shitty display that can find silver than another machine with a great display that can't come close. Just defending ML here....there seems to be a lot criticism about things that don't matter that much to me. If the machine isn't a silver hound in tough conditions it doesn't matter what else it has. But I see everyone's point about the subject and it could be better,maybe.
To the point made about the value of the FECO display,it's invaluable. I wish anyone who hasn't had the chance to use an Explorer2 on up could use one exclusively for a year...free of charge...that way they wouldn't be saying it's great cuz they spent the money or say it sucks cuz they expected more....does it do what you want it to with accuracy you've never experienced before? That is the question,and for me the answer is YES,it's been a game changer for me and many others.
If the Equinox has something that works in a similar fashion(being able to SOMEHOW deduce the XY composition) then it'll be easy to love. I would have to think, unless this is indeed being put on the market as a mid-level "jack of all trades" with CO numbers only, that ML knows how the FECO display has changed detecting completely in the 15 or so years it's been around. That's one feature that almost all ML users have come to rely on,and for very good reason...it WORKS.

I suppose if minelab can't figure out how to get a detector to find silver as good as the etrac with a good display that's just as good as tech.gets....hopefully someone will...

Yeah it seems like it would be a no brainer with the display,my Explorer2 stinks but the CTX is much better with the backlight cranked. Do the etracs have a backlight brightness adjustment? If my Explorer2 had an intensity adjustment it would be better...in direct sunlight they both suck! Maybe something like Google glass with an App? "Big Treble" on the forum across the street has a V3i and I must admit THAT display is quite visible,but he doesn't see anything he likes on it very often!:lol:

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Re: EQUINOX Technologies (Part 2)
Posted by: nalc472
Date: November 03, 2017 11:27PM
I could see the V3i screen great but it could not show me targets very deep. LOL :)

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