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No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: 6000proxl
Date: November 06, 2017 05:03AM
The lack of Beach videos apparently none leaves me to wonder idf the Equinox is going to perform as crappy a most other VLF machines on the beach! Ive put my order on hold until sprin on the 800 I have a CTX and until the Equinox is tested by real world everyday detectorist ill wait!

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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: dewcon4414
Date: November 06, 2017 05:20AM
I assume you are talking about multi freq having issues with very tiny gold? That issue isnt going away IN the salt water...... still requires a salt setting and multi freq to operate. So if you want to buy the EQ for smaller gold its only going to help in the dry sand. Im holding off because the CTX was tested and initially didnht work in salt water..... and leaked. No water testing videos and most of the testing has been in EU in the dirt...... tells me ML doesnt see the potential for this machine being a beach machine...... especially with the release date coming soon. Sadly....... ill have to hold off too.

Dew



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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: wltdwiz
Date: November 06, 2017 07:56AM
no fear :minelab:



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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: November 06, 2017 08:03AM
were there pre-release beach videos of the CTX?

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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: lytle78
Date: November 06, 2017 08:38AM
Here’s what I think I know about the beach.....

The only current detectors which get decent depth in salt water are either multifrequency Induction Balance machines (like the FBS/BBS machines or the Fisher CZ21) or pulse induction machines from various makers.

Some single frequency machines can ground balance all the way to where the salt signal i balanced out, but they typically lose considerable depth when set up that way.

However, no current beach detector is sensitive to small gold in salt water. Thin chains, charms, small, thin rings, especially 10k stuff are all pretty much undetectable in salt.

The ground balance for needed by any IB detector (including Multifreq. ones) loses small gold along with the salt signal.

For existing Pulse Induction detectors, the minimum pulse delay needed to detect small gold would be so short that the salt is detected as noise.

New technology is needed and none has reached the market.

The EQ should do more or less as well as the current FBS/BBS machines in salt.



Rick Kempf

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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: amberjack
Date: November 06, 2017 09:11AM
pulse is always going to be better at fine gold in salt water against the multi's to date..

trade offs in all detecting, no perfect metal detector including IQ based detectors so if in search of nirvana best to look on youtube and type in "smells like teen spirit" or similar :super:

one day there will be perfection but until then we just have to do the best with what we have :biggrin:

AJ

Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Des D
Date: November 06, 2017 09:46AM
Dew,

The only videos I've seen on the EQX were from "Dr.Tones", aka Brandon and he tested in the USA
Other Russian testers also put up videos. Neither the USA or Russia are in the EU
What are you referring to? Is it what was seen from 'Detectival?' The UK is currently in the process of leaving the EU and I didn't see any input at all from a UK tester of the EQX

Des D

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So far, there are few videos and I think that will be the case until the detector hits the market.
Posted by: Greg (E.Tn)
Date: November 06, 2017 10:10AM
Amazing what hype can do, isn't it? :drinking:

Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Neil
Date: November 06, 2017 11:09AM
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lytle78
Here’s what I think I know about the beach.....

The only current detectors which get decent depth in salt water are either multifrequency Induction Balance machines (like the FBS/BBS machines or the Fisher CZ21) or pulse induction machines from various makers.

Some single frequency machines can ground balance all the way to where the salt signal i balanced out, but they typically lose considerable depth when set up that way.

However, no current beach detector is sensitive to small gold in salt water. Thin chains, charms, small, thin rings, especially 10k stuff are all pretty much undetectable in salt.

The ground balance for needed by any IB detector (including Multifreq. ones) loses small gold along with the salt signal.

For existing Pulse Induction detectors, the minimum pulse delay needed to detect small gold would be so short that the salt is detected as noise.

New technology is needed and none has reached the market.

The EQ should do more or less as well as the current FBS/BBS machines in salt.


That's really the million dollar question, is this equinox gonna match the fbs/bbs performance.......



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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: November 06, 2017 11:39AM
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Neil
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lytle78
Here’s what I think I know about the beach.....

The only current detectors which get decent depth in salt water are either multifrequency Induction Balance machines (like the FBS/BBS machines or the Fisher CZ21) or pulse induction machines from various makers.

Some single frequency machines can ground balance all the way to where the salt signal i balanced out, but they typically lose considerable depth when set up that way.

However, no current beach detector is sensitive to small gold in salt water. Thin chains, charms, small, thin rings, especially 10k stuff are all pretty much undetectable in salt.

The ground balance for needed by any IB detector (including Multifreq. ones) loses small gold along with the salt signal.

For existing Pulse Induction detectors, the minimum pulse delay needed to detect small gold would be so short that the salt is detected as noise.

New technology is needed and none has reached the market.

The EQ should do more or less as well as the current FBS/BBS machines in salt.


That's really the million dollar question, is this equinox gonna match the fbs/bbs performance.......

I know of 9k Gold found in salt wet and i find them on wet sand too.

As for beach tests MINELAB need to get a move on or they will scare off customers . Its the main reason i want the Equinox .

Hopefully they will get a few salt wet tests done soon.



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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: lytle78
Date: November 06, 2017 11:42AM
For the beach - no reason why it shouldn’t.

My problem is that no current detector can solve the small gold in salt water problem. Small gold is lost at a MUCH higher rate than rings And Rolexes - and in salt sand, virtuallly NONE of it has ever been found. When a detector comes along which can find small gold in wet salt sand as well as a nugget detector like the Gold Bug 2 can find it in dry sand, the earliest users of that detector will pay for them many times over. Light foil will be shallow or gone in the wet zone and deep sweet targets will pay the bills.

My personal current hope is that the Manta - recently announced to have been aquired and under dative development by Fisher - will be this machine. I have posted video clips of the Manta prototype in action elsewhere and won’t do so on an EQ forum.

I would be very surprised if the EQ does not prove to be useful and successful.



Rick Kempf

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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: November 06, 2017 11:43AM
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Nuke em


I know of 9k Gold found in salt wet and i find them on wet sand too.

As for beach tests MINELAB need to get a move on or they will scare off customers . Its the main reason i want the Equinox .

Hopefully they will get a few salt wet tests done soon.

"testing" has been over with for a long time. They are in full production right now. Hell, theyre probably loading shipping containers of them at sea ports right now so they can be in the countries, and in the hands of distributors so they can be shipped by the release goal date they have.

Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: November 06, 2017 11:51AM
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Jason in Enid
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Nuke em


I know of 9k Gold found in salt wet and i find them on wet sand too.

As for beach tests MINELAB need to get a move on or they will scare off customers . Its the main reason i want the Equinox .

Hopefully they will get a few salt wet tests done soon.

"testing" has been over with for a long time. They are in full production right now. Hell, they're probably loading shipping containers of them at sea ports right now so they can be in the countries, and in the hands of distributors so they can be shipped by the release goal date they have.

Hope so . But i think Minelab needs to give a few details of the beach capability or there will be a slow start to sales till people get on beaches and test for themselves .
Anyway hope its released soon .



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 x 2 (ordered) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: dewcon4414
Date: November 06, 2017 12:01PM
Ive not noticed 10K being as difficult as WHITE gold..... it depends a lot on, size, depth, and whats mixed with the gold. The Xcal will hit a piece .3 of a gram out there in the water.

Sorry Des..... my bad, i thought Brandon did the testing in the UK and yes i was referring to detectival.

I was told there were only 5 people who got them to play with here in the states. Neil...... IMO its like listening to real good speaker or BOSE....... we may not notice a difference in the salt water. Like the BBS and FBS machines........ there are goods and bads, but at the end of the day i honestly cant see one out performing the other. So to me i believe the advantage may come in the dry sand with those single freq and not having to accept the Multi freq performance or bring a second machine.



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Re: No beach videos on Equinox has me scared ill wait!!!!
Posted by: lytle78
Date: November 06, 2017 12:31PM
Good catch dewcon - I meant white gold.



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