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Re: Stories by Cupajo..............
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: November 27, 2009 06:14AM
Too bad I didn't "hang onto" the stuff I dumped at a little over 600 dollars an ounce!!:nopity:

If I only knew then-----------!!!!

CJ



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2009 06:15AM by Cupajo.

Re: Stories by Cupajo..............
Posted by: TexasCharley
Date: November 27, 2009 01:07PM
And if, when we were in high school, we'd known what we know now, our lives probably would have been a lot more 'interesting.'

Re: DIgging the surf can be brutal!!! Looks like you had fun though
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: November 29, 2009 05:57PM
Hi Royal,

Thanks for your reply Friend!

I have located the owner of one I found a few months ago from 2007 by contacting her school and giving them the info necessary for her to contact me.

She said she thought it was a gone forever and was delighted to hear I had found it!

She will have to travel a bit to pick it up, but I told her not to worry as it will be here when she has a chance to stop by.

It took me years of wasted energy to finally return a ring from a nursing college in Massachusetts last year via a third party and I haven't heard one word from the owner about her getting it back!!!

Sometimes I don't know if it's worth the effort, but when I meet the owners that are appreciative I know I am doing the right thing!!

Regards,

CJ

:usaflag: Quality Time With Mother Nature, Another Kind Of Treasure Hunting!!:thumbup:
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: November 30, 2009 09:28AM
As many of you know I start my day with a hot cup-a-jo watching the sun rise over the eastern end of Long Island Sound. This is quality time I share with Mother Nature that sometimes is a delightful experience of watching lovely colors come forth chasing away the night with changing light intensity and a sudden brilliant burst of the suns golden rays over the horizon! After that first beam of sunlight sears its way over the horizon on a really clear day you must avert your gaze or suffer blindness!

On other days when low lying cloud cover acts as a filter tempering the blazing rays one can enjoy watching directly the colorful spectacle of the sun rising out of the depths of darkness and changing night to day. Slowly the sun climbs into view until about 31/2 minutes after the first rays of light are seen it is completely visible as a sphere of radiant energy balancing on the horizon. Too soon the colorful display is over and my day is well begun. I have only enjoyed this experience as a daily event since the beginning of the summer season due to the failing economy creating free time in my schedule.

As the summer season got underway I noticed that there began to be debris left on the beach after the days crowd was gone for the day. I can understand how one might lose something in the sand, but I cannot understand how a sane person can walk away from the mess they make of the beach.

I began to pick up these odd bits and pieces of trash left behind by thoughtless people and soon realized that I am living in an age of witless, insensitive and completely disrespectful idiots!!!!!!!!!!! I watched as people walked along stepping on or over trash to find a clear space where they might rest themselves in comfort while the stuff is blowing about them in the breeze off the water. Rarely would a person pick up any of the stuff and place it in a garbage container. Just as rare was the person who placed their own trash in the containers provided.

I began to pick this stuff up off my beach in the early morning as part of my daily routine and dumping it in the eight 55 gallon drums provided for that purpose. A six gallon plastic pail full was the norm and on several mornings I filled it twice. On the day after the Memorial Day weekend I picked up 13 plastic pails full!! The two 55 gallon drums on either end of the row of drums at the end of the beach access road were filled to over-flowing with trash piled all over the ground around them! The next two were ¾ full, the next two ½ full and the rest nearly empty!!!! People were in too big a hurry to leave or too lazy to take one or two steps to place their trash in the drums where there was room. A couple of days later the towns contract with a local beach cleaning crew started, but even then I found plenty of stuff to dispose of.

Our beach has a reputation for having the softest sand in the North East and I know the secret is the cigarette butts. Not one of the beach lovers gives a second thought to the fact that they are laying their bare skin down in a half mile long ash-tray! I made an attempt to remove the butts for a while and quickly realized I would not make a dent in the problem even with a dump truck to haul them away and a pay-loader to pick them up!

This season I managed to remove many pails of regular trash such as candy wrappers, bottles and cans along with bottle caps, broken glass and fireworks debris. I picked up 5 or 6 syringes (2 with needles) and 6 or 7 fish hooks along with fishing line (untangled and tied end to end this line wound probably reach England!!) and 3 broken beer bottles with jagged glass edges awaiting an unwary barefooted walker.

This AM I was I for a real shock as I neared the waters edge at high tide. I saw an accumulation of cigarette butts at the tide line that was so dense I could pick them up with my mechanical grabbers two and three at a time!! The waters edge was covered with them and after clearing a few yards of them I saw a plastic wrist band that had VIP on it and it occurred to me that a passing Party Boat must have dumped their butt-load into the sound!! In my dreamed of perfect world anyone caught committing such an offence against nature would be given the option of cleaning up the mess or eating it, forcefully if necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!

On those rare days when I can detect the dry/wet sand I have found buried rusty wire and nails, 2- steak knives and one butcher knife and a number of metal table forks all awaiting the un-wary! I only hope my efforts can save a child from such a dreaded learning experience as having a painful encounter with anything I might miss! My six Grandchildren all enjoy playing on these sands!

One day I saw a young father tell his son to pick up a bit of plastic I had missed and put it in the barrel provided. I told him how wonderful an example he was setting for his son and I thanked him for doing so. I doubt if his son will ever become a disrespectful fool like so many others due to his fathers efforts.

People seem surprised to learn what I am picking up each morning and some even thank me for my efforts. The usual question I get is, Find anything good? My usual reply is that the most valuable things I have ever found are fish hooks, syringes and broken bottles!

CJ



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2009 09:33AM by Cupajo.

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Cupajo, it is sad that folks have to live a "pig" lifestyle..............
Posted by: Kelley (Texas)
Date: November 30, 2009 09:32PM
Many years ago, my folks lived down near Corpus Christi, Texas. When we would visit them, I loved to walk along the beaches looking for old bottles or other old things that would wash up on the beach. I remember how disgusted I would get when a plastic soda pop bottle would wash up on the beach...I always picked them up and disposed of them in one of the barrels set up for trash collecting. I do not ever remember seeing much cigarette butts or other trash to the extent that you have described on your beach. However, I have not been down there for almost twenty years and we may now have the same situation on our beaches. Cupajo, I guess folks just live like selfish pigs now days...goes along with the daily rudeness that they commonly display towards their fellow man. Sad! Kelley (Texas) :)



"Try to live up to your dog's opinion of you!"

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Re: Cupajo, it is sad that folks have to live a "pig" lifestyle..............N/T
Posted by: Kelley (Texas)
Date: November 30, 2009 09:33PM

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yea litter bugs are slobs, ask anyone after a big fireworks in Vancouver...N/T
Posted by: ojm bc
Date: November 30, 2009 11:24PM

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Mayne it is just the age.... or the mindset....or the leanings... but I notice that almost all people who detect, do take the time to clan up the beach..
Posted by: Mikie
Date: December 01, 2009 08:04AM
I know I do... and like you, I find a fair bit of junk.

Sometimes all you can do is give your head a shake!!!

Calm seas

Micheal



"A dog is better than me, for she has love and does not judge"

"Surfing is not a matter of life and death...... it is much more important than that"

Re: :usaflag: Quality Time With Mother Nature, Another Kind Of Treasure Hunting!!:thumbup:
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: December 01, 2009 10:21AM
Thanks for your replies Fellow Hunters!!

This whole beach combing experience has been an eye-opener for me.

It's been a wonderful opportunity to interact with the general public and to discuss not only environmental issues, but to promote our hobby as a valuable service too!

I find it amazing that people in general pay very little attention to their environment and how few know anything at all about our hobby.

I believe that in the 40 years my family and I have lived here, I have spent more time on the beach and in the water than anyone in the area.

I have monitored the ebb and flow of the water front as the sands shift with the seasons and storms.

The beaches have always been a problem to keep clean, but it seems to me that the current crop of beach abusers are the worst ever!

I'll continue to do what I do as long as I can and perhaps by setting an example can see some change. The beach I consider "my beach" is only 1/2 mile or so long and during the summer season the town has contracted a crew that cleans up early in the AM.

I noticed that the crew misses some things though and the mechanical sweeper will only pick up so much too.

I help out by taking away those things they miss.

Shortly after the season the contract runs out, but the mess isn't so huge and I can handle it.

It only takes some of my early morning spare time and I enjoy the activity in spite of being annoyed at the attitudes that cause the problem.

I've found I agree with the old saying that ,"If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!" and I know that even my small part has value.

After all, the can you pick up today is one less lying there tomorrow.

When I hunt the beach or the water with my detector I only do so when I have sufficient time to enjoy the experience so this early morning activity doesn't cut into my preferred hunting time.

One of the fellows that works for the cleaning contractor picks up all the bottles and cans and makes more off them than he does in wages!

He also finds lost articles that have put more cash in his pocket.

I often beat him to the beach and leave the redeemables for him, but I did keep the twenty three dollars I found for myself!!:thumbup:

GL&HH Friends,

CJ

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Like you and others here I try and leave a place cleaner than I found it.
Posted by: George-CT
Date: December 01, 2009 05:49PM
Often its just broken glass bottles, or intact ones, flip tops, aluminum cans of all sorts, lots of floating tin foil in the lakes around here, fish hooks, lures etc. I don't get the amount that you do for sure, but at least by hunting some of the small fresh water beaches here they are a bit safer for kids. We did have one beach close on us on the RI/CT border last year. A lot of spanish folks were coming in from Providence, and really leaving it a mess. Stuff all over the place, even goat pits where they cooked them. Many cars on weeks ends with BIG sound systems blaring. It pretty much drove off everyone else. Lots of really wiped out people on something. The state finally got tired of it, Closed off the parking lot, brought in 3 18 wheeler loads of trap rock, big ones and spread all over the beach. No one gets to use it now and it was one of the cleanest lakes in the state called Beach Pond on CT RI border. It was one of my favortie detecting areas. Gone from people being pigs...

Geo-CT

Re: Like you and others here I try and leave a place cleaner than I found it.
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: December 02, 2009 09:05AM
Icy glaze on the damp sand this AM.

Sunrise especially beautiful today with lots of muted reds and purples, wind a gentle NW hint of a breeze and waves lightly slapping the waters edge.

Hot black coffee and a warm cinnamon roll kicked off the day and as the sun eased over the horizon into low cloud cover I watched from a position at the waters edge.about a hundred yards down the beach from where I had enjoyed my repast in my warm van.

Tide was coming in, but still low enough that I could find a couple of bottle bottoms (one with jagged edges sticking up out of the wet sand!) and many pieces of fishing line, but no hooks, a couple of bottle caps awash in the edge of the water line and a number of pieces of plastic mostly pieces of cups that somehow ended up in the water.

I have seen plastic cups, bottles and bags blown out into the water from the beach.

Maybe 8 miles across the water is visible a span of water on the SE horizon called "The Race" where water pours into the Long Island Sound by sweeping up and over an underwater ridge of stony ledge.

When the tide reverses the water "races" back out to sea again.

This area of turbulence has some of the finest fishing on the Eastern Seaboard and I'm sure accounts for the vast majority of the fishing line I pick up off the beach.

Snarls of line thoughtlessly tossed overboard.

It's a sad thing to witness what some people are doing to our world.

Some cultures seem less sensitive to how important taking care of the planet really is and it seems too that these folk have little respect for fellow humans not of their culture.

As Mikie says, "Sometimes all you can do is give your head a shake!", when you think of this abuse.

Back in the '70 Jacques Cousteau said that he had been in every navigable body of water on the earth and no matter how remote the location he found plastic!

Recently I heard from several sources about a huge mass of plastic floating somewhere out in the ocean said to be as large as the state of Rhode Island!

A very sad and unsettling though for sure!!

CJ

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I know The Race very well Copajo..... We used
Posted by: George-CT
Date: December 02, 2009 09:35AM
to do a lot of blue fishing there and for years had lobster pots there. Its fast and deep and runs hard except for slack high and low tide.
Thats what attracted us to it. We used heavy pots and you could only see the buoy at slack low and high tide. the rest of the time the fast courent would pull them under water and away from the summer clowns who THINK, those lobsters live in those then wooden pots just for their enjoyment. It cut down on the losses for sure. Down side was you fished when the tide was slack, no matter what time it was....... When the race is nasty its a dangerous place to be. Those first 3 waves either side of it can get you in trouble especially in a following sea....

Us being in the Long Island Sound there are a lot of people using it for a dump so we will be dealing with the junk forever I think. I know ocean beach uses the big sand cleaners on the back of a tractor. I think it only goes down about 3 inches. Fact I used to detect where they dumped it all. There eyes were more useful than a detector. Most of the guys who do the raking caught on to that pretty quickly.

Big snow pills that were pilled all winter in big parking lots are good in the spring time also. As they melt down, lots of stuff was lost over the winter.

It was 25 here this morning, but its back up over 40 now. I wish this was it for winter and it stayed like it is. I dread the snow coming in. Its fun the first week and after that it looses its charm. With that storm coming in tonight you should have some good pickings tomorrow if it blows right.....

George

Re: :usaflag: Quality Time With Mother Nature, Another Kind Of Treasure Hunting!!:thumbup:
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: December 04, 2009 10:09AM
I have never gone out to the race in my own boat, but I did fish it on a couple of party boats over the years.

When we were out there I was stunned to see a few fishermen out there in 12-14" aluminum boats risking their lives in that weekend madhouse!!

I've heard of a number of sizable fishing boats getting in trouble out there when the water got to jumping!

My fishing rarely takes me more than a short swim/walk from shore on the Ct. side!

There has been very little fishing activity this year and I have only been out in my old boat once!

My Grandson caught the only fish as usual, a nice Blue!

Regards,

CJ

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Blues are fun to catch for sure. Good fighters.
Posted by: George-CT
Date: December 04, 2009 08:04PM
We would get them in the race. Usually tired to get them when the bait fish were on top. Easier to get them in the boat. Gets crazy with the gulls diving, and blues driving them up out of the water. Then they go to bottom and we used these big blue fish jigs. Pull them out of 100 feet of water in the rip is work after a few, yet as soon as it was in the boat we would be back down after another one. We used to put them in a smoker. I like them that way.... Now I guess they don't recommend to eat to many because of the PCB levels and mercury. We used to get them also right out at the discharge from Millstone point. The pumps would grind up the bait fish and the blues would be feeding right there. Crazy when there are in....

Yes, dangerous waters for a small boat. I don't know how many green horns we see there tie up a slack tide to a lobster pot bouy, and once the rip started running again, they were not paying attention and it would pull the bow under and that was it, they were in the water. The party boats picked them up quick or we would. Seen it happen many times. Then on real bad days, I've seen big boats take such a pounding that they would open up. Back then, they were wooden planked boats, with age on them. Pretty stupid place to be in and old boat. I like to listen to the Race Rock Light Horn on fog days. That horn has a weird sound to it.....but sure nice to hear in comimg in from open sea in the fog. Next one was Latermiers Light. heading into the mouth of the Thames River.

You got the best of it, a day with you grandson fishing. Time well spent.

George

Re: Blues are fun to catch for sure. Good fighters.
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: December 04, 2009 08:37PM
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