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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: TAB.HUNTER
Date: February 25, 2014 09:40AM
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Well you better think again then!-----I talked to the lady at Tesoro & mentioned I was hoping for a Spring market release date on their new detector and she said "that's too soon for us".-----Guess we better cut them quite a bit more slack!
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While I agree with you......... let's cut Tesoro just a bit more slack. I would think that Spring would be the target release date....it better not be much later.

They probably would have released it months ago but all the people with big expectations probably made their offering embarrassing so they went back into the hole.

From what I have heard.....................might as well just go out and buy an Outlaw.
Spring is around the corner, grab a detector and go hunting, have some fun with what you own.
Don't get depressed not getting that new Tesoro, you know, there's life beyond the Kingdom................if you can get out.........LOL.

Bought the Outlaw last year. It fills the bill for my relic & coin hunting style/needs. I'm hoping for a new machine for prospecting. If that don't happen, I will return to the Lobo, Fisher Gold Bug, or Garrett AT Gold. I guess the last two would be my Tesoro "upgrade." It would be a tough call because I used the Lobo before. The discrimination was awesome. I can take a flat nail, put a dime under it (air testing) and it would still see the dime. We tried that with the MXT and it failed. I love the MXT. Great machine but my swing arm is jacked up. Otherwise, I would have one right now. There are many great detectors out there.
I work in a Casino. Tax returns are now flowing into the slots. People feel good (and rich) right now. What comes next? Oh ya, PROPERTY TAXES! WoW! What a great time to release a product. :clapping:

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: RLOH
Date: February 25, 2014 11:56AM
I will be ecstatic if Tesoro does a remake of a Vaquero or Tejon, but adds tone ID. It would be a plus if this type of detector is able to be under water to ten feet or so. I don't think Tesoro has the financial resources to design a multiple frequency or a unit far superior to the Deleon or Cortes. I hate the saying "it is what it is", but I like what Tesoro currenty "is". Don't expect anything earth shattering, just another lightweight, well performing, reasonably priced detector. That is Tesoro's small corner of the market.

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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: BarryL
Date: February 25, 2014 12:12PM
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I will be ecstatic if Tesoro does a remake of a Vaquero or Tejon, but adds tone ID. It would be a plus if this type of detector is able to be under water to ten feet or so. I don't think Tesoro has the financial resources to design a multiple frequency or a unit far superior to the Deleon or Cortes. I hate the saying "it is what it is", but I like what Tesoro currenty "is". Don't expect anything earth shattering, just another lightweight, well performing, reasonably priced detector. That is Tesoro's small corner of the market.

I agree totally . It would be an awesome setup on the Vaquero I wish I would have kept mine but I thought the grass was greener on the other side of the fence and went a different direction now I am in debate on another Vaquero this time with the high tone mod if Tesoro will do this still? or to get another Tejon Choices, Choices where do they stop! Not going to wait on the new release . I just cant make myself believe they will do that much improvement on what they have now . As you state their small corner of the market .

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: TAB.HUNTER
Date: February 25, 2014 02:44PM
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I will be ecstatic if Tesoro does a remake of a Vaquero or Tejon, but adds tone ID. It would be a plus if this type of detector is able to be under water to ten feet or so. I don't think Tesoro has the financial resources to design a multiple frequency or a unit far superior to the Deleon or Cortes. I hate the saying "it is what it is", but I like what Tesoro currenty "is". Don't expect anything earth shattering, just another lightweight, well performing, reasonably priced detector. That is Tesoro's small corner of the market.

I agree totally . It would be an awesome setup on the Vaquero I wish I would have kept mine but I thought the grass was greener on the other side of the fence and went a different direction now I am in debate on another Vaquero this time with the high tone mod if Tesoro will do this still? or to get another Tejon Choices, Choices where do they stop! Not going to wait on the new release . I just cant make myself believe they will do that much improvement on what they have now . As you state their small corner of the market .

My guess is that they may be blowing out inventories on a model or models that may have their sales damaged due to a new but similar release. However, THAT should have been done a long time ago, before tax season and SUMMER!

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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: BarryL
Date: February 25, 2014 04:21PM
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I will be ecstatic if Tesoro does a remake of a Vaquero or Tejon, but adds tone ID. It would be a plus if this type of detector is able to be under water to ten feet or so. I don't think Tesoro has the financial resources to design a multiple frequency or a unit far superior to the Deleon or Cortes. I hate the saying "it is what it is", but I like what Tesoro currenty "is". Don't expect anything earth shattering, just another lightweight, well performing, reasonably priced detector. That is Tesoro's small corner of the market.

I agree totally . It would be an awesome setup on the Vaquero I wish I would have kept mine but I thought the grass was greener on the other side of the fence and went a different direction now I am in debate on another Vaquero this time with the high tone mod if Tesoro will do this still? or to get another Tejon Choices, Choices where do they stop! Not going to wait on the new release . I just cant make myself believe they will do that much improvement on what they have now . As you state their small corner of the market .

My guess is that they may be blowing out inventories on a model or models that may have their sales damaged due to a new but similar release. However, THAT should have been done a long time ago, before tax season and SUMMER!

You could be right there . But I have noticed a decline in some dealers handling the Tesoro line . I know of one here in Texas that no longer sells them due to a problem with his supplier . whoever that might be not sure I was under the assumption they received stock straight from Tesoro but apparently not .

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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: bigelow
Date: February 25, 2014 04:53PM
Anyone consider they might go PI on a prospecting machine? I love my Lobo ST but this would be interesting and maybe pull some interest from the other brand loyalists. Either way Im excited to see the new machine and here about its features.



:tesoro: Lobo ST :tesoro: Vaquero :tesoro: Silver uMax :tesoro: Compadre x2 :garrett: Propointer

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: Ivan
Date: February 27, 2014 12:20AM
No i don't think that Tesoro will give us a waterproof Lobo with P.I technology I think that is beyond their capabilities. ( But I would welcome the surprise). Let's face it simple beep and dig is all they can produce ..........they are building tape decks............. in and age of MP3's and we all know how that will turn out!!! LOL

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: Hombre
Date: February 27, 2014 08:26AM
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No i don't think that Tesoro will give us a waterproof Lobo with P.I technology I think that is beyond their capabilities. ( But I would welcome the surprise). Let's face it simple beep and dig is all they can produce ..........they are building tape decks............. in and age of MP3's and we all know how that will turn out!!! LOL

There are people out there in the music world that still prefer the pure sound reproduction of reel to reel tape decks and I heard that the LP records are favored by some. I know one thing, I like the analog one tone audio on the Tesoros, they tell me much more than the on/off digital audios on some newer detectors. There are audio differences in that one tone.. that I can tell the shape, size and depth of the detected target just by using coil technique. Tesoros also have a better iron discrimination circuit than any detector I have tried, or seen in person with a signal comparison between detectors on a un-dug target still in the ground.



" If in doubt, dig it out"

I use various analog detectors, knobs and switches rule.

Randy from south central Kansas

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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: hihosilver
Date: February 27, 2014 12:32PM
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I have been thinning things in anticipation of the new release but after all of this Hype and no response at all from Tesoro other than a name for the new product . I think I have deduced an Outcome . it will be a cross between a Golden and an Outlaw . I don't see Tesoro improving much on a Target ID Machine as they would have done it before now to stay up with the competition. Same thing as with the Outlaw it is nothing more than a revised Bandito II


Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: Ivan
Date: February 28, 2014 08:13PM
I checked into this and have found it to be true...................there are many Tesoro "resellers". You don't have to buy from Tesoro.....but then again who cares as long as the customer is looked after. .I'm more concerned with the part of your statement that says there is a marked drop off in Tesoro dealers....................this is especially true in Canada. Their brand is showing signs of wear. A new "top of the line" flagship detector would definitely revive the brand . I was also shocked to find out that one of the Gifford's sons has left.............there's more cause for concern Wow Tesoro is a ship in rough seas.

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: February 28, 2014 08:34PM
James Gifford left the company for apparent health reasons several years ago.-----That's old news & that fact alone is no reason for alarm.
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I checked into this and have found it to be true...................there are many Tesoro "resellers". You don't have to buy from Tesoro.....but then again who cares as long as the customer is looked after. .I'm more concerned with the part of your statement that says there is a marked drop off in Tesoro dealers....................this is especially true in Canada. Their brand is showing signs of wear. A new "top of the line" flagship detector would definitely revive the brand . I was also shocked to find out that one of the Gifford's sons has left.............there's more cause for concern Wow Tesoro is a ship in rough seas.


Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: Ivan
Date: February 28, 2014 09:47PM
Sorry to hear that James left for health reasons..............hope thngs go well for him.

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: fltacoma
Date: March 05, 2014 08:26PM
So I take it as no news updates yet?

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Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: Lake Hunter
Date: March 06, 2014 01:15AM
When Tesoro is ready to announce the new unit ....i'll be waiting....and until then...my other Tesoro units will keep producing more finds for me.

Tesoro still stands behind their units ... old and new..
And great customer service and lifetime warranty and built in USA... will always be #1 in my book. JMO

Re: My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
Posted by: WILL_PENNY
Date: March 06, 2014 07:11PM
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When Tesoro is ready to announce the new unit ....i'll be waiting....and until then...my other Tesoro units will keep producing more finds for me.

Tesoro still stands behind their units ... old and new..
And great customer service and lifetime warranty and built in USA... will always be #1 in my book. JMO
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And you forgot to mention, look at any classified section on any forum, any auction site and you will see far less Tesoro's for sale then any other current Metal Detector Manufacturer. That says only one thing, Tesoro makes the perfect detector and I see no reason for Tesoro to change a thing...

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