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Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Sven
Date: April 23, 2017 09:49PM
Today was my first hunt with the all new Tesoro Mojave. Finally Tesoro is starting to give us a black color scheme for their detectors. Much better than the usual cowboy brown dirt colors.
Had to satisfy my curiosity regarding the Mojave, all the forums are alive with all sorts of wild reports about its performance. In my previous post after bench testing and my box-o-dirt testing, I came away being unimpressed. To me it seemed more or less just another regular Tesoro model with different colors and features. If your used to a higher end detector with bells and whistles, target ID etc., you probably won't be impressed either. I had to step back away from comparing to my other detectors such as those bells and whistle models. Realized this Mojave was meant to be more or less an entry level detector with two main control functions, sensitivity and discrimination. Then base my findings in that regard, do a real world hunt.

Started out late today about 2PM, had about 3 hours to hunt, wife said we have dinner plans with her folks. Did give me enough time to dig like a mad man, towards the end, started to feel a slight pain in my lower back. Sucks to get older..... Ended up going to a big schoolyard that usually has some neighborhood activity within the park portion. Hunted there many times. With all the rain we had, in many areas the water table was just an inch below the surface. My feet and knees were getting wet, pretty sloppy digging. Moved off to some higher ground that was nice to dig in.

Right off will let you know I had the Deteknix wireless headphones hooked into the Mojave. Had wired ones in the car in case....
The controls were set, sensitivity, varied between 5 and full. Disc was set at midway beween foil and lowest iron setting so I could find any Canadian clad on edge, which Tesoros are good at.
To help identify a target, I used the thumbing technique, raising the disc control to see where the target was disc'd out. Never used this technique before, with the control position where it is, it just seems natural to do.

Away I went swinging the coil back and forth across the schoolyard meandering about like a lost person. Dug just about every signal to get an idea what the Mojave was telling me. For the most part, was able to determine coins would give a nice solid tight target audio signal. Found about 5 coins that were right on edge, that's what I like. One thing that drove me nuts was the inability to pinpoint very well like you normally can with a concentric coil, this mostly happens went you located some other target than a coin. What happens is lag, you pass the coil over the target, you know where it is, pass the coil over again, it may see it or maybe see it with an audio report after you pass by it. Very similar to wireless headphones having lag. I bet this is similar to those who use a Garrett Ace 250. Wanted to say, it was headphone wireless lag. The Deteknix never had any lag on any other detector in my arsenal. Switching to the wired headphones confirmed it was the wireless with lag. Switched back to the wireless to be cable free. Bet this lag thing is also similar to the Minelab Quattro that folks disliked and complained about. The Mojave is a motion detector, it retunes a surface target faster than a target that is deeper, found I had to play with the sweep speed to get a good pinpoint. Would have been nice to have a non-motion pinpoint button, pinpointing would have been very precise. Kept looking for the pinpoint button, just wasn't there. That's my biggest gripe... using a concentric coil, then would want the precision pinpointing for which they are known for. It's totally possible the filters they use to keep this detector almost dead silent (sometimes didn't even think it was turned on), motioned based detector might be the cause. Don't know.

The Mojave did very well on Canadian clad coins, deepest coin was about 5" on edge, a penny. The dimes were iffy, you sensed they were something worth digging. Like some others said, it does like US nickels, likes the older and newer Canuck ones as well. The $1 and $2 coins, you just really disc out thumbing the disc control. If they were there, you got them.

Towards the end of my hunt, sort of noticed the Mojave is not a Compadre, not a Silver but something in between those two with something from the Cibola ( in disc mode) mixed in. Just can't put my finger on it. Allan Cannon at Tesoro said it was different.

Do I like the Mojave, yes and no. For $251US street price, only two basic control functions, it does make for a good general purpose clad hunter. Haven't found any gold or silver jewelry, can't comment on that aspect. Do I have the urgency to sell off the Mojave after using it a short time, like many? Nope. Going to hang on to it, think it has potential once you learn the single tone language. Have to put more time on it. It was peacefully quiet in operation, which did make it fun learning how to use it.



Deteknix Quest Pro, Teknetics Mark 1, Nokta Impact
Self built Mirage Pi's --- they work great in trashy areas!!




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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Mega
Date: April 23, 2017 10:05PM
Sven,a good honest review on what appears to be a capable entry level detector and well suited to parks and school yards etc,only thing i am waiting for is how long will it be before you turn it into a 'Sven's Super Modified Mojave' which it will be at some stage :rofl: and then we will await your next custom project which will also happen as well :lol:



Deus and Nexus MP main everyday detectors

Displays on a Detector are really the equivalent of relying on sub-titles,give me a Analogue machine anyday.

Site specific use machines.
TDI Pro 20'' Mono
Nexus SE dual 9'' coil
Fisher TW-5 twin box
Crossbow PI Coiltek 14x9 Mono
Mirage PI 5'' Mono
DFX 18'' Detech
T2 SEF15x12
IDX Pro 15'' Concentric
Arado120b
B1 and B3
Trident11 Extreme NEL Snake


Mainly hunt deep ploughed and pasture sites,trashy roman/saxon and celtic permissions.

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: ken ward
Date: April 24, 2017 07:44AM
You sure found a lot of junk. Looks like my pile after I been out a while. I also been thumbing the disc knob for referance.
I do not have any trouble with pin pointing a coin. If I have trouble, most of the time it is junk... KEN



My Detectors : Whites Surfmaster 2,,2 Tesoro Compadre,1 Detector Pro Pirate Pro 1 Silver uMaz, 1 Fisher 1266x

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: amberjack
Date: April 24, 2017 08:45AM
beer caps with a concentric interesting... anyone been on sites with big stuff in it you know big iron or aluminium cans etc??

found the coil works well on no big stuff deep sites get on big stuff deep sites its pretty much unusable at least that's my experience ...

anyway I found a use for the detector have to try the coil on outlaw see how it goes but time and other detectors are taking its place right at this time..

keep the reports coming :biggrin: and thanks!

AJ

Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: walnut
Date: April 24, 2017 09:28AM
Seems like a lot of wrinkled junk metal in the pile.

I guess since you were testing, it does make sense to dig everything like that.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2017 09:45AM by walnut.

Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Carlos (CA)
Date: April 24, 2017 10:07AM
Great review Sven, took mine out for another test run this weekend too, and ran it with the 8 brown donut coil, and found ALOT of clad in a huge school yard that I hunt regularly with TID's.
What was great about this outing was that the good majority of clad was found on edge, anywhere from 4-6 inches (typical school yard depth coin my areas).
I had never found so many coins on edge on one outing, and am wondering if my TID's didn't quite pick em up. The Mojave however just kept signaling every few swings,
I had to finally stop from digging fatigue :^). The previous weekend I ran it in a different area with the stock 7 coil, but not many finds except several dimes at 4 to 6.
Overall, so far, I think the brown donut is a better fit for my coinshooting, I was able to swing the donut more precisely with better overlap because of the extra weight of the 8; it definitely
feels more natural. If y'all have an 8 brown donut, I highly recommend giving a try before deciding on overall Mojave capability. I had a blast running the 8 donut, and picked a record amount of coins
on edge. In addition, the ground in this school yard was slightly moist, and the dirt was black and packed in a few spots, the Mojave cut right through. :thumbup:

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Sven
Date: April 24, 2017 04:27PM
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ken ward
You sure found a lot of junk. Looks like my pile after I been out a while. I also been thumbing the disc knob for referance.
I do not have any trouble with pin pointing a coin. If I have trouble, most of the time it is junk... KEN

Unfortunately being in Canada, there's a lot of Canslaw in some, many areas.LOL
And with Canadian clad being nickel plated steel, you just never depending upon how it lays it could sound off as junk.
So I dug all the iffy signals to find out what they were and your right most hard to pinpoint items were trash and off to the side some.
On the way home hit one last spot for about 15 minutes and stopped digging the hard to pinpoint targets, surmising at that point they were junk.
I will get a better handle on how it operates, the more I use it.



Deteknix Quest Pro, Teknetics Mark 1, Nokta Impact
Self built Mirage Pi's --- they work great in trashy areas!!

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Daddy
Date: April 24, 2017 04:43PM
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Sven
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ken ward
You sure found a lot of junk. Looks like my pile after I been out a while. I also been thumbing the disc knob for referance.
I do not have any trouble with pin pointing a coin. If I have trouble, most of the time it is junk... KEN

Unfortunately being in Canada, there's a lot of Canslaw in some, many areas.LOL
And with Canadian clad being nickel plated steel, you just never depending upon how it lays it could sound off as junk.
So I dug all the iffy signals to find out what they were and your right most hard to pinpoint items were trash and off to the side some.
On the way home hit one last spot for about 15 minutes and stopped digging the hard to pinpoint targets, surmising at that point they were junk.
I will get a better handle on how it operates, the more I use it.

Sven, did you happen to experience the falsing issue that others, including myself, seem to be experiencing? - Bill



Metal Detectorist - Dig hard, and deep.

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Sven
Date: April 24, 2017 05:49PM
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Daddy


Sven, did you happen to experience the falsing issue that others, including myself, seem to be experiencing? - Bill

Some when sens was turned up into the red zone, which I thought was normal chatter seeing this happens to other detectors I use when sens is jacked up.
I was hunting wet ground at first, didn't notice any falsing. That's why I was trying to figure out what you guys are talking about.
Then I have a question, anyone else notice any lag in pinpointing a target such as I posted?



Deteknix Quest Pro, Teknetics Mark 1, Nokta Impact
Self built Mirage Pi's --- they work great in trashy areas!!

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Whimpster
Date: April 24, 2017 06:22PM
Just got off the phone with Rusty at Tesoro,explained to him my Mojave was falsing a bit when sens was turned up past 5 and into the red zone...he said it's a bit chatty when at the higher sens...said to try to run it with the toggle switch on high and see if it made a difference...it did settle down the chatter quite a bit,but it was still there...turned down the sens to 5 or under and it was quiet.
Also suggested to try another coil on the Mojave..said the brown 8" coil will give another inch in depth he has found.
Soooo I swapped the 7" coil to the 8" coil and the Mojave gave the same chatter as before at the same settings...put the 7"coil on my Silver ┬ÁMax and no chatter no falsing...
Going to try it on my Bandido ll ┬ÁMax next to see the results..
So it just maybe the nature of the little black beast....more testing will ensue:)

Whimp,

HH.



Nova Scotia, Canada

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Daddy
Date: April 24, 2017 07:03PM
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Sven
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Sven, did you happen to experience the falsing issue that others, including myself, seem to be experiencing? - Bill

Some when sens was turned up into the red zone, which I thought was normal chatter seeing this happens to other detectors I use when sens is jacked up.
I was hunting wet ground at first, didn't notice any falsing. That's why I was trying to figure out what you guys are talking about.
Then I have a question, anyone else notice any lag in pinpointing a target such as I posted?

During my two outings with the Mojave, I pretty much always used the preset sens. setting. Once in awhile, I would bump it up to 5, but not too often. The falsing would occur any time the detector experienced any kind of a bump. First thing I tried was lowering the sensitivity. When that didn't help, I checked to be sure that the battery was not loose in it's compartment. Also checked the coil connector to be sure that it was secure. Everything checked out to be a-okay. Finally, I decided to tap on the rod to see what would happen. When I did that, the falsing occurred. Every time I rapped on the rod, the detector would sound off. When I say "rap", I don't mean hit it hard. Just a little jostle like what would happen were the coil to hit a clump of grass or something while being swung. I baby my machines, and am never rough with them.

Never noticed any lag, but then again, I was more concerned about the falsing, and was concentrating more on that. I did however notice that junk targets seemed to pinpoint off center when changing my direction of approach by 90 degrees. My Sovereign did the same so I didn't really give it much thought.



Metal Detectorist - Dig hard, and deep.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2017 07:18PM by Daddy.

Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: jld66
Date: April 24, 2017 07:21PM
Good and realistic review. Still going to pass on buying one just to be in a "clique" though. When or if they can come out with an upgrade to the Vaquero, Outlaw, Or Tejon. That's when I will be interested. Sorry, don't see spending hard earned money for a down grade to the ones I have now, just to say I have one.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2017 07:51PM by jld66.

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: amberjack
Date: April 24, 2017 07:36PM
only bought it cause its black :biggrin: as for sens issues turn it up past the red screw the knob to the right till it snaps off that will fix it :lmfao: I have no idea why people want to run in to so much noise if the detector is not coping back it off a bit the boys at the club wont know if you don't tell them you weren't in the red zone :buds:

AJ



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2017 07:37PM by amberjack.

Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: walnut
Date: April 24, 2017 07:36PM
Seems like if you already have a Vaquero and a Compadre there is not much reason to buy a Mojave.

Bring back the Golden series, that would suit me.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2017 07:46PM by walnut.

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Re: Tesoro Mojave Test Drive
Posted by: Whimpster
Date: April 24, 2017 07:44PM
Daddy,

Pretty much sums up my experience with the Mojave to a tee....

Whimp,


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Daddy
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Sven
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Daddy


Sven, did you happen to experience the falsing issue that others, including myself, seem to be experiencing? - Bill

Some when sens was turned up into the red zone, which I thought was normal chatter seeing this happens to other detectors I use when sens is jacked up.
I was hunting wet ground at first, didn't notice any falsing. That's why I was trying to figure out what you guys are talking about.
Then I have a question, anyone else notice any lag in pinpointing a target such as I posted?

During my two outings with the Mojave, I pretty much always used the preset sens. setting. Once in awhile, I would bump it up to 5, but not too often. The falsing would occur any time the detector experienced any kind of a bump. First thing I tried was lowering the sensitivity. When that didn't help, I checked to be sure that the battery was not loose in it's compartment. Also checked the coil connector to be sure that it was secure. Everything checked out to be a-okay. Finally, I decided to tap on the rod to see what would happen. When I did that, the falsing occurred. Every time I rapped on the rod, the detector would sound off. When I say "rap", I don't mean hit it hard. Just a little jostle like what would happen were the coil to hit a clump of grass or something while being swung. I baby my machines, and am never rough with them.

Never noticed any lag, but then again, I was more concerned about the falsing, and was concentrating more on that. I did however notice that junk targets seemed to pinpoint off center when changing my direction of approach by 90 degrees. My Sovereign did the same so I didn't really give it much thought.



Nova Scotia, Canada

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