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Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: REVIER
Date: May 21, 2017 07:17AM
Now before you say no big deal let me tell you a few reasons why this is a very big deal...to me.

This was found in a special place, a stretch of curb strips that are unusually wide at about 15' and runs down a certain long block.
In the middle of this block is the entrance to a small old park established in 1898...the horse and buggy days.
In 1902 an extremely high end neighborhood was built around the perimeter of this park with a limited numbers of the most expensive homes at the time for the city's elite, bank owners, business owners, doctors and such.
Each was on 5 acre lots but most of that land was subdivided into smaller parcels now with some newer smaller homes built there as time went on.
There are still several of the older large original homes in there, most are marked historical.
One has recently been completely restored to its original condition, the address is #10, and if you want to buy it it is on the market right now for only about $1.8 million.
The whole thing is private so unless you knew somebody in there no hunting in the park or the big lawns or what is left of the huge backyards but the strips in front are city owned.
Because of the history of this park and neighborhood these strips have been hunted continuously and often since detectors have been invented.
I know a guy that lives in a smaller home right across the street from the entrance, he moved in in 1971 and told me he has seen legions of hunters scouring these strips since then.
Sometime one or two, sometimes whole groups but most of the old guys, the club guys, consider these things hunted out now but boy do I wish I knew what these guys found here back in the old days.
I myself have hunted here a ton because I never consider any site completely hunted out especially in my environment.
There is just too much iron, too much trash, a lot of that red dirt mineralization that just makes things hide so well to think that everything is gone completely no matter how many hunted here or how good they were.
The easy to find stuff is long gone but the not so easy targets are still around and I keep coming back trying new settings, coils, detectors and whatever else I can think of to try to find anything old that is still possible to find.
I have not found any silver here but way down at one end of the block I have dug a few wheats and other cool things like a small Tootsietoy boat.
Right in front of the entrance I found my best looking crotal bell, a beautiful cast one that still rings plus other neat stuff like a 50's watch.
This tells me most seemed to have cherry picked the high tones because those are rare but the lower conductors are still here even though 99% of them are junk and trash.
There is some modern clad here but anything older and good that comes out of this place is a huge victory as far as I am concerned and I love the challenge of visiting here when I can to try my luck as rare as that is.
Who knows, buffs, shields and V nickels might still be in play here and my dream is to come across some kind of extremely masked silver, maybe a Barber coin, and free it from its long resting place.

Yesterday, using the new Mojave in the strip in front near the entrance I found a wheatie.
It was near the street next to the old square cut rock curbs, areas I always hunt thoroughly because people getting in and out of cars tend to lose a lot of things next to these.
I have hunted in this exact spot using my F70 and at least 3 if not 4 coils, a Vaq and even my Compadre got a few chances.
Never dug this wheat but yesterday with the Mojave I got a nice, high repeating signal and dug into the very dry drought conditions dirt.
Not a huge hole but I ended up digging deep enough to hit somewhere around the hilt of my Lesche...that is about 6" if you measure it.
That is as far as I usually go in dry dirt if even that far here because it is difficult to chop your way down very far in the dry stuff and to dig any deeper I would have to make a big messy hole which I don't want to do.
I still don't know how deep the Mojave will actually go in my dirt, on the last couple hunts I went after a few nice high tones but couldn't get to them so I don't know if they were big iron deep or good coin targets...very frustrating but nice to know I am picking up signals deeper than I ever remember my Compadre doing in this mess.
We had a soaking rain yesterday so today we will try to acquire a few of those deeper ones and see what they are.
On this hole I was about to give up but on one of my last little piles of dirt I was able to scrape up out of the bottom of the hole I ran my pinpointer over the dirt and got a hit and sifted through and saw a coin.
Had to be minimum of 5" deep, might have been even past that closer to 6".
I smiled...even though I nicked the thing doing all that chopping and scraping to get to it.
There is a pretty rich layer of great really masked targets all around here at the 4-7" range for those of us that can learn to notice them...a few even at 8" which is about as far as I have been able to reach with my F70 in the bad stuff so far.
If this thing can actually hit that 6" mark here constantly I will be thrilled, if it can even get a bit deeper I will be shocked but it just might be possible.

All these reasons are why this lowly little one cent coin means so much to me.
What it represents might be huge.

I might have been able to find this coin at another time on another day with another machine but up to now I didn't..the Mojave did on its first trip and did it easily.
The depth I seem to be reaching seems to exceed my Compadre depth by at least a couple of inches but I don't really know how deep it can get on coin sized items in this dirt...yet.
So far I have found 3 great old targets in areas I know I have scoured before many times with several units and coils and this little machine found them...exactly what I was hoping for when I decided to get this one.
To find any high conductive coin in those strips as I said is a huge victory, I will keep coming back because where there is one there might be another so I still have hope some even better targets can be hiding.

This is just one little wheat cent but why it is worth way more than just one cent to me.



"What if doing the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?”
F70, F2, Compadre, Mojave, Judge2 - 2017....Clad, 15 silver targets including a freaking Barber quarter, a beautiful walker and 4 V nickels...
Plus other cool stuff.




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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: slingshot
Date: May 21, 2017 07:56AM
Nice. Where did you have the discriminator set?

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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: hatpin
Date: May 21, 2017 11:13AM
Nice write up . It makes me want to go but for health reasons I havent been able to . I hope to get out in a month or so and hit some curb strips .

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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: REVIER
Date: May 21, 2017 02:36PM
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slingshot
Nice. Where did you have the discriminator set?

I have read that most think one of the strengths of the Mojave is it doesn't seem to lose a whole lot of depth with disc.
I know my Compadre does, not a lot but on a few deeper targets over the years I did find with disc low I hit them but the signal went away when I raised the disc even though these were high conductive targets and shouldn't have directed out at all.
I hope that is true about the Mojave but I can say for sure just yet so to be safe I still hunt my usual Tesoro way most of the time with the disc low to all metal in order to get the strongest, loudest most solid signal and then thumb that k in up then back down to figure them out.
This wasn't all that extremely loud but it stayed solid thumbing all the way up and repeated from more than one way so I went after it.



"What if doing the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?”
F70, F2, Compadre, Mojave, Judge2 - 2017....Clad, 15 silver targets including a freaking Barber quarter, a beautiful walker and 4 V nickels...
Plus other cool stuff.

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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: Old California
Date: May 22, 2017 11:03PM
Good job, I would be happy too.

Congratulations!
Paul



AKA..Paul (Ca)

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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: Stoof-tabsallday
Date: May 23, 2017 12:53AM
Cool find and story. Impressive to find after running so many more machines there!!

I usually run blocking out small iron. Used to hunt at minimum but had lots of his that fell out after a touch of the disc knob lol. So I just go a little higher than minimum.
Keep on hunting!!!
I hope for many more great finds for us all this year!!



Stefan (Michigan)

Nokta Fors Relic 7x11", 5.5x10"DD, 5", 5.5x10 Concentric


Makro Racer 2 - 7x11", 5.5x10", 5" DD


:tesoro: Mojave
:tesoro: Deleon - Troy shadow super 7",
:tesoro: Compadre 8
:tesoro: Compadre 5.75
:tesoro: Bandido II Micromax
:tesoro: Outlaw
:tesoro: Cibola- GB/all metal toggle mod
:tesoro: Vaquero
:tesoro: Cutlass Micromax 8

Lots of coils

*Not listed in any special order*

Tools:
Garrett carrot, lesche shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: REVIER
Date: May 23, 2017 06:21AM
Thanks all...hunting with the Mojave seems to be as much fun and as surprising as using my Compadre so a great thing.
That extra sense knob and mineralization switch is confusing me, however, so I usually just keep it pegged and the switch on low and it seems very quiet most everywhere so far.
Simple operation for simple minds I guess. :confused:...:lol:




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Stoof-tabsallday
Cool find and story. Impressive to find after running so many more machines there!!

I usually run blocking out small iron. Used to hunt at minimum but had lots of his that fell out after a touch of the disc knob lol. So I just go a little higher than minimum.
Keep on hunting!!!
I hope for many more great finds for us all this year!!

Stoof...the way I hunt has changed over the years, at this point I am a product of all my experiences in my so many hours using these things.
On my Vaq I hunted for a long time with the disc knob a little below nickel and thought I would get most gold and silver because that us what I read on the forums.
Then one day I read a post from a hunter that stated the best thing he ever found came in at foil so I started to lower that knob down a little more in every hunt till I got down to iron.
I always thumbed the disc up and down to figure out targets but I had to acquire and hear them first to have a chance to do that.
After that knob went lower magically I started to find a lot more gold and a surprising amount of silver necklaces so that knob stayed low always after that.
Same on my Fishers.
I have found a few nice large white gold rings at the number 24 in my time so even though nowadays I rarely hunt with that one using disc higher than 0 or 1, on the few times I do raise it I never set it much higher than 21-23 and even that might still be too high.

Getting back to the Tesoros I thought hunting with the disc at about the middle of iron was safe but one day I came across this teeny tiny thin silver bracelet.
Luckily I was below iron on that hunt for whatever reason because it was there at the R in iron but at the O it was gone.





Pretty much just turned the knob down to all metal most of the time after that and still hunt that way to this day even though I now hunt in sites with way too much iron.
This tiny thing just reinforced that thinking...
I came across this gold chain which is the smallest thinnest gold chain of any kind I have ever held.



Luckily it was a zinc signal and I was digging all zincolns but it wasn't a zincoln, there was a zinc key in the hole instead and when I pulled it out of the hole I saw it was attached to a dirty small piece of string.
When I looked closer the dirt rubbed off and I was shocked to see it was a gold chain instead.
It was broke so I eventually sent it into the refiner but before did I air tested it with my Tesoros.




My Vaq with the big DD coil couldn't pick it up at all and I didn't have the sniper coil at the time to test because I suspect that might have been able to do it but I will really never know.
I tried my Compadre on it after that.
That one couldn't pick up the chain at all but the extremely tiny clasp it could easily...but only at a depth of 3" at the most.
It disced out completely halfway between all metal and the I in iron.




These really small types of targets are rare out there but I figured why take the chance, I came across these two so who knows...there could be more like these hiding out there one day.
I was usually down to all metal all the time after these experiences.
I am a creature of habit and my habits have all been learned through experiences like these.



"What if doing the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?”
F70, F2, Compadre, Mojave, Judge2 - 2017....Clad, 15 silver targets including a freaking Barber quarter, a beautiful walker and 4 V nickels...
Plus other cool stuff.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2017 06:37AM by REVIER.


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Re: Found a wheat with the Mojave...
Posted by: Whimpster
Date: May 23, 2017 01:08PM
Excellent information Revier...I had always suspected that. You just reaffirmed it :)

Thank you sir...

Whimp


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REVIER
Thanks all...hunting with the Mojave seems to be as much fun and as surprising as using my Compadre so a great thing.
That extra sense knob and mineralization switch is confusing me, however, so I usually just keep it pegged and the switch on low and it seems very quiet most everywhere so far.
Simple operation for simple minds I guess. :confused:...:lol:



I usually run blocking out small iron. Used to hunt at minimum but had lots of his that fell out after a touch of the disc knob lol. So I just go a little higher than minimum.
Keep on hunting!!!
I hope for many more great finds for us all this year!!

Stoof...the way I hunt has changed over the years, at this point I am a product of all my experiences in my so many hours using these things.
On my Vaq I hunted for a long time with the disc knob a little below nickel and thought I would get most gold and silver because that us what I read on the forums.
Then one day I read a post from a hunter that stated the best thing he ever found came in at foil so I started to lower that knob down a little more in every hunt till I got down to iron.
I always thumbed the disc up and down to figure out targets but I had to acquire and hear them first to have a chance to do that.
After that knob went lower magically I started to find a lot more gold and a surprising amount of silver necklaces so that knob stayed low always after that.
Same on my Fishers.
I have found a few nice large white gold rings at the number 24 in my time so even though nowadays I rarely hunt with that one using disc higher than 0 or 1, on the few times I do raise it I never set it much higher than 21-23 and even that might still be too high.

Getting back to the Tesoros I thought hunting with the disc at about the middle of iron was safe but one day I came across this teeny tiny thin silver bracelet.
Luckily I was below iron on that hunt for whatever reason because it was there at the R in iron but at the O it was gone.





Pretty much just turned the knob down to all metal most of the time after that and still hunt that way to this day even though I now hunt in sites with way too much iron.
This tiny thing just reinforced that thinking...
I came across this gold chain which is the smallest thinnest gold chain of any kind I have ever held.



Luckily it was a zinc signal and I was digging all zincolns but it wasn't a zincoln, there was a zinc key in the hole instead and when I pulled it out of the hole I saw it was attached to a dirty small piece of string.
When I looked closer the dirt rubbed off and I was shocked to see it was a gold chain instead.
It was broke so I eventually sent it into the refiner but before did I air tested it with my Tesoros.




My Vaq with the big DD coil couldn't pick it up at all and I didn't have the sniper coil at the time to test because I suspect that might have been able to do it but I will really never know.
I tried my Compadre on it after that.
That one couldn't pick up the chain at all but the extremely tiny clasp it could easily...but only at a depth of 3" at the most.
It disced out completely halfway between all metal and the I in iron.




These really small types of targets are rare out there but I figured why take the chance, I came across these two so who knows...there could be more like these hiding out there one day.
I was usually down to all metal all the time after these experiences.
I am a creature of habit and my habits have all been learned through experiences like these.[/quote]



Nova Scotia, Canada


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