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Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: fltacoma
Date: July 08, 2017 08:23AM
Hello everyone!

I would like to pose a question to everyone who has both newer and older Tesoro's in this forum. As you can tell by my sig block below, I mostly have the newer machines with the slats pointing downward for the speaker housing that is octagon in shape/style and lower in tone, instead of the older round hole design with the higher tones. What do you guys/gals prefer? The newer low tones models, or the older higher tones models? Take for example, the newer low tones of the Tesoro Silver Umax, vs. the older higher tones of the Tesoro Cutlass II Umax. Both are roughly identical, but I find myself drawing closer to the older Cutlass II. What say you?

-Daniel



What I have in the aresnal:

Tesoro Cibola w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Vaquero w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Silver Sabre Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Silver Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Compadre w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Compadre w/ 5.75" coil
Tesoro Bandido II Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Deleon w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Cortes w/9x8 coil
Tesoro Outlaw w/ 3 coil pack

Future Additions:

Older Tesoro Models (If I can find them in MINT condition)

What can I say, I am a die hard Tesoro man :)

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Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: REVIER
Date: July 08, 2017 10:04AM
Different strokes for different folks, all kinds of hunters out there and not everybody hears things in the exact same way or likes certain frequencies.
What one person loves another might not.

I never had any of the old ones but my first Tesoro was a high tone Vaq and I loved it...until I got a Compadre and realized I liked the lower tone better.
Still kept it that way though because using that high tone I could tell instantly when I was swinging over aluminium every time so a little superpower it had I was afraid I would lose if I converted back to the low tone.



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Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: pinenut
Date: July 08, 2017 12:04PM
Daniel, my head likes the higher tones much better. I had a Vaquero converted to high-tone and like it much more than before. My new Sand Shark has adjustable tone, and I turn the pitch all the way up. I also use my Tejon with tone up high.
I have a couple of the older models and the newer ones too. While most of the newer models are a little deeper hunters, the older high tones sound better to me. I find the standard Cibola and Vaquero tone much harder to like. Compadre, Outlaw and Mojave are a little better, but still not as nice as the really high tone of the old models. Just a matter of what you like to hear.



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Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: July 08, 2017 01:53PM
Neither as I prefer the 4 Tone's of the Golden uMax. One not enough for Me. Lol.



Etrac
CZ-3D
Golden uMax

Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: wheatymike
Date: July 08, 2017 02:05PM
I like the higher tones better. To me they are more pleasant to listen to. My old Compadre sounded like a car horn honking to me. LOL

Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: Electricfrontporch
Date: July 08, 2017 10:01PM
Im sure you could get 20 different answers from 10 people with this question.
So here's my two answers! :confused:
With headphones I definitely prefer the newer low tone.
I'm more confident in trash versus coin "sounds"
However, without headphones I think the older high tone models
sound better through the detectors speaker.
I may be crazy but that's what my ears tell me

Noah

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Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: Stoof-tabsallday
Date: July 08, 2017 10:22PM
I much prefer my older cutlass (not II) umax and my bandido II micromax to any of my new lower toned models.



Stefan (Michigan)

Nokta Fors Relic 7x11", 5.5x10"DD, 5", 5.5x10 Concentric


Makro Racer 2 - 7x11", 5.5x10", 5" DD


:tesoro: Mojave
:tesoro: Deleon - Troy shadow super 7",
:tesoro: Compadre 8
:tesoro: Compadre 5.75
:tesoro: Bandido II Micromax
:tesoro: Outlaw
:tesoro: Cibola- GB/all metal toggle mod
:tesoro: Vaquero
:tesoro: Cutlass Micromax 8

Lots of coils

*Not listed in any special order*

Tools:
Garrett carrot, lesche shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: Herb Jones
Date: July 09, 2017 12:28AM
The Lobo Super Traq has my favorite tones... next would be the B2uMax..... I prefer the higher tones, but my low end hearing has probably dropped off due to playing the bass for years.:yo:

Tesoro audio Tone options can vary.
Posted by: Monte
Date: July 09, 2017 06:13PM
Daniel,

The louvered control face plate and older metal design with holes for the speaker doesn't really have any direct relationship on Low Tone or High Tone audio designs.

You can also read the Owner Manual's to see the spec listed for the various audio output of various models, but that doesn't always mean everything, either. For example, I looked at some manuals and got the following specs:

Current Silver microMAX is 630 Hz.

Older Cutlass II and Silver Sabre II were listed at 750 Hz.

The Royal Sabre, with 2-tone audio, showed 700 Hz and 750 Hz.

The Pantera, a favorite of mine out of the 2-tone models, was 600 Hz. and 800 Hz.

The original Bandido was 625 Hz and the Bandido II microMAX is 630 Hz.

The standard 'low tone' Vaquero is 293 Hz. which, for me, is much too low for my hearing.


I had my new Vaquero modified at Tesoro to their 'High Tone' option, and it is much better, but not quite as high and pleasant as my Bandido II µMAX.

On other models, however, even though they might be listed with similar tone pitchers, they can still vary a bit due to the speaker used, the circuitry design, and let's not forget the reminder Tesoro lists in the manual with the audio frequency. It says: Approx. so we know it is going to be close, but not an exact output.

Personally, being hearing impaired and having terrible performance hearing an assortment of different frequencies in hearing exams, I definitely favor the Higher Tone models. I wouldn't keep the Vaquero in my personal arsenal if it only had that Low Tone and not the factory High Tone modification.

Monte



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My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta: Two each of the following: Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe
Tesoro: Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave
White's: MX7

Other Specialty-Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star Headphones w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg shovel and Digmaster digging tool

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Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: BarberBill
Date: July 14, 2017 02:08PM
I prefer the higher tone as in the SSumax and the Bandido II umax.
BB



North Idaho - A bunch of Tesoros, 3 Whites, Gray Ghosts, Sunray probe
If you don't dig it, you'll never know!

Re: Older Tesoro's with higher tone
Posted by: fltacoma
Date: July 20, 2017 09:23PM
Interesting replies! Barber Bill, the two machines that you listed are the two that I have also, and sadly the only ones that I have for the "higher tone" ones.



What I have in the aresnal:

Tesoro Cibola w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Vaquero w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Silver Sabre Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Silver Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Compadre w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Compadre w/ 5.75" coil
Tesoro Bandido II Umax w/ 8" coil
Tesoro Deleon w/ 9x8 coil
Tesoro Cortes w/9x8 coil
Tesoro Outlaw w/ 3 coil pack

Future Additions:

Older Tesoro Models (If I can find them in MINT condition)

What can I say, I am a die hard Tesoro man :)

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