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Outlaw
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 26, 2017 07:28PM
Just watched a few you tubes on the Outlaw. Looks like a really good machine. What do you all think?



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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: pablo61
Date: July 26, 2017 09:52PM
The Outlaw is a really good relic machine. Does a great job with iron. The discrimination does a really good job. It has the ability to discriminate out quarters. I like the 8 inch donut or 5.75 coil on it. The depth os decent. The pinpoint button takes some time to get use to.

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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: Stoof-tabsallday
Date: July 27, 2017 12:43AM
I like it.
The real no motion all metal with return is a great feature that's only on the outlaw as far as modern current production tesoros.
Yes the return button CAN take some getting used to but I find it great. Especially what it does while in disc mode but most can use it as a pinpoint button.

Because it's ed120 it handles really great in iron and runs really well all around.



Stefan (Michigan)

Nokta Fors Relic 7x11", 5.5x10"DD, 5", 5.5x10 Concentric


Makro Racer 2 - 7x11", 5.5x10", 5" DD


:tesoro: Mojave
:tesoro: Deleon - Troy shadow super 7",
:tesoro: Compadre 8
:tesoro: Compadre 5.75
:tesoro: Bandido II Micromax
:tesoro: Outlaw
:tesoro: Cibola- GB/all metal toggle mod
:tesoro: Vaquero
:tesoro: Cutlass Micromax 8

Lots of coils

*Not listed in any special order*

Tools:
Garrett carrot, lesche shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

Re: Outlaw
Posted by: pinenut
Date: July 27, 2017 01:40PM
Possibly the best Tesoro currently made for use in trashy areas. It does have a couple of "quirky" functions, but it has good depth, superb discrimination and great iron trash rejection. One of my favorite Tesoros. Not quite as deep as Tesoro's "HOT" machines, but better in trash.



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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 27, 2017 02:24PM
Thanks for all the replies.



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: July 27, 2017 10:05PM
To Bad Hombre does not Post here anymore as He was one of the Feild Testers as knows that Detector Like the back of His Hand.



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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: Mr B
Date: July 28, 2017 05:15PM
I've had one since they first came out. What real!y impresses me is how accurate the target identification is. Any detector can be fooled, but this unit is usually spot on. If you go for the three coil package it gives you a lot of options. The pinpointing on the 8 in coil is great.

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Re: Outlaw
Posted by: Stoof-tabsallday
Date: July 28, 2017 05:53PM
+1 on pinpointing with the 8.
My first Tesoro was the 8 compadre and it doesn't have a pinpoint/all metal mode. But because of that and the 8 inch coil, I rarely need to use the pinpoint button.
Just shorten my swipes until they are really small on way and beeping both passes, then swing up and down like a push pull type thing and do the same. Then the target is right inside the middle hole.
I used to do it one way then set down the coil and turn my whole body 90 degrees, but now I just do it left/right, then forward/back.
Great coil.
Great detector!!
Added bonus of the no motion on the outlaw is judging size of targets that are bigger like can slaw. Besides the tone you can also know, say if it registers as a dime but when you go to no motion all metal you can check the size. All other modern tesoros have a fast or sometimes slower auto return all metal (outlaw has it as "auto") which if it's a larger target, will return itself before reaching the other side of the target and can fool you into thinking it's smaller.
The no motion won't return automatically and will sound off at the side of the coil and continue to sound off until the opposite end of the coil is past it.
Take a little practice and easier to explain by showing.
Also with that mode you can swing over and find the approximate center and hit retune. Then the amount and size of the area it sounds off shrinks. You can then do it again and shrink it more. But too much and you may return out the target co.pletely so this, too, take a little playing with and learning.
I also have to mention that what bothers people the most about that button is that when you're done with that target you HAVE TO hold the coil in the air and hit return again to "detune" back to stock settings. Otherwise you will have issues as you continue to hunt.
Great detector. If you know Tesoro and don't mind a small amount of learning that can really pay off if you need/use the features, then you'll love the outlaw.
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Stefan (Michigan)

Nokta Fors Relic 7x11", 5.5x10"DD, 5", 5.5x10 Concentric


Makro Racer 2 - 7x11", 5.5x10", 5" DD


:tesoro: Mojave
:tesoro: Deleon - Troy shadow super 7",
:tesoro: Compadre 8
:tesoro: Compadre 5.75
:tesoro: Bandido II Micromax
:tesoro: Outlaw
:tesoro: Cibola- GB/all metal toggle mod
:tesoro: Vaquero
:tesoro: Cutlass Micromax 8

Lots of coils

*Not listed in any special order*

Tools:
Garrett carrot, lesche shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

Re: Outlaw
Posted by: NCtoad
Date: August 04, 2017 03:36PM
This has probably been asked before, but what's the performance difference between the outlaw and vaquero?

define "performance"..
Posted by: pinenut
Date: August 04, 2017 04:03PM
Performance in what way?

On depth, Vaquero will be at least an inch or two deeper almost everywhere, depending on coil size.

Outlaw has better iron trash rejection, a more convenient toggle switch for all-metal mode and it doesn't sound like a duck while pinpointing.. :spin: I like the audio tone of the Outlaw better than that of the standard Vaquero, but the "high-tone" Vaquero sounds good to me as well. If depth is your main concern, Vaquero does out-perform Outlaw. However, I usually like using Outlaw more than Vaquero as I most often hunt trashy areas...where Outlaw is the better "performer".

Another consideration - Vaquero seems to perform a bit better around EMI, and it also has a frequency shift switch, which helps when using it both around EMI and around other detectors on the same frequency (like more Vaqueros and Cibolas..).

Choice is yours, but if you routinely hunt trashy spots, you may prefer Outlaw. If trash isn't a concern and you want best depth, go Vaquero.



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Re: define "performance"..
Posted by: NCtoad
Date: August 04, 2017 07:02PM
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pinenut
Performance in what way?

On depth, Vaquero will be at least an inch or two deeper almost everywhere, depending on coil size.

Outlaw has better iron trash rejection, a more convenient toggle switch for all-metal mode and it doesn't sound like a duck while pinpointing.. :spin: I like the audio tone of the Outlaw better than that of the standard Vaquero, but the "high-tone" Vaquero sounds good to me as well. If depth is your main concern, Vaquero does out-perform Outlaw. However, I usually like using Outlaw more than Vaquero as I most often hunt trashy areas...where Outlaw is the better "performer".

Another consideration - Vaquero seems to perform a bit better around EMI, and it also has a frequency shift switch, which helps when using it both around EMI and around other detectors on the same frequency (like more Vaqueros and Cibolas..).

Choice is yours, but if you routinely hunt trashy spots, you may prefer Outlaw. If trash isn't a concern and you want best depth, go Vaquero.
Thanks Pinenut. Mostly trashy sites for me so this is what I was looking for.

Re: define "performance"..
Posted by: pinenut
Date: August 04, 2017 11:00PM
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NCtoad
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pinenut
Performance in what way?

On depth, Vaquero will be at least an inch or two deeper almost everywhere, depending on coil size.

Outlaw has better iron trash rejection, a more convenient toggle switch for all-metal mode and it doesn't sound like a duck while pinpointing.. :spin: I like the audio tone of the Outlaw better than that of the standard Vaquero, but the "high-tone" Vaquero sounds good to me as well. If depth is your main concern, Vaquero does out-perform Outlaw. However, I usually like using Outlaw more than Vaquero as I most often hunt trashy areas...where Outlaw is the better "performer".

Another consideration - Vaquero seems to perform a bit better around EMI, and it also has a frequency shift switch, which helps when using it both around EMI and around other detectors on the same frequency (like more Vaqueros and Cibolas..).

Choice is yours, but if you routinely hunt trashy spots, you may prefer Outlaw. If trash isn't a concern and you want best depth, go Vaquero.
Thanks Pinenut. Mostly trashy sites for me so this is what I was looking for.

You're welcome. Before you go buy one though... Read up on the Outlaw's "quirks".. They're of no real concern to me, but they're an issue to some people. Those "quirks" are related to using the pinpoint (detune) button, it's function in all-metal mode, and having to retune by lifting the coil up and either pushing the button in or toggling to AM and then back to disc. You need to do that quick retune whenever you've changed a setting (like moved the disc position, GB or sensitivity), OR have used the red button to pinpoint. Pushing that button in to pinpoint will "detune" the detector to lessen target response, making the target area smaller. Outlaw pinpoints like no other, getting your target dead center on a concentric coil. It's so good, you can use a probe in parks to pop a shallow coin, rather than digging a plug. Thing is, you have to lift the coil and push the button again after detuning/pinpointing. I do the quick retune whenever I've changed any setting while in disc mode; takes just a second. There's also an issue with using it in no-motion all-metal mode, where bumping/changing the disc knob will alter the GB adjustment. Again, this isn't really an issue, 'cause you shouldn't be playng with disc adjustment while in all-metal anyway. Some people get really funny about those "quirks" though, and that's something the Vaquero has none of. Vaquero is actually a little easier to learn and use than Outlaw.
Vaquero guys may disagree, but the Vaquero doesn't have as much "carachter" as the Outlaw.. :crazy:



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