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Re: Fisher And Teknetics Is Bounty Hunter Right?
Posted by: NiagracountyNY
Date: September 23, 2009 07:54AM
I have Great results in Heavy trash with my E-Trac..Also have great results going behind all my buddies picking up the coins they missed lol ..For High trash,deep targets..Minelab really does well..Ive not had the plesure of trying alot of those machines mentioned above so I cannot compare each machine.Good luck with your results.

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: September 23, 2009 09:36AM
Yes, the TRASHORO detector (w/small coil) is definitely a "good 'un"-----and then there's the Etrac (w/ 6X8 SEF or 6" Exellerator)-----and then there's the IDX Pro (w/Mr. Bill mods & 5.3 coil)-----and then there's------OH MAN, SHUT UP DEL!!!---So much ground , so many good detectors (& coils) & SO LITTLE TIME! :lmfao: :biggrin: ----------Del

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: Hombre
Date: September 23, 2009 01:19PM
Hey Dell

What about the "Headphones" thread you started awhile back?

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: September 23, 2009 05:26PM
Hey Hombre--How you doin?----The headphone thread--yes, I uncovered the startling discovery that people DO in fact use headphones!!!----Never did get an answer to my question though! :biggrin:--Think I'll stick with my SRPG's.

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: Steve(MS)
Date: September 23, 2009 08:44PM
Even though you mention stock coil, almost any detector will do better in trashy spots with a smaller coil so I would say get
a small coil for your detector of choice to start with and see how it does for you.
Other than that, you will get as many answers as there are metal detector models out there.
I know what I like but it may not work as well for someone else because my ground conditions are different than theirs.
Plus personal preferences come into play.

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: wayne_etc
Date: September 24, 2009 12:28AM
VERY well said, Steve!


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Modified Whites Classic ID

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: tab-nabit
Date: September 24, 2009 07:00AM
Agree with Steve
I hunt in some trashy areas a good bit and the small coils are typically my 1st option with whatever detector I'm swinging at the time to help minimize the number of targets compared to large coils.
Sometimes I'll tweak down the detector settings as needed and try not to over discriminate. Other times I'll go all metal and listen to as many individual targets as possible.
Another is the small coils just slow me down (I'm slow anyways) or keeps me at a slow working pace.

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: TURNMASTER
Date: September 24, 2009 09:51PM
If I upgrade to a new machine for mentioned purpose it will likely be one of the Minelabs mentioned above. Sov gt. , Safari, Explorer, probably can't afford the Etrak though.

Help us out
HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

We have seen sugustions that range from $50 to $1500. If you can afford an Etrak you can pop for a lighter machine with a 2nd or 3rd coil.

Gook Luck
Jeff

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: Shambler
Date: September 25, 2009 08:50AM
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On that note, I hunt with guys that swing F75's and T-2's. We have hunted directly under power lines, in city trash lots, and they had no trouble finding stuff... good stuff I might add.

I'm suprised at comments like this - especially if the recommendation is to use the 11" DD. Maybe your trashy environments are different than my trashy ones

It's true that you can increase the discimination on the F75 and decrease the gain and obtain a quietER detector (even under power lines haha) but both significantly effect depth. Anyone who's hunted with the F75 has found that it's a bit of a metal detecting anomaly because it does better in trash the hotter you set it. The tight footprint of the eliptical DD and the slower swing speed required because of the higher gain allow you to do better in trash. The lower the gain the faster you have to swing to get depth (easy to demonstrate to yourself in air tests) - unfortunately the faster you swing the more likely the "good" targets become part of the noise of the trash. Even if you use your Jedi detecting powers and pick that good target amongst the trash and EMI noise, you're so worn out from the mess of tones (and they are the MOST abrasive tones of any manufacturer), you're tired of detecting in 2 hours.

If you "crank it up" to allow a slower swing speed and still get some depth you become more susceptible to EMI (as well as a propensity to detect the smallest bits of trash IE: flecks of foil, earring backs, jewelers screws, etc. - causing even more noise).

I can slow way down (1/5 of the speed) with an Explorer and pick through the trash with the Pro coil while not losing any depth. You can wiggle the coil over a 10" coin and still get a signal in trash. That's not possible with the F75 because a fast swing speed is needed - AND the TID is only accurate with a full pass of the coil in trash.

Now with the 4X6 (and probably the 5" DD), you can do amazing things in the same trashy environment. I've found the 4X6 allows you to max out the settings in areas where you significantly lower those same settings with the 11" DD. You can easily get 8" with it and in trash.

Wayne - if you're seriously looking for a detector to use in trash then I'd recommend hooking up with a club and trying a few. If you were just curious - then you're probably no closer to an answer than when you posted the question :laugh:

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Very good post Shambler...N/T
Posted by: Elton
Date: September 25, 2009 09:09AM

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: September 25, 2009 10:24AM
Yes, that was a VERY GOOD post Shambler!!---------Del

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: silversmith
Date: September 27, 2009 07:43PM
Well I've written about this before, but here we go again. My old black Technetics Big Bud Pro Select 220-D, here to fore known as the thang, is marvelous in trashy areas. I have all three coils (4, 8, 10.5") all concentric (they discriminate better than others). I set it up, in these horrible areas to keep most rings and set the "Blanker" to 2". Oh yeah, kiss all strong targets good bye, 20 dollar gold pieces underneath Big Hunk wrappers.....adios, but the weaker signals down below start being detected. When I get in really really bad areas I set the "Blanker" to 4". Old Thang just kinda hunkers down and starts coughin' out the goodies. Now while doing this you're watching the digital readout for depth and target I.D.. You may have to change coils and move slower, but it'll be worth it. Now maybe I made it a little Rosier than really it is, :rolleyes: but Ol' Thang gives me an edge. I'll take an edge anytime. Now I've read some folks dissing Blankers, ain't worth a clad-dime in a Holler fulla silver dollars. But I like mine. I guess I'd better go get my cast iron helm on and get ready for the hailstorm. :yikes:

Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: tab-nabit
Date: September 27, 2009 10:07PM
You bargain a tough question since my first thoughts are to switch to a small coil for trash areas. Since I get into trash areas more often than not, I use small coils more than the stock coils.
Now since you said stock coils for trash (not depth) and I like small coils for trashy areas - I have no problems grabbing my Compadre with 5.75 hardwired coil.
Although it doesn't have the bells & whistles like my Ex-II, F-75, Vision V3 etc., the Compadre has a spot for me. Although I have small coils for all my other detectors, the stock is bigger and bigger is not always my choice for trash.

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: slingshot
Date: September 27, 2009 11:07PM
I guess I was thinking "discriminating" metal detector-which one was the best-and that's the reason I mentioned the Tracker models. It's almost as if they're seeing "thru" the trash and finding the coins-which I call it's high tone propensity.:wacko: Now that's just the first word that popped into my mind when I was considering writing a paper on the machine and I don't mean to sound know-it-all. I know it's a plastic-coated, oversized, toy-looking contraption and I also know the electronics could be put on a board 1/3 the size it is now 'cause they had the same circuit on the Tecknetics Road Runner-they just had a trimmer that split the tones at zincers. And like a lot of dectectorists, they aren't that crazy about promoting the thing-I've already been told by one techie that the only reason they keep it is 'cause it works and some people like it. But if anyone can find one at the garage sales I would urge you to get one and at least try it with the tones set as I described earlier. It absolutely blows my mind how underrated and ignored this machine is.

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Re: The best "trash searching" metal detector?
Posted by: Shambler
Date: September 28, 2009 08:51AM
This will back up the analog detector theories - I'd trade my F75 for this one.... An EXII for the iron-free sites and this for those nail gardens... wheh.





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