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Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Mtnmn
Date: February 16, 2012 07:54AM
Was just wondering how many of you guys with higher-end machines have actually hunted with someone using a modern day entry-level detector and noticed how good they have become anymore? Late last fall I finally hunted with a friend who has such a machine (The White's Coinmaster) and even though that day I was hunting with a machine costing about 4 times more not including the coil, I was truly impressed with the performance of the $180 entry-level Coinmaster. I have no doubt that other entry level detectors are just as good, if not better. Anyhow I was so impressed with the Coinmaster that when my buddy decided to upgrade???, I jumped at the chance to buy his mint condition (still has original batteries) Coinmaster.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2012 08:06AM by Mtnmn.

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher -end machines:
Posted by: WV62
Date: February 16, 2012 08:13AM
Was thinking along the same line for about a year and half, and now that I have a less dollar machine my finds are going up. For me it is the meter and the false chatter on the high end machine.

Ron in WV

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: February 16, 2012 08:14AM
It used to be that entry level machines were pretty much toys. When Garrett released thier Ace150 it was a whole new world. For the first time ever you could buy a good quality machine at an entry level price. Garrett was so successful that White's and Tesoro were forced to follow suit or lose the entire "beginner" market.

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Thound
Date: February 16, 2012 09:28AM
Entry level machines have gotten a lot better. I had an ACE-250 for a couple of years and loved it. But top end machines have gotten a lot better also so theres still a wide gap. You can't get top end performance at entry level prices. But I wished you could.

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Big Red
Date: February 16, 2012 09:41AM
What detector did tesoro follow up with to compete with the ace series in the beginner market?

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Hank68
Date: February 16, 2012 09:57AM
The ace250 is a low cost coin/ jewelry killer and a the sniper coil makes it even better!

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Mtnmn
Date: February 16, 2012 10:28AM
No, you can't get top-end performance with an entry level detector. But when figuring in 5 times the cost of an entry level detector, you are going to be lucky if you will gain much over 1 1/2 times in performance using a higher-end detector. That in itself is a real bargain for those who don't want or are unable to afford a top-end machine. At least it levels the playing field a little.

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: imi_wakaranai
Date: February 17, 2012 03:16AM
The best MDist I ever knew hunted with a Whites IDX Pro. He paid about $400 for it I, at the time, had a ML Ex II which I paid $1200 for. It was my 1st MD, granted, but this guy dug circles around me.



Jason in Okinawa Japan,

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Its the nature of most all Consumer Electronics.
Posted by: mudpuppy
Date: February 17, 2012 03:53AM
The time to get in on this sport was back in the 70's for the silver, Now, sweeping fresh drops and targets 5" on up can be a profitable and very fun excursion. There will always be a market for the high end product, But I bet the future will reside in the 400.00 price point neighborhood.
Mud



Detecting is the study of Humans interaction with topography, the untrustworthyness of pockets, and metals desire to return to the earth from whence it came.

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: MarkCZ
Date: February 17, 2012 06:44AM
I actually own a Fisher F2,
Two coil package,
$215.00 SHIPPED!

Its a surprising little detector and it is considered a entry level detector.
I never bought it for my main detector, I got it for a back up and or one for the grand kids to use (not happened yet)
If I was going Tot-lot hunting, I would use this detector over the others I have.

Mark

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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Smudge
Date: February 17, 2012 08:12AM
Part of the reason is that cheaper machines give you less information, less excuses not to dig. So you dig more targets. When you dig more targets, you dig more trash, but all also dig more of the good stuff.

High end detectors give you a lot of information that may or may not be accurate. They coax you into cherry picking more. Thats not always the best idea.



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Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: February 17, 2012 08:34AM
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Smudge
Part of the reason is that cheaper machines give you less information, less excuses not to dig. So you dig more targets. When you dig more targets, you dig more trash, but all also dig more of the good stuff.

High end detectors give you a lot of information that may or may not be accurate. They coax you into cherry picking more. Thats not always the best idea.

They also give you more depth. Some may argue that for that extra $1000 you only get 1 extra inch (just random depth number), but if a park has been worked clean with older technology and you can come in and see one more inch down, then you have a huge amount of targets nobody else has touched.

It doesn't mean lower priced detectors are "junk" or "toys", it just means they can't do as much.

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: TerraDigger
Date: February 17, 2012 04:41PM
Jason is correct. There are certain areas that a entry level machine will simply not have the capability to find anything more than shallow. Here in Idaho, one needs at least a medium grade detector to get more than 4" deep. Actually, E-Trac's are the preferred units here. Although I do pretty good with my Omega and its DD coils.

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: BarberBill
Date: February 18, 2012 01:34PM
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Big Red
What detector did tesoro follow up with to compete with the ace series in the beginner market?

Tesoro had the entry level Compadre with a 7" coil on the market long before Garrett even had the Ace 150 on the drawing board.
BB



North Idaho - A bunch of Tesoros, 3 Whites, Gray Ghosts, Sunray probe
If you don't dig it, you'll never know!

Re: Comparing entry level detectors to higher end machines:
Posted by: Shenandoah Digger
Date: February 18, 2012 07:18PM
You got that right Bill. For as long as I can remember Tesoro has made an entry level detector with very good performance.