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Nokta Impact vs Etac
Posted by: Sid in NC
Date: June 19, 2017 05:21PM
I really like the looks of the Impact, and I am considering buying one, with that being said, how does it stack up against the Etrac. I currently hunt with the Etac and I like it but would there be any advantages to having the Impact. Thanks.
Sid



Sid
Minelab Etrac, Tekenetic T2 SE, White Eagle 2 SL, Teknetic 8500B, Garrett ADS Groundhog, Garrett Pro-pointer, Predator Tool Raven 25 shovel

Re: Nokta Impact vs Etac
Posted by: shelton7522
Date: June 20, 2017 05:26AM
You can't compare it. Less iron masking and few times faster and deep enough.

Re: Nokta Impact vs Etac
Posted by: Beyonder
Date: June 20, 2017 07:44AM
It is like comparing apples and oranges. What specifically were you wanting to compare?

Sid, you'd be better off asking more specific questions
Posted by: Monte
Date: June 20, 2017 09:29AM
instead of generalizing, especially when I know a lot of people on these forums have no familiarization with any of the FBS series.


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Sid in NC
I really like the looks of the Impact, and I am considering buying one, ....
The Impact's appearance also appeals to me, but better still is how well it feels in the hand. How nicely it balances, the search coil assortment, the impressive array of adjustment functions/features that are all very simple to manipulate on-the-fly. The reliable performance the Impact provides those of us whop have learned it and use it for the hunting needs we have.

But don't buy anything based on looks alone. Tell us WHY you are considering buying the Impact? What type of hunting do you do the most? What sort of environments will you mainly be using it in?


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Sid in NC
... with that being said, how does it stack up against the Etrac.
Well, le t me start with this response: I don't and never have cared for the Minelab E-Trac. I didn't like the change to a more abrupt grip angle, and a more abrupt display angle compared to the FBS models before it. I have six or seven friends who have been using a Minelab FBS model since 2001, and when the E-Trac came out, all of them bought one as what they felt was an 'upgrade' from their Explorer II, Explorer SE and SE Pro. Within 4-6 weeks, only one kept his, but the rest of them dumped the E-Trac quickly and went back to an Explorer II. I have owned an SE Pro, 1 Explorer XS and 5 Explorer II's.

Of them all, the Explorer II was my favorite, but by that I simply mean it was my favorite of the FBS series. I didn't use them all that often or keep them around very long because their very poor balance was not good on my very bad back. Also, their main strong point was for hunting higher-conductive silver coins in low-target sites, but they were/are not all that good for lower-conductive targets, and they are also not a very good pick for the types of sites I hunt the majority of the time.

I principally Coin Hunted from early '65 through the '70s and until mid-'83 and only occasionally wandered out relic Hunting old places in rural settings. But we had some marked improvement in detector technology and design in July of '83 that made a significant change in my driving habits because I was off to the wilds of parts unknown Relic Hunting away from all the urban sprawl. Oh, I still get in my share of Coin Hunting, but the bulk of my search time is Relic hunting, and most of those older sites are quite littered with iron trash. Often in very dense amounts of nails, rusty tin and other ferrous debris.

There have been a good number of makes and models that provided me exceptional performance in those settings, and never were any of the FBS models ranking up there with the better units for dense iron contaminated sites. They have their place, and where I hunt isn't one of them.

That said, every device listed in my Regular-Use Detector Team that travel with me perform exceptionally well in my types of sites that are quite challenging due to building rubble, dense brush, and the almost ever-present ferrous trash I have to contend with. The Impact, using the right coil for the site environments, provides me all the exceptional performance I need. In short, I know what the FBS models haven't done or can't do for me, while I have faith in what my carry-arsenal can excel at.


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Sid in NC
I currently hunt with the Etac and I like it...
Okay, so what types of hunting do you do? Do you encounter very dense, closely-spaced ferrous debris at most sites, or are the places you hunt mainly grassy urban settings?

What it is about the E-Trac that you like? Maybe the better question is this: What are the shortcomings of the E-Trac that you feel need to be addressed, and with that stated do you feel the Nokta Impact might benefit you with more favorable performance where the E-Trac suffers?


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Sid in NC
... but would there be any advantages to having the Impact. Thanks.
Sid
The Impact has a lot of 'advantages' over much of the competition out there. You just need to be specific as to what application you wonder about as to how the Impact might handle it.


Question for you: Your Signature shows the following list of detectors. Minelab Etrac, Tekenetic T2 SE, White Eagle 2 SL, Teknetic 8500B, Garrett ADS Groundhog

Are these the models you have owned in the past and have progressed up to the E-Trac? Or do you still have all these keepsakes? There's only one out of that bunch I would care to own, and have in recent years, to fill my primary search needs, if it had a 5" coil mounted, but otherwise none of your listing would be a benefit to me nowadays. But it is a good thing to have two or three or more detectors in your arsenal that can complement each other, so maybe the Impact is one more you could add to your listing? It is a versatile detector and easy to learn and use.

Monte



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My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta:
Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe (Using mainly the 'OOR', 5", 4X7½, 5X9½ open-frame DD's or 7" Concentric coils as needed. Other coils on-hand.)
Tesoro:
Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave (With either a 6" or 7" Concentric coil in use, or maybe 8X11 DD on the Vaquero.)

Other Specialty Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet'.

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Re: Nokta Impact vs Etac
Posted by: sprchng
Date: June 21, 2017 10:41AM
The Impact will be more like your T2se on steroids with a few extra modes than anything else.
In essence you will be replacing the T2 more than the etrac.
Again , they complement each other well.



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Re: Sid, you'd be better off asking more specific questions
Posted by: Tom_in_CA
Date: June 21, 2017 10:22PM
Sid, you are very fortunate to get feedback from Monte. His inputs are well-thought-out. And come from many years experience.


Yes the E-trac is a good machine for cherry-picking silver from old-town turf. But no, it's not keen on seeing in/through iron-ridden ruins/ghost-townsy sites.

I just had my Explorer II at a ghost town site and struggled to get perhaps 7 or 8 conductive targets in an hour. Then went back to my truck and fetched my Tesoro Banito, and quickly netted 10 targets in 45 min. IN THE EXACT SAME ZONES. But, conversely, the story would have been different if I was comparing the two machines in deep-turf scenario.

So your question needs to be refined. Perhaps you simply need various machines for various jobs :)

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Re: Nokta Impact vs Etac
Posted by: amberjack
Date: June 24, 2017 08:32AM
single freq detectors are faster its just physics less processing etc.. fast is the new deep. :wave:

AJ

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