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And the winner is.......
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 14, 2017 09:55AM
I buried a clad quarter in my yard at 12". There is little mineralization or EMI. Thought I'd try all three of my machines (see below). Each one was maxed out to the best of my ability, and each had the standard coil (Deus with 11"). Standard programs as well as custom were all tried as was pinpointing. All frequencies were tried for the two machines that have a choice.

Results:
V3i.................intermittent weak beep, no VDI, no bars. Prob would not have noticed during hunting.

CTX 3030.....Target circle in the right place, no VDI, no sound, no red build-up at all. Would not have noticed during hunting.

Deus.............Weak hits on Goldfield and my custom program. If you were going slow you MIGHT have stopped to check them out, especially Goldfield.

Just my yard, my conditions, my settings, my skill. Your mileage may vary.



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 14, 2017 05:22PM
And here is a result I can't even believe.....the 9" HF coil at 28 khz hit it better than all the others! Impossible but there it is. Good sound and a semi-accurate VDI. Admittedly, it was jacked up to a very sparky level, one you wouldn't run with, but it did it.
Amazing.



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: RolandDeschain
Date: July 14, 2017 05:38PM
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Architex
And here is a result I can't even believe.....the 9" HF coil at 28 khz hit it better than all the others! Impossible but there it is. Good sound and a semi-accurate VDI. Admittedly, it was jacked up to a very sparky level, one you wouldn't run with, but it did it.
Amazing.

Interesting, the round or elliptical ?

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 14, 2017 06:02PM
Round. I'm pretty sure most will not believe my results so if you have the 9" round HF I strongly suggest you try it for yourselves. I would love to hear your results.



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: sprchng
Date: July 14, 2017 09:37PM
That just tells me they should have made an 11" HF instead of two 9".

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: July 15, 2017 06:05PM
The standard coils 9 and 11 will hit silver better at depth than clad coins. I have a 10 inch clad quarter and it will hit it but it likes the 12 inch half silver, around 10 inch silver merc dime it will hit too. This is in a test garden with a ton of emi. I don't have the 9 hf coil but I got the 5 x 8 coming this week sometimes and will put it through some test. btw ive gotten my 9 inch coil to hit a 14 inch largie before in my garden. In my soil the which is sandy light soil the deus had just a little edge over the ctx on depth.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2017 06:07PM by calabash digger.

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Architex
Date: July 15, 2017 07:46PM
Glad to hear the impossible, or at least unlikely, has happened to someone else. Thought I had done something wrong.
:beers:



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: July 16, 2017 03:19PM
Those nine inch deus coils are something special. I had 15 inch attack coil for my at pro and a 13 inch tornado too and the deus nine will get better depth than those on the at pro. I always heard the bigger the coil the better the depth which is true., but deus coils can increase transmit power unlike others and imo that why they are so deep . I wish they would put a tx setting of 4 on them lol

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 01:33PM
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Architex
And here is a result I can't even believe.....the 9" HF coil at 28 khz hit it better than all the others! Impossible but there it is. Good sound and a semi-accurate VDI. Admittedly, it was jacked up to a very sparky level, one you wouldn't run with, but it did it.
Amazing.

What machine did you use the 9" HF coil on? The V3I?

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: July 17, 2017 05:52PM
I believe hes talking about the new deus hf 9 inch coil.

Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: USMC Reaper
Date: August 02, 2017 02:03PM
Any idea how to fix that ctx problem I've noticed that a few times. I hate to think what I've might've missed because of that. Thanks.

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Architex
I buried a clad quarter in my yard at 12". There is little mineralization or EMI. Thought I'd try all three of my machines (see below). Each one was maxed out to the best of my ability, and each had the standard coil (Deus with 11"). Standard programs as well as custom were all tried as was pinpointing. All frequencies were tried for the two machines that have a choice.

Results:
V3i.................intermittent weak beep, no VDI, no bars. Prob would not have noticed during hunting.

CTX 3030.....Target circle in the right place, no VDI, no sound, no red build-up at all. Would not have noticed during hunting.

Deus.............Weak hits on Goldfield and my custom program. If you were going slow you MIGHT have stopped to check them out, especially Goldfield.

Just my yard, my conditions, my settings, my skill. Your mileage may vary.


Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Dan-Pa.
Date: August 06, 2017 09:50AM
Now find a quarter that's been buried 50-100 years...might open your eyes.....

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: August 06, 2017 04:14PM
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Dan-Pa.
Now find a quarter that's been buried 50-100 years...might open your eyes.....
I got a question what do you mean by that statement ?? I have heard statements like that before alluding I believe to that machines WONT hit them as good ?? Is that what you meant too?? If not please disregard and this is for others to answer.. I still trying to figure out how to test that theory as I don't know the exact spot where any coins are off hand that have been buried that long (I have never seen a video of anyone testing that theory either so where did that theory start?) . I have heard the halo effect theory too .. I will show a couple I have found in the wild that have come from extreme depths the first was 9 and for its size that's very deep and the second was 9 or 9 1/2 , and I wont post them but I have personally dug a wheat 11 inchs and watched my buddy do the same and yes I know how to measure I used to be a carpenter. The deus is the deepest detector ive seen in my soil tested against ctx, aka sorex pro which is very close, etrac, racer 2, nokta relic,at pro, at gold, mx sport, .. . I know freshly buried target test are open for debate and some say minelabs get deeper on old targets buried never been able to test that theory either so don't know if its true or not.. I do like to test things because some things in detecting are myths just busted one the other day about a setting on the deus. I got another one , usally the bigger the coil the better the depth correct and a a 9 inch coil should only hit a target around 8 or 10 inchs to old school figuring. When I started testing the deus with the 9 inch coil and was showing the extreme depths I had a man basically say yeah right! . Why ? I think because they were stuck in the old tech where a 9 inch coil wasn't even capable of doing that and when he saw it hitting targets up to 14 inchs couldn't believe it and going way beyond its nine inch dimension. If I took your statement wrong then please disregard and this post is for the others that make those statements and mean that machines wont ,cant , or have a hard time finding deep stuff that's been buried for a long time. Lets see some real world testing to back those kinda statements up. I mean I have found colonial shoe buckle at 13 inchs and other items at extreme depths , what makes coins different?? If that theory was true then how did I find these items or how does anyone find old items that are deep for that matter?? Don't make no sence to me but hey what do I know... is that another metal detecting myth ?????




Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: Dan-Pa.
Date: August 09, 2017 09:49AM
Digger recently buried coins won't ID as deep so your results ballpark at best ought to cover it....

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Re: And the winner is.......
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: August 09, 2017 04:26PM
got cha I took what you said wrong , I heard others make statements about what I was taking about above. Just trying to find my way in the detecting world.

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