Bryce and Big Fang --
I read your posts here with great interest, the ones related to differentiating the partially-masked coins (deep coins next to nails), vs. deep nails "falsing," but with no coin.
I have finally gotten good at telling the difference between a pure false and a pure coin, BUT -- I have NOT gotten good at picking out the coins FROM AMONGST the iron (i.e. what is a "good-sounding" false, vs. what is a nail/coin that is "acting much like" a false).
What I mean is, I know what "falses" sound like, in general. BUT -- every time I try to dig a "more-than-likely-to-be iron false" sound, thinking it sounds JUST GOOD ENOUGH to maybe be a coin, it is --100% of the time, for me -- a NAIL (usually, a bent one).
So, I have to agree with Fang on this one...chasing deep "iffies," mixed with nulls, for me -- results in nails.
Bryce, your method you described matches almost exactly what I do -- i.e. passing right over the
obvious falses, investigating
for a couple of seconds the "slightly better sounding" falses, until they become obvious falses, and then I walk, but then, on the
REALLY intriguing "iffies," doing the 360 degree turn around the target, with the "Minelab wiggle," listening for repeatability and consistency. Now, when doing this, you say that if it repeats a good, consistent sound for you from 2 of 4 directions, you dig. For me, if it repeats from two of four directions, I DON'T dig, especially if those "two directions" are directly opposite sides of the "compass" from each other (i.e. the "repeats" are north and south, and the "nulls" are east and west, or vice versa). I DON'T dig these, as, again,
100% of the time, these have been nails,
for me. IF it repeats from 3 of 4 directions,
and IF there is not a consistent null in that one "bad" direction, then I will dig, and have had some success doing so, on occasion. But if it nulls consistently in one or more directions, I have never had it be a coin. Ever. Also, I have tried those hits that repeat from only one direction, but sound REALLY GOOD from that one direction (again, as long as there are not "nulls" from the other directions), and again, 100% of the time, nail. So, while it would be easy to conclude that I have learned to do a great job of "not digging" nails, the problem of course is that I also
never dig those coin/nail combined targets!I KNOW that if I want to hit a "masked" coin, that I WILL have to dig hits that null in
at least one direction;
I fully expect that this is what a co-located coin/nail will do. BUT, as of yet, I haven't been able to have any success at all, doing so, which tells me I'm digging the WRONG "iffies," and not hearing the subtleties that I need to hear which hint that a coin/nail may be a bit higher probability, vs. just a bent rusty nail.
One question -- are you doing this technique, Bryce, with the 10x12 SEF, and NOT the Pro coil? That could be some of the difference (I use the Pro coil), and if so, that's enough reason for me to consider the 10x12 SEF. Fang -- I assume your "inability" to succed with the SE Pro was with the Pro coil? I know, Bryce, that you have said you like the SEF "much better in iron;" is this maybe what you are referring to exactly, where the difference lies between the two -- in separating the "PURE" nail falses, from the nail/coin targets?
Thanks,
Steve
Minelab Explorer SE Pro, Fisher Gold Bug Pro (DP)
Garrett ProPointer
Lesche 38D "King of Spades"
Norman, OK
12
"Quote ME"
...but I check that false/chirp real fast...and in that quick pass or 2 with the coil I decide whether to walk or to investigate further.
. I do dig a few rusty nails every now and then BUT I made the choice to give it a shot before I dug the already iffy signal.
CTX 3030, 
V3i, 
Cibola/modified
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