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Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 11:45AM
I'm just curious if anyone thinks Minelab will put out a land detector that uses the technology of the CTX 3030 that would be for
land detecting like the E-trac?

Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: July 17, 2017 12:34PM
Yes! It's called the CTX3030! :wiggle:

Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: pasttom
Date: July 17, 2017 12:37PM
How is the CTX NOT the replacement for the E-Trac? What is it lacking that you are looking for? I used an SE Pro for years and traded it off (kinda sorry I did). I have a CTX I picked up about 6 months ago and then bought a neat Explorer 2 as an affordable back up FSB machine. I can't see a need for the machine you are asking about. Tony, what am I missing? Price?



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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 12:58PM
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pasttom
How is the CTX NOT the replacement for the E-Trac? What is it lacking that you are looking for? I used an SE Pro for years and traded it off (kinda sorry I did). I have a CTX I picked up about 6 months ago and then bought a neat Explorer 2 as an affordable back up FSB machine. I can't see a need for the machine you are asking about. Tony, what am I missing? Price?

I don't need to lug around a 100 pound water detector.
Why can't Minelab make a super light land detector that uses the CTX software and doesn't put me in the poor house to buy it? Besides, I'm not a professional metal detectorist. I don't make any money at this.
It's always been just a hobby. Why should I spend $2,500.00 to HOPEFULLY find one silver dime every so weeks?

Yes, the price is outrageous. Personally, they think they are the only kid on the block. I wish Fisher or Whites would come out with a detector that surpasses Minelab and gives better competition.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2017 01:09PM by Tony N (Michigan).

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 12:59PM
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IDXMonster
Yes! It's called the CTX3030! :wiggle:

The E-trac is not a water detector. The two are not in the same ball park.

Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: July 17, 2017 04:48PM
I would like to see an ET 2 but that is unlikely to happen . It should but its unlikely .
I had the CTX but didn't like it , too heavy , too cumbersome and the menu is a pain . No manual in the box . Hate bungees and shouldn't need to use one , hate using arm straps to stop the machine falling backwards away from your arm. Dont like 2 piece stems , spares are very expensive and the machine too .
Did not see any improvement on the ET except for waterproofing and that at first was dubious due to leaky seals and things .

I think Minelab need to invest in a whole new range , but all we see is new Gold machine after another . So that send one message to most people and that is why on digs and rallies in the UK there is a 90% saturation of XP's .
Minelab have gone the way of the Dodo on the relic front , i hope they dont on the beach front .



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 plus 15x12 inch coil (ordered) plus 1 x 800 maybe? (THAT DEPEND ON WET SALT BEACH CAPABILITY) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 07:20PM
I got a feeling Minelab should replace some engineers for some young geniuses like Tesla. Either that, they already have metal detectors that are way more advanced than what we have now but subsist on feeding the peasants crumbs to keep them happy.

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Nuke em
I would like to see an ET 2 but that is unlikely to happen . It should but its unlikely .
I had the CTX but didn't like it , too heavy , too cumbersome and the menu is a pain . No manual in the box . Hate bungees and shouldn't need to use one , hate using arm straps to stop the machine falling backwards away from your arm. Dont like 2 piece stems , spares are very expensive and the machine too .
Did not see any improvement on the ET except for waterproofing and that at first was dubious due to leaky seals and things .

I think Minelab need to invest in a whole new range , but all we see is new Gold machine after another . So that send one message to most people and that is why on digs and rallies in the UK there is a 90% saturation of XP's .
Minelab have gone the way of the Dodo on the relic front , i hope they dont on the beach front .

Minelab needs to get rid of their engineers and hire some Tesla like young blood.
Who wants to lug around some behemoth detector? Oh, they say, "I spent close to $3,000.00 on a detector and I found some wheat back pennies or a silver dime!" LOL.
It is possible they already have detectors that are way beyond what we have already but they are content to feed the peasants a few crumbs every 10 years to keep them happy.
Maybe if we revolt and buy super light Deus' or the multi-frequency AKA Sigmun, they will have a change of heart?



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2017 07:40PM by Tony N (Michigan).

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: lytle78
Date: July 17, 2017 09:45PM
Funny about metal detectors.

They try to figure out what you want to dig up - out of the maze or returned signals from the wildly variable mix of ground and target signals which the detector has to analyze and report to you.

Some Folks I know are short an arm, leg or eye - or maybe life - because the smartest engineers working the problem couldn't make a machine which could find the tiny firing pin, the only non metallic part in the mine which blew them up.

Give the engineers and designers a break - it's a tough problem!



Rick Kempf



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2017 09:45PM by lytle78.

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 17, 2017 09:55PM
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lytle78
Funny about metal detectors.

They try to figure out what you want to dig up - out of the maze or returned signals from the wildly variable mix of ground and target signals which the detector has to analyze and report to you.

Some Folks I know are short an arm, leg or eye - or maybe life - because the smartest engineers working the problem couldn't make a machine which could find the tiny firing pin, the only non metallic part in the mine which blew them up.

Give the engineers and designers a break - it's a tough problem!

I think they need to give us a break. Paying almost $3,000.00 for a sub-par detector is a bunch of baloney.

Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: July 17, 2017 10:32PM
Tony,this might be going slightly off track as far as what you want out of detecting,as opposed to what you are willing to pay to do it. A gallon of milk at my local store costs 3.29. I don't want to pay that. I have choices. I can begrudgingly pull out my wallet,or...not buy it. Cereal tastes like @#$%& with water. So I buy it.
Capitalism, unfortunately, doesn't give a single rats ass about what people WANT to pay. Also, capitalists don't have ANY reason to sell something for a penny less than what a satisfactory number of customers are WILLING to pay.
COULD Minelab put together a feather light machine(something I'm not sure they have EVER done)? Maybe. To say that their engineering team is inadequate(or ANY detector companies engineering team is inadequate for that matter) is seemingly driven by your frustration about primarily the price,followed by perhaps the weight.
I can tell you for sure...for the CTX with stock coil,UR-30 phones and WM10(standard pack?) I paid NOWHERE NEAR 3,000$. Yes,brand new. I won't give specifics because it varies a bit amongst dealers and I won't float any pricing info as it may have changed up or down since I bought mine last year.
Lastly....if you have hammered the living snot out of your areas for the last 40 years, don't expect the CTX to be some sort of magician at getting those places flowing again. In certain types of ground IF you had been using only single freq machines before...maybe. But you haven't. Your real dilemma is finding places that actually have coins in them anymore. That's EVERYONES dilemma. Without getting onto private property you're just going to have to get really lucky. CTX or CTX-Lite....the coins have to be there to begin with.

Good luck my friend!

Kevin

Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: July 17, 2017 11:50PM
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Tony N (Michigan)
I got a feeling Minelab should replace some engineers for some young geniuses like Tesla. Either that, they already have metal detectors that are way more advanced than what we have now but subsist on feeding the peasants crumbs to keep them happy.

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Nuke em
I would like to see an ET 2 but that is unlikely to happen . It should but its unlikely .
I had the CTX but didn't like it , too heavy , too cumbersome and the menu is a pain . No manual in the box . Hate bungees and shouldn't need to use one , hate using arm straps to stop the machine falling backwards away from your arm. Dont like 2 piece stems , spares are very expensive and the machine too .
Did not see any improvement on the ET except for waterproofing and that at first was dubious due to leaky seals and things .

I think Minelab need to invest in a whole new range , but all we see is new Gold machine after another . So that send one message to most people and that is why on digs and rallies in the UK there is a 90% saturation of XP's .
Minelab have gone the way of the Dodo on the relic front , i hope they dont on the beach front .

Minelab needs to get rid of their engineers and hire some Tesla like young blood.
Who wants to lug around some behemoth detector? Oh, they say, "I spent close to $3,000.00 on a detector and I found some wheat back pennies or a silver dime!" LOL.
It is possible they already have detectors that are way beyond what we have already but they are content to feed the peasants a few crumbs every 10 years to keep them happy.
Maybe if we revolt and buy super light Deus' or the multi-frequency AKA Sigmun, they will have a change of heart?

Minelab already got rid of many people that knew what they were doing . Getting taken over by Codan and having shareholders has done a lot of harm . They need people that know detecting , young or old . The best companies that do the most business in the relic side have this . Minelab used too .



Uses = Minelab E.Trac , Minelab Explorer 11 (might sell) , Minelab Explorer XS , Minelab Equinox 800 plus 15x12 inch coil (ordered) plus 1 x 800 maybe? (THAT DEPEND ON WET SALT BEACH CAPABILITY) , Garrett Probes , Gray Ghost/ Nugget Busters

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 18, 2017 07:52AM
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Nuke em

Minelab already got rid of many people that knew what they were doing . Getting taken over by Codan and having shareholders has done a lot of harm . They need people that know detecting , young or old . The best companies that do the most business in the relic side have this . Minelab used too .

I didn't know they got taken over and got rid of many people. Let's hope they do the right thing.

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: lytle78
Date: July 18, 2017 07:55AM
Their mechanical design on recent machines has been strange. The CTX woes are well known, leaking, display issues, etc. the GPC has the speaker on the wromg side for right-handed users, short headphone cord, annoying arm cuff which collapses and vunerable "knuckle" at coil connection - the Go Find was a total disaster and the head of Minelab North America who championed the idea was fired.

Imhave wondered for a while if their mechanical design is outsoirced to another company - one which knows nothing about detectors.



Rick Kempf

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 18, 2017 11:43AM
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lytle78
Their mechanical design on recent machines has been strange. The CTX woes are well known, leaking, display issues, etc. the GPC has the speaker on the wromg side for right-handed users, short headphone cord, annoying arm cuff which collapses and vunerable "knuckle" at coil connection - the Go Find was a total disaster and the head of Minelab North America who championed the idea was fired.

Imhave wondered for a while if their mechanical design is outsoirced to another company - one which knows nothing about detectors.

They probably told the head of Minelab of North America to "GO FIND" a new job after the "Go Find" detector was a loss. :clapping:

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Re: Will Minelab put out a detector like the CTX 3030 to replace the E-trac?
Posted by: Southwind
Date: July 18, 2017 11:56AM
Honestly, who is paying $2,500 for a CTX 3030? You can get them much cheaper than that. Darn near half that. I owned several CTX 3030's and never paid more than $1,800 for any of them.

I thought the CTX 3030 felt much lighter than the E-Trac.

Without a doubt the target ID is more accurate and at a great depth.

I'd call it an improved E-Trac II



The real treasure is in the hunt...



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 12:20PM by Southwind.

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