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Separation of church and state aside...
Posted by: Steve(Can)
Date: November 02, 2017 09:17AM
...certainly Vlad, but to illustrate the point, you can take the argument to the point of absurdity. For example, if you wanted, I suppose, you could start your own church and congregation and replace the standard stations of the cross with depictions of key events in Washington's life, ya know, chopping down the cherry tree, crossing the Delaware, praying at Valley Forge....

The point being, there is a place for patriotism and rightfully honouring the founders of the nation and a place for honouring and worshiping God and possibly some odd things begin to happen when the two get mixed up and confused. Just saying.

Closer to the point, maybe, I did not attend church last week, or the week before, or for quite a lot of weeks before that, the people at this Episcopal Church did, so what do I have to say about it? Nothing. In this great country, each of us is free to worship God according to the dictates of our own conscience, each of us is free to believe how and what we honestly believe, and each of us is free not to believe at all. At this church there are four women pastors, at other churches the pastors are all men and women are not allowed in a place of leadership. In some churches, they have statues of Mary and Joseph and Jesus, in other churches they are adamant that these are a form of idolatry.

Gosh for hundreds of years, people have been disembowled and skewered on fence posts over all of this, and there's still a bunch of rabid nutcases that are willing to blow themselves and others up over religious differences. But not here and not now.

So if you want to attend a church that worships a God that ferociously loves and protects us like a mother bear, go for it. You want attend a church with George Washington stations of the cross, hey, what's that to me or anybody else?






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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2017 09:27AM by Steve(Can).



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Here is the text of a letter I sent to the Episcopal Church, USA regarding the decision to remove plaques commemorating RE Lee and G Washington from their church:

Greg (E.Tn)241November 01, 2017 09:04PM

Churches all over in Europe and even the U.S., have already removed statues of Saints, crosses, pulpits, and altars, so as to not offend our new illegal immigrants of Islam. URL

bulletman79November 02, 2017 06:18AM

Commendable, very Christian! :clapping:

Steve(Can)82November 02, 2017 02:01PM

Re: Commendable, very Christian! :clapping:

hawgdawg76November 02, 2017 02:35PM

It always seems that way, Hawgdawg, don't it. :lol:N/T

Steve(Can)60November 02, 2017 02:38PM

Thanks Bulletman.

Greg (E.Tn)74November 02, 2017 10:26AM

Re: Churches all over in Europe and even the U.S., have already removed statues of Saints, crosses, pulpits, and altars, so as to not offend our new illegal immigrants of Islam.

doc holiday23265November 02, 2017 09:53AM

Poland has resisted the EU's open border immigration. They hold steadfast and have constantly told the EU to "stick it".N/T

bulletman146November 02, 2017 11:52AM

Video: The Polish people marched against Muslim immigration. It was the largest march in Polands history. I believe it was 150,000 strong! We should learn a lesson from the Polish people.

bulletman147November 02, 2017 12:07PM

Now as you've pointed out on a number of occasions, bullets, you are Jewish...

Steve(Can)91November 02, 2017 02:24PM

I haven't seen any Christians or Jews involved with MASS killings lately??

bulletman152November 02, 2017 07:19PM

Fair enough. Out of interest and while I've got you on the line, Bulletman, from your perspective was Hitler a Christian?N/T

Steve(Can)49November 02, 2017 10:27PM

He was not

vlad68November 03, 2017 12:34AM

Thanks Vlad. Still interested in hearing BM;s perspective.N/T

Steve(Can)63November 03, 2017 07:56AM

Re: Thanks Vlad. Still interested in hearing BM;s perspective.

bulletman149November 03, 2017 08:49AM

Yeah, you and Vlad sum it up pretty well... Jpeg Attachments

Steve(Can)75November 04, 2017 12:46AM

Thanks Steve. You are 100 percent correct, and I didn't want to be the one "pointing the finger" at one of the two churches that collaborated with Hitler!N/T

bulletman44November 04, 2017 11:15AM

Given the history, what i don't understand, Bulletman...

Steve(Can)66November 04, 2017 11:57AM

The Jewish people have been fighting for their existence for thousands of years against Egypt, the Arabs, and now the Muslims. Why should we give in and allow them to terminate our existence???

bulletman60November 04, 2017 02:21PM

While 0bama did not list Israel as terrorist he treated them as a cancer to be excised Gif Attachments

vlad45November 04, 2017 04:38PM

I understand, bulletman

Steve(Can)51November 04, 2017 04:20PM

Here is a question for you Steve... well for actually any one here

Mikie52November 04, 2017 06:02PM

Re: Here is a question for you Steve... well for actually any one here

calfrope60November 04, 2017 08:43PM

Thank You Mikie. Just to think that Israel only "defends" itself from its neighbors. We have never provoked anything!!!N/T

bulletman119November 04, 2017 07:06PM

Dead on, Mike

Steve(Can)38November 04, 2017 06:24PM

Mikie in your normal fashion-you just said it better than anybody. :biggrin:

vlad50November 04, 2017 06:11PM

Odd thing Steve to see a country defending their existence

vlad51November 04, 2017 06:00PM

Steve: A constant nagging within my mind. You remind me of my father , who is a pacifist jew.

bulletman64November 04, 2017 03:26PM

Actually, Bulletman, it was one of the things that I always thought was kind of different about you...

Steve(Can)50November 04, 2017 04:34PM

Separating church and state is one thing...... Gif Attachments

vlad63November 02, 2017 09:05AM

Sorry Greg, I was going to post on this earlier, but didn't bother...

Steve(Can)82November 01, 2017 09:52PM

Separation of church and state does not apply here-only to the government Gif Attachments

vlad93November 02, 2017 12:25AM

Separation of church and state aside...

Steve(Can)81November 02, 2017 09:17AM

Are the great men depicted as servants of God strong in his influence?

vlad67November 02, 2017 10:02AM

Good points, Vlad, saints and patriarchs, interesting...N/T

Steve(Can)60November 02, 2017 10:09AM

Jesus........

vlad77November 01, 2017 09:30PM

Re: Here is the text of a letter I sent to the Episcopal Church, USA regarding the decision to remove plaques commemorating RE Lee and G Washington from their church:

hawgdawg145November 01, 2017 09:21PM

Hawgdawg....

Greg (E.Tn)88November 02, 2017 10:34AM



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