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Re: From Fisher CZ to Minelab Sovereign
Posted by: Critterhunter
Date: January 22, 2012 12:27PM
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[you have to reground balance from wet to dry sand and you dont with the BBS/FBS detectors. Thats a real plus right there alone, what a time saver.

My money is on the Sovereign or Excal as you do a test in various soil or sand types. BBS means it's going to cut thru the minerals and salt no matter where you are at, where as conventional ground balance can have real problems with certain ground matrixs. If the ground changes slightly then watch how the performance of any detector on the market will falter, unless you do a ground balance right there where you are doing the test on a buried target. I know some machines have ground tracking but I've found conventional tracking really had an impact in getting less depth on any machine I've used it on. As most of us know, BBS technology is not "auto tracking" in any sense of the word. It uses a very different approach to compensating for the ground signal, which is why they get amazing depth in the worst of grounds and a more true ID at depth.There's a reason why Excals and Sovereigns are known as king of the beach.

That test wasn't exactly apples to apples, either...being that the Fisher was using a larger coil. I've found the 12x10 is a good bit deeper than the 10" Tornado and is able to run at higher sensitivity settings. I'd like to see you do the test with that coil, and make sure you sweep the Sovereign or Excal around for a few minutes before testing it so the machine has compensated for the ground. I've found when testing buried dimes with my GT that if I go right to the target after turning the machine on the results are not as good as when I sweep the coil around for a little bit.

One other thing I've always harped on is that maxing out the sensitivity doesn't always equal best depth. There have been times when I found say 1:30PM on the dial was deeper, even though say 11PM was stabile. That's why I always stick a silver dime in the ground at about 7" and then play with the sensitivity until I get the easiest target ID. More often that not it ends up being about 1:30 to 2PM on the sensitivity dial. I've seen targets null at times when I've ran to edge edge of stability with the sensitivity dial.

Also, just like that CZ21 is probably deeper than the various older models of the CZ, the GT is said to be a bit deeper than older Sovereigns, which in turn I would guess means than the Excal too.



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Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2012 12:41PM by Critterhunter.


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synthnut164January 23, 2012 05:17PM

I hear ya Jim

therover124January 23, 2012 05:59PM

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Critterhunter139January 23, 2012 09:54AM

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Critterhunter154January 23, 2012 11:46AM

Critter...wiggles and waggles are totally different than coil control and overlap

therover137January 23, 2012 03:35PM

yes Jim I like the E-Trac too

Rick(ND)175January 23, 2012 10:24AM

Test results for depths on coins and rings consist of many factors.

Ron from Michigan176January 22, 2012 11:00PM

Ron summed it up

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Jim, correct me if I am wrong

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