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Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: November 04, 2015 07:14PM
I would like to see some homemade scoops made out of aluminum, stainless steel or just plain steel. I know you have them out there, give us a chance to see them.
Particularly interested in hole design, handles and handle angles, and the gauge of the metal.

Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: November 07, 2015 07:19PM
I believe most commercial SS scoops are made with 14 gauge, what gauge do you need for aluminum to handle the rocks etc.

Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: Saltshaker
Date: November 29, 2015 08:46PM
I bought and primarily use a SS diamond head scoop but I designed a flat bottom diamond head scoop for certain applications which has worked out great. Its good for clay and or flat hard type bottoms but also good for fresh drop searching since its a bit lighter than my main scoop. I sent the template I made in photoshop to a local welder who hooked me up. If you would like a copy, Im happy to send it to you.



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Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: November 30, 2015 12:03PM
I really like your design with the built-in kick plate and all. What gauge of SS do you use? I am making another scoop this winter because I have been losing a lot of small stuff like ear-rings because the holes are too big.
Planning on using smaller holes at the back, sides, and bottom of the scoop to catch more of the small stuff. Weight is still a issue but I am afraid of using a gauge smaller than 14 gauge will not handle the rocks etc.
Your handle and brace configuration looks great.

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Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: bootyhoundpa
Date: November 30, 2015 06:53PM
Made these 2 scoops out of cookware...the smaller 6in one was a piece of calphalon ware and the larger one was a farberware 6 qt soup pot.... i use the bigger one for lake hunting mostly... and much like you mentioned about smaller holes on bottom and backside,it works very well for catching the small stuff,it's almost like a strainer and scoop in one... takes a little longer to shake the sand out to find the target but hey it's better than chasing the same target over and over because it keeps falling thru the scoop.. the u bolts and hardware i picked up at tractor supply..handle came from old shovels... i really like the d handle for dragging the scoop behind me , it leaves a groove in the sand which i use as a reference to sort of grid the bottom...


Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: December 31, 2015 08:31AM
Here is my new hole design, hope this catches the small stuff that my present scoop keeps missing. The back section of the scoop is not shown but will also have
the 3 rows high of small holes and then the bigger holes. Will only have to try it out to see if it flushes out the sand to my satisfaction. This is now ready for the metal brake to bend it at the lines and then weld the top piece with the handle(not shown)to it.
After this is welded I will then form fit the back piece and cut it out to be welded onto this section. There are 172 holes in this section, 80 small holes and 92 bigger holes. The bigger holes have to be drilled twice because you need a pilot hole to start with-lots of work drilling in this 14 gauge SS. I am going to make the back section out of 16 gauge SS just to save some wt and hope that will be strong enough.
Thanks goes to Saltshaker for giving me the design for this scoop.




Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: Saltshaker
Date: December 31, 2015 09:59AM
Wow, that looks great and thanks. Really nice job too...I like your idea and design with the smaller holes. The one change I did make with mine was just to cut and flatten the tip on the top since it was starting to bend a little. Regardless, I think you got a nice scoop there.



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Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: March 04, 2016 09:03AM
Just got the scoops back from the welder for the first go around. Now have to cut out the back sections for the scoops and drill the holes in them. Also have to cut the braces for the handles. Then off to the welder for the final welds.
As you can see I made one scoop 1/2 inch wider on the top piece and the bottom piece.

My welder guy says making the backs out of 16 gauge SS instead of the 14 gauge like the main part of the scoops will be more than strong enough. My concern is the welds on the front top, I am still going to have him weld a small L shaped piece on there to reinforce that area.




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Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: surfman
Date: March 04, 2016 12:31PM
Those look sweet! I think they'll work great. Nice work.



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Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: bootyhoundpa
Date: March 04, 2016 03:30PM
Very professional, real nice...

Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: March 06, 2016 11:01AM
This is my proposed brace for the handle. Do you think this is strong enough? Bad thing is this total scoop with the handle comes in around 7 lbs. The wood handle alone is 2 lbs. Fiber glass handle would be better but more $.




Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: March 17, 2016 11:51AM
Done, ready for the water hunt. Wish welder had welded around the L shaped reinforcements instead of just on the ends. Little worried that the small holes may be too small to flush the scoop enough. Can always drill those holes
bigger I guess if I am not satisfied.
To be honest, with the work and the cost of building these scoops, it is probably better to just go out and buy one. The bending and welding cost of $70 per scoop is what surprised me, 5 yrs ago this cost me $25.




Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: ROBOCOP
Date: March 17, 2016 01:19PM
After building a scoop you can really appreciate the effort in design and construction of the professional built scoops. Little subtle things like the lifting point where the handle meets the scoop is important. A still overlooked feature is the handle design to help control a full bucket of wet sand, preferably with just one hand. Most people use lift handles but to me they just help you lift the full scoop but not really maneuever it to easily dump the wet sand and check for a target. I use handles that act as a counterweight to a full bucket of wet sand and allow one handed digging and control of a full scoop to either dump or let the surf flush the bucket in a controlled manner.

Here's some pics. My goal is to not have to bend my back when lifting or controlling the full scoop.




Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: 2wheeldevil
Date: March 20, 2016 11:36AM
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2wheeldevil
Done, ready for the water hunt. Wish welder had welded around the L shaped reinforcements instead of just on the ends. Little worried that the small holes may be too small to flush the scoop enough. Can always drill those holes
bigger I guess if I am not satisfied.
To be honest, with the work and the cost of building these scoops, it is probably better to just go out and buy one. The bending and welding cost of $70 per scoop is what surprised me, 5 yrs ago this cost me $25.
He said he had
to increase his hourly rate to pay for his health insurance.

Re: Homemade sand and water scoops
Posted by: underwatermetalman
Date: July 22, 2017 06:49PM
Very impressive! we have a lot of talent on this forum!

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