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New CZ3D
Posted by: jacco
Date: March 23, 2016 02:45AM
I've been looking at buying a new CZ3D, you can still buy them brand new. The only threads I see in this forum are talking about older and modified/tweaked/calibrated CZ3D. Does anyone here have experience with a brand new CZ3D?

Thanks

Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: silverseeker 2
Date: March 23, 2016 07:33AM
Look for a 1021 serial #. Many were wayyy hotter than the newer
ones out there and will cost less than a newer one that won't give
you the performance of the older 1021's. There are some hot later
units but not many and try to find one. So I'd stick with a certified
1021 unit that was gone over by the MASTER and a proven
deep seeker as this is what the CZ3D was geared for and
finding "OLD COINS" in enhanced Mode...These older CZ3D's
are just great units and have found me my biggest Gold ring ever.
They go DEEP!!!!
silverseeker 2

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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: Elton
Date: March 23, 2016 10:22AM
I believe Dave J said all CZ3D's were now being calibrated per his (I think) specifications. Some way in the sale of Fisher the original specs were not being done by FT.............................
Dave says their now within specs to operate really well. Now I am only posting this from something I think I read from Dave J.. I hope the info is correct.
maybe dave J will post in this thread and conform I am right..or that I am totally wrong LOL..



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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: March 23, 2016 11:18AM
I have had 6 CZ-3D Old and NEW. I currently have a FT
CZ-3D That is a 12"dime one so they are out there.
Try to get one that can do a dime at least 11".
That is plenty hot. SENS. At 4.8 DISC. at 0 ground and volume at pre-set.

Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: Altamaha
Date: March 25, 2016 02:52PM
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Elton
I believe Dave J said all CZ3D's were now being calibrated per his (I think) specifications. Some way in the sale of Fisher the original specs were not being done by FT.............................
Dave says their now within specs to operate really well. Now I am only posting this from something I think I read from Dave J.. I hope the info is correct.
maybe dave J will post in this thread and conform I am right..or that I am totally wrong LOL..

I remember that Dave J posted on this forum saying this a while back. I guess the only question would be what is the cut off/break point serial number wise for when they went back to the old calibration procedure on the new CZ-3Ds made at First Texas? Maybe Dave can weigh in on this if he is watching this forum?

HH



Started Detecting - 1982
Mid-Hudson Valley Region, New York

Favorite Detectors I Own:

- Whites Eagle ll SL-89
- Whites Eagle II SL-90
- Whites Spectra V3i
- Minelab E-Trac
- Minelab CTX 3030
- 2 Fisher CZ-70 Pros (112 Serials)
- 2 Fisher CZ-3Ds (1021 Serials), 1 Tom certified 12.1 inches
- Makro Racer

Specialty: Coin Shooting:

- Oldest Coin: 1699 Farthing
- Oldest/Rarest American Regular Issue Coin: 1794 Half Cent (81,600)
- Oldest American Silver Coins: 1832 Bust 1/2 Dime (AU-50), 1832 Bust Dime
- Oldest State Coin: 1786 Connecticut Copper
- Oldest Foreign Silver Coin: 1776 Spanish 2 Reale (AU-55)
- Largest Denomination American Coin: 1891s Silver Dollar

- Rarest American Regular Issue Silver Coin: 1915 Barber 1/2 Dollar (AU-55), (138,450)
- Rarest American Token/Pattern Coins: 1783 Nova Contellatio, 1787 Fugio Cent, 1795 Undated (Pattern) Washington Liberty and Security Penny
- Rarest American Error Coins: 1864 Indian With L and RPD (AU-50), 1876cc Seated Liberty Dime With DBL Reverse (AU-55)
- Rarest Key Date Coin: 1811 Large Cent (218,025)

- Oldest/Highest Professionally Graded Dug Coin: 1855 Seated Liberty Quarter (AU-55)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2016 03:00PM by Altamaha.

Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: jacco
Date: March 26, 2016 01:32PM
Thanks for the replies! I have seen the input, in one of the older threads, by Dave J on the old and good calibration procedure being reinstated. It's just you don't see much comments from people that have bought a new CZ3D.

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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: supertraq
Date: March 27, 2016 10:24PM
Per Dave J the last of the Fisher lab 1021's were the worst as production quality suffered along with improper calibration where as the F.T Fisher CZ3d just lacked proper calibration.
Thinking about getting me a new cz3d before they quit making them as they will cost more used than you can buy new now.



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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: pasttom
Date: March 28, 2016 01:25PM
I guess gold is where you find it!



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7 Minelabs, 3 Makros and a few others - rebuilding inventory
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Yep the one I had couldn't detect a nickel at all...........
Posted by: mtdoramike
Date: April 04, 2016 05:41PM
My wife would hunt right next to me and would be hitting nickels all day and me with the CZ3d wouldn't have a single nickel. I thought it was the machine and sent it in to be fixed and they sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it and it operated perfectly. I traded it in for another detector. Now this was when they first came out so I can't say how the tweeked once are, but I still believe they can't detect a nickel and if you can't pick up a nickel, you are going to lose gold.


mike

Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: mtdoramike
Date: April 04, 2016 05:43PM
Damn the dime, can you hit nickels with it?

Re: Yep the one I had couldn't detect a nickel at all...........
Posted by: trojdor
Date: April 04, 2016 06:04PM
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mtdoramike
My wife would hunt right next to me and would be hitting nickels all day and me with the CZ3d wouldn't have a single nickel. I thought it was the machine and sent it in to be fixed and they sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it and it operated perfectly. I traded it in for another detector. Now this was when they first came out so I can't say how the tweeked once are, but I still believe they can't detect a nickel and if you can't pick up a nickel, you are going to lose gold.
mike

Don't know if it was your machine or the operator, but the CZ-3D's will hit nickels and gold just fine...better than your CZ-5, in fact. (wider acceptance window)
Maybe you got a bad one?

My CZ-3D is a nickel and gold jewelry magnet...better than most of my machines...and in bad ground, as well.

mike



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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: trojdor
Date: April 04, 2016 06:05PM
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mtdoramike
Damn the dime, can you hit nickels with it?

Of course.

Re: Yep the one I had couldn't detect a nickel at all...........
Posted by: mtdoramike
Date: April 05, 2016 11:38AM
Then you must have gotten a good one, because I even sent mine back to the company who sent it back to me and claimed it was working fine. I tried ground testing, air testing nickels and nothing. No, it wasn't my imagination, because that is why they started tweeking them even Tom Dankowski couldn't explain why it wouldn't pickup a nickel. Mine wasn't the first to have this issue and it wasn't the last either. But that was back 10 years ago when they first came out. The newer ones may be different. I know in normal mode, it wouldn't hit a nickel when side by side with my CZ5. But in the enhanced mode it would along with every other piece of trash in the area. I dug more trash with that machine in enhanced mode then I ever did with the CZ5, CZ70pro, T2, Quattro, Xterra 70, and Coin $trike just to name a few. Some swear by them, but I did nothing but swear at mine and was glad to be rid of it.

BUt this is my story and I'm sticking to it, so if you don't like the message, don't shoot the messenger. Just run a search on CZ3d and nickels and you'll find there was an issue with them. I hated that it didn't work out for me because I love CZ's and would buy another in a heart beat if I thought it worked better than the one I had.


mike



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Re: New CZ3D
Posted by: Texas Ed
Date: April 05, 2016 12:11PM
Been using the new CZ-3D for sometime and the one I have will pick up nickels and the sound & meter are dead on. Bought a 10.5" coil for it which is very heavy and I dont use it much because it will go deep. NASA Tom will still do a calibration/validation/certification on new & old machine and told me it would take about 4 days. Working and learning it capabilities I am very pleased with it - guess it's the nostalgia of the old school meter on it. Rusty nails can be a problem - run mine in the salt mode to identify zinc pennies when I am in an area where I don't think IH pennies are.

Texas ED

Re: Yep the one I had couldn't detect a nickel at all...........
Posted by: trojdor
Date: April 05, 2016 02:05PM
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mtdoramike
BUt this is my story and I'm sticking to it, so if you don't like the message, don't shoot the messenger. Just run a search on CZ3d and nickels and you'll find there was an issue with them. I hated that it didn't work out for me because I love CZ's and would buy another in a heart beat if I thought it worked better than the one I had.

mike

mike,

Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, and certainly not trying to shoot the messenger.

I believe you when you say the one unit you tried wouldn't find nickels.

Indeed if you purchased yours between say 8-10 years ago, that would be right about the time FTP was calibrating them wrong.
Scroll down to Dave J.'s post:
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?23,2247336

But to extrapolate from that one unit, and make the blanket statement that none of them can detect a nickel is simply wrong.

I believed you, now you believe me when I tell you that the many, many CZ-3Ds I've tried had no trouble at all finding nickels.

As far as the trash goes, that what your excellent CZ70-Pro was meant to address.
When the coin target windows were widened to accept the older coins, many complained about the extra trash.
Thus the CZ-70 tries to address this by putting the older coins in their own notch.

You have an excellent cross section of detectors to use.
Enjoy the coming good weather, and have fun,
:)
mike



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