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OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: jackaroo
Date: May 15, 2011 05:09AM
That will put a 5 year Moritorium on dredging. Any one have more info?

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: Jessgo33
Date: May 16, 2011 05:48PM
idk what dose that Mean?

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: seb1008
Date: May 16, 2011 07:19PM
I copied this from another sight.


Staff Recommendation: Approve the following:

(1) Trailer bill language to continue the moratorium on issuance of suction dredge permits for an additional five years, or until such time as new regulations that fully mitigate all identified significant environmental impacts, and a proposed fee structure that will fully cover all program costs, are in place.

(2) Approve Budget Bill Language prohibiting any funding at the department from being used for suction dredge mining regulation, permitting or other activities.
The recommendation is based on the faulty premise that the suction dredge permits only cost $25 and the program creates a net-loss for the California Department of Fish & Game.

When SB 670 was passed the bill clearly stated that passage of that bill would negatively impact DFG and that enforcement activities were covered by permit fees. Here is the exact wording from the bill:

FISCAL EFFECT of SB670: According to the Assembly Appropriations Committee, loss of approximately $175,000 in annual revenue each year the moratorium is in effect, resulting from loss of suction dredge permit fees (Fish and Game Preservation Fund). Currently, fee revenue pays for suction dredge permit enforcement at the cost of approximately $50,000 per year, activity which will presumably continue during the moratorium.


Here is what you need to do tonight:

Only three Senators -- all part of Subcommittee 2 -- will decide whether or not to add the above language to the budget bill at this time. Call each one of them tonight. There is no time to send a letter -- you must call. If their mailboxes are full, then you must call them in the morning to make an impact.



Phone numbers:

Sen. Lowenthal (916) 651-4027 and (562) 495-4766 and (562) 529-6659

Sen. Simitian (chair) (916) 651-4011 and (408) 277-9460 and (831) 425-0401

Sen. Fuller (916) 651-4018



Here is the info they need to hear from you:

1. The Background info supplied to the Committee is inaccurate. DFG does not lose money as a result of the suction dredging program.

2. The stated fee structure in inaccurate. The cost for permits are $47.50 in-state, and $167.25 out of state ( a far cry from the $25 stated in this Background proposal)

3. PLEASE VOTE NO for the moratorium on suction dredging

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: jackaroo
Date: May 16, 2011 11:06PM
Thanks a BUNCH !

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: Jessgo33
Date: May 18, 2011 08:58PM
When dose it open up? Id like to know

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: Jessgo33
Date: May 18, 2011 09:00PM
O they are going to close it for 5 more years.. That would suck.

Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: bearkat4160
Date: May 20, 2011 11:18PM
California Government is retarded!

They are trying save a couple million bucks by stoping dredging for 5 more years as to not have the enforcement cost come from the general fund of the state.

The elephant in the room which liberals and enviro's cant seem to ever see!... is that they shut down a $100 million dollar industry just in California. They were collecting taxes on that industry that benefited from the miners travels and mining such as motels, grocery, RV parks, local mom and pop stores, mining shops and general tourist dollars. ALL PAY STATE TAXES!

Politicians are just plain crooks and stupid!

The definition of environmentalism is: Job killer's! as is most liberal policy...JOB KILLERS!


Alan



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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: Jessgo33
Date: May 22, 2011 11:49PM
they should just raise the price to dregde to pay for it. Would that work?:confused:

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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: w6pea
Date: June 05, 2011 06:35PM
The only people that we can blame are the idiot's that the wacko's elected. Gov. Moonbeam for one.:thumbdown:



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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: TerraDigger
Date: September 04, 2011 03:18AM
Here is the web page for the State of California in regards to suction dredging:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/suctiondredge/



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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: parrott
Date: September 08, 2011 11:33PM
Great and informative post... I understand the PLP is currently working hard to get dredging back...

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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: DOC
Date: September 10, 2011 06:09PM
Trust me you will never see dredging again. This is a favorite trick of the left, it is incrementalism. First a year then 5 then forever. That was excatly what they did with Abalone. First it was a limit of 4 for 2 days. Then it was a limit of 2 for 2 days. Then it was closure at different areas, then it was a 1 year, then a 5 year moratorium, well we haven't been able to take abalones in the channel islands for 15 years now.

Doc



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Re: OK so I hear there is a NEW Bill in Ca Legislature
Posted by: parrott
Date: September 17, 2011 11:53PM
Howdy DOC and all... I understand the PLP is still busy trying to get Califonria dredging back...

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