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Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 11, 2017 03:41PM
It seems like the Safari is an SE Pro from the specs.

I guess it was brough out to replace the SE series? or maybe the E-trac was to replace the SE series?
Either way, for those of you who have used an SE and a Safari, are the two similar in depth and working in iron trash?

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: July 11, 2017 05:07PM
I think it was an upgrade/refresh of the Quattro. I've had all of the FBS units other than the CTX, and they all have comparable depth performance. I, personally, like the Quattro/Safari the best for it's simplicity, and raw performance...

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 11, 2017 05:27PM
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I think it was an upgrade/refresh of the Quattro. I've had all of the FBS units other than the CTX, and they all have comparable depth performance. I, personally, like the Quattro/Safari the best for it's simplicity, and raw performance...

If your house was on fire, when detector would you grab to save?

Is the Quatro or Safari quicker in resetting in iron nail trash than the Explorers?

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: July 11, 2017 11:18PM
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Tony N (Michigan)
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HighPlainsHunter
I think it was an upgrade/refresh of the Quattro. I've had all of the FBS units other than the CTX, and they all have comparable depth performance. I, personally, like the Quattro/Safari the best for it's simplicity, and raw performance...

If your house was on fire, when detector would you grab to save?

Is the Quatro or Safari quicker in resetting in iron nail trash than the Explorers?

If my house was on fire, there are more important things to grab than a detector, but I get your point. I would grab the only one I have right now which is the Quattro. The others are gone as it's questionable whether I can continue to detect, or not, because of serious back issues. After 45 years in this hobby, it's hard to walk away, even if I can't hardly walk.

As far as quicker resetting goes, I would guess the fastest would be the E-trac. However, it also depends on how you run your machine, sensitivity wise, and your sweep speed as well as environmental conditions (soil moisture, mineralization, EMI, etc.).

One other thing I'll mention is the quality of the signal and tones. I found the E-trac didn't give me the same "silver" tones that the Safari does. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't like the E-trac. I don't like to "fiddle" with settings or programs, etc., so that's why I'm drawn more to a simpler instrument without all of those various "features". I've been fortunate in that I can afford to buy any unit I want, so that hasn't been a limiting factor on which machine I prefer. I've used Minelab detectors since 1996 and still feel they produce some of, if not, the best instruments available. After using multi-frequency detectors for over 20 years, I just can't get along with a single frequency model anymore.

Ok, off the soapbox...

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: July 12, 2017 09:47AM
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HighPlainsHunter
[If my house was on fire, there are more important things to grab than a detector, but I get your point. I would grab the only one I have right now which is the Quattro. The others are gone as it's questionable whether I can continue to detect, or not, because of serious back issues. After 45 years in this hobby, it's hard to walk away, even if I can't hardly walk.

As far as quicker resetting goes, I would guess the fastest would be the E-trac. However, it also depends on how you run your machine, sensitivity wise, and your sweep speed as well as environmental conditions (soil moisture, mineralization, EMI, etc.).

One other thing I'll mention is the quality of the signal and tones. I found the E-trac didn't give me the same "silver" tones that the Safari does. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't like the E-trac. I don't like to "fiddle" with settings or programs, etc., so that's why I'm drawn more to a simpler instrument without all of those various "features". I've been fortunate in that I can afford to buy any unit I want, so that hasn't been a limiting factor on which machine I prefer. I've used Minelab detectors since 1996 and still feel they produce some of, if not, the best instruments available. After using multi-frequency detectors for over 20 years, I just can't get along with a single frequency model anymore.

Ok, off the soapbox...

First of all, so sorry for your bad back. I wish there was an easy fix for that.
I am curious though. I bolded and underlined the parts above and am curious concerning the Quattro. Is that not a single frequency detector?
Update: I just wen to the Minelab web site and they state the Quattro is multi-frequency. I I must have been thinking of the X-Terra.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2017 10:00AM by Tony N (Michigan).

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: July 12, 2017 10:06AM
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[If my house was on fire, there are more important things to grab than a detector, but I get your point. I would grab the only one I have right now which is the Quattro. The others are gone as it's questionable whether I can continue to detect, or not, because of serious back issues. After 45 years in this hobby, it's hard to walk away, even if I can't hardly walk.

As far as quicker resetting goes, I would guess the fastest would be the E-trac. However, it also depends on how you run your machine, sensitivity wise, and your sweep speed as well as environmental conditions (soil moisture, mineralization, EMI, etc.).

One other thing I'll mention is the quality of the signal and tones. I found the E-trac didn't give me the same "silver" tones that the Safari does. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't like the E-trac. I don't like to "fiddle" with settings or programs, etc., so that's why I'm drawn more to a simpler instrument without all of those various "features". I've been fortunate in that I can afford to buy any unit I want, so that hasn't been a limiting factor on which machine I prefer. I've used Minelab detectors since 1996 and still feel they produce some of, if not, the best instruments available. After using multi-frequency detectors for over 20 years, I just can't get along with a single frequency model anymore.

Ok, off the soapbox...

First of all, so sorry for your bad back. I wish there was an easy fix for that.
I am curious though. I bolded and underlined the parts above and am curious concerning the Quattro. Is that not a single frequency detector?

The Quattro is the same FBS system as the Explorer's, Safari and E-Trac.

I, too, wish there was a fix for the back, but they don't make synthetic discs, and mine are shot. I'm not willing to have any surgery as I've known too many that were worse off after the "fix", so I continue to be addicted to pain killers that aren't working like they once did. I'm slowly trying to cut back on those as I don't think they are doing my body any good. Right now I'm dealing with severe pain in my right shoulder that goes up to the back of my neck and head. Won't be getting out any time soon, but hoping I can once/if I can get rid of this latest problem. Sorry to go on about my health issues. Getting old isn't for sissies...

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Champ Ferguson
Date: July 12, 2017 01:02PM
HPH, take another look at the surgery and especially do your homework on the surgeons. My dad has had 2 surgeries in recent years to repair his discs (lower back then neck) and he was rejuvenated by them. At some point, its just better to roll the dice on a surgical fix. But don't let it go to the point that lets the problems get too big.
Best of luck whatever you do.



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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Trashfinder
Date: July 13, 2017 09:29PM
I sold my Etrac today, but till i did i had the Se Pro, etrac, safari and ctx, I have been hunting them one behind the other and i believe the Safari is as good as any one i have and in fact my Se pro is for sale and my Ctx most likely will be next. I just cannot find enough behind the safari with the others to justify not keeping the Safari and selling the others. I pick small well defined spots to test them. Bottom line is if you want to find most everything a spot has to offer you need to listen to tones first then ID and work the area slowly especially in trash. In my test bed the Safari is the deepest machine i have here in my soil. It will pick up an eight inch dime that none of the others can no matter what mode , setting you use on them. I picked my safari up for 475 dollars and only bought it to test all of them to see how much better then more expensive machines were. I found out they do offer a lot more features to enhance your detecting experience but for the money i do not think the Safari can be beat. If my friend does not buy the Se Pro i will be listing it for sale here on the forums soon. Best of luck what ever you do, they are all great machines!

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: July 13, 2017 10:35PM
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Trashfinder
I sold my Etrac today, but till i did i had the Se Pro, etrac, safari and ctx, I have been hunting them one behind the other and i believe the Safari is as good as any one i have and in fact my Se pro is for sale and my Ctx most likely will be next. I just cannot find enough behind the safari with the others to justify not keeping the Safari and selling the others. I pick small well defined spots to test them. Bottom line is if you want to find most everything a spot has to offer you need to listen to tones first then ID and work the area slowly especially in trash. In my test bed the Safari is the deepest machine i have here in my soil. It will pick up an eight inch dime that none of the others can no matter what mode , setting you use on them. I picked my safari up for 475 dollars and only bought it to test all of them to see how much better then more expensive machines were. I found out they do offer a lot more features to enhance your detecting experience but for the money i do not think the Safari can be beat. If my friend does not buy the Se Pro i will be listing it for sale here on the forums soon. Best of luck what ever you do, they are all great machines!

Well said...

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Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Goldstrike
Date: July 16, 2017 03:10PM
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Trashfinder
I sold my Etrac today, but till i did i had the Se Pro, etrac, safari and ctx, I have been hunting them one behind the other and i believe the Safari is as good as any one i have and in fact my Se pro is for sale and my Ctx most likely will be next. I just cannot find enough behind the safari with the others to justify not keeping the Safari and selling the others. I pick small well defined spots to test them. Bottom line is if you want to find most everything a spot has to offer you need to listen to tones first then ID and work the area slowly especially in trash. In my test bed the Safari is the deepest machine i have here in my soil. It will pick up an eight inch dime that none of the others can no matter what mode , setting you use on them. I picked my safari up for 475 dollars and only bought it to test all of them to see how much better then more expensive machines were. I found out they do offer a lot more features to enhance your detecting experience but for the money i do not think the Safari can be beat. If my friend does not buy the Se Pro i will be listing it for sale here on the forums soon. Best of luck what ever you do, they are all great machines!

A great comparison and summation of those metal detectors. I've compared a few myself against the Safari and the only 2 features I wished it had was (1) A backlit screen (2) I wish it was waterproof. I wished it was waterproof, not that I would want to take it in the surf or use it underwater, but not have to be concerned when I detect in rainy weather. I have detected in Illinois (have some property there) and other states and also in Europe, particularly in rainy wet England!!:ukflag: I love to detect with it on the beaches here in So Cal and summing up, the Safari is just a really versatile machine and hasn't let me down yet. It's a fairly simple machine which is a plus for me and if you can get over the learning curve with it's many different tones, you can get to the point where those tones don't bother you at all.
It's paid for itself many times over in gold and silver. I bought it from new and it works as well as when I bought it new several years ago and don't plan to replace it anytime soon, if ever!!lol. Now I just wish it wasn't so crazy hot here in California so I could do more detecting!!!:thumbup:

Re: Was Safari supposed to be a step up from the SE Pro?
Posted by: Trashfinder
Date: July 16, 2017 03:21PM
It is too hot here too , i got out this morning early and by 8 am i was soaking wet! Come on Fall! I wish it had a light too , would not be that hard for them to have put one on it.

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