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Does that mean it will take the S.E.F. Coil ?N/T
Posted by: El
Date: April 01, 2013 11:14PM

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Re: Sierra Super Trac?Sound good like to hear some more finds and reports.Thanks.N/T
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Date: April 01, 2013 11:19PM

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Re: Does that mean it will take the S.E.F. Coil ?
Posted by: morelic55
Date: April 02, 2013 12:44AM
ANY coil that works on a MXT will work on it, including the SEF. I would like to try one with the 10" DD and see what the depth would be.......Mark





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Would that include the 13" ultimate?N/T
Posted by: El
Date: April 02, 2013 08:55AM

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Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: Robert2300
Date: April 03, 2013 01:28PM
Apparently it's available only in certain State, Nevada, Arizona and I can't remember the others. from certain dealers.
Robert2300

Right now, at least, the Sierra Super-Trac is only
Posted by: Monte
Date: April 04, 2013 09:52AM
offered by Dealers in Jimmy 'Sierra's Distribution area of Utah, Nevada, Arizona, California and Hawaii.

As mentioned, it uses the same coils as the M6, MXT and MXT Pro, out-going DFX, and VX3 and V3i's.

The statements we're heard and read, it is kind of intended as a Coin & Relic Hunting unit, but can be used for Gold Nugget Hunting.

The stock coil is the 6X10 DD, but that's not my pick for the implied hunting tasks.

Let's see .....

1.. It comes in the M6 rod and housing package.
2.. It uses the M6 visual display information.
3.. It uses all the same coils as the M6.
4.. The stock coil is a 6X10 DD instead of the round 950 concentric.
5.. It's a silent-search All Metal accept detector.
6.. The operator can "hear-it-all" and then rely on the audio and visual info to determine if it is ferrous or non-ferrous.

That sounds a lot like how I usually hunt with the six M6's I've owned and the MXT's I've had, and my current MXT Pro.

With the MXT and MXT Pro I can set the Discrimination at the minimum setting and that is a true, 'Zero Disc.' setting and will respond to ALL metals, ferrous and non-ferrous. I can use the Relic mode and with the iron ID setting I can hear ferrous and non-ferrous audio tones. Or, with the MXT Pro, I can also hunt in the Coin & Jewelry mode and use the 7-Tone Tone ID, like the M6, and hear the low, bass-like audio fr iron and higher tons fr non-iron.

Or, I can do the same thing with the M6, setting the Disc. to the minimum Zero-Disc. setting in which it is an All Metal motion Disc. operation. Trigger forward if I want the same 7-Tone ID to help audibly distinguish iron. Other than a search coil change, which I usually do anyway, there really isn't a lot of difference. I prefer the 6



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta:
Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe (Using mainly the 'OOR', 5", 4X7½, 5X9½ open-frame DD's or 7" Concentric coils as needed. Other coils on-hand.)
Tesoro:
Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave (With either a 6" or 7" Concentric coil in use, or maybe 8X11 DD on the Vaquero.)

Other Specialty Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet'.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: April 06, 2013 05:59PM
What about the modulated audio it claims to have? I didn't think the M6 had modulated audio or does it? Thanks.

Harold,ILL, about the modulated audio. Yes, both the
Posted by: Monte
Date: April 07, 2013 10:10AM
MXT's and the M6 have a modulated audio. It is more apparent at the lower Sensitivity/Gain settings. When these settings are increased to the preset mark and then into the plus range (where I run most of the time at max) you're also increasing the Pre-Amp Gain, aka Signal Balance or Rx Gain. It's also increasing the Target Volume and when operating at that or a higher setting, the audio response will be stronger (you can say more 'saturated' to a greater degree, but it's not the typical 'saturated' type audio with clipping filters), but the overall circuitry design is that these models have a 'modulated' audio. Thus, the smallest and/or deepest targets will have a a weaker response. You'll hear the 'modulation' or dwindling of the audio response as the targets get farther from the coil.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detectors:
Nokta:
Impact, FORS Relic and FORS CoRe (Using mainly the 'OOR', 5", 4X7½, 5X9½ open-frame DD's or 7" Concentric coils as needed. Other coils on-hand.)
Tesoro:
Vaquero, Silver Sabre µMAX and Mojave (With either a 6" or 7" Concentric coil in use, or maybe 8X11 DD on the Vaquero.)

Other Specialty Use Detectors from:
Compass, Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand, NOT in my order of preference for use. Additional search coils on-hand in accessory bags.

Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using the Killer B 'Hornet'.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: April 07, 2013 01:34PM
Thanks for the reply Monte!

Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: RedRockNv
Date: April 08, 2013 08:58AM
Just guessing but the silent search would preclude faint whispers from deep targets. If you are going to consider prospecting better to go with the MXT I would think. Seems like a pure park machine just from reading about it and watching the videos.

Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: godigit1
Date: April 08, 2013 11:00AM
Meting with a dealer this week for a test spin. She is a Mxt expert user and we will do some comparisons. Its possible the MXT may set up to do the same. But I'm wondering about speed as there is not actually supposed to be a disc circuit in the SST. Very interesting concept and the way I hunt with the G2 any way. If its anywhere as fast as the G2 with the extra info of the seven tones it may be a killer jewelry machine as well as the ghost town sweeper !!!!!

Cant Wait!

Hey RedRockNv where did you see the videos? I would like to watch them.N/T
Posted by: El
Date: April 08, 2013 04:42PM

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Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: RedRockNv
Date: April 09, 2013 09:06AM
Links at the bottom of this page.

http://ca.whiteselectronics.com/supertrac.html

Re: Sierra Super Track?
Posted by: au4greg
Date: April 27, 2013 04:10PM
Steve H.,

You didn't waste any time proclaiming this unit, learn to be Discreet Please:ranting: Call me sometime and I can explain further.

Just FYI, This SST was not TESTED in the UK, The Unit and what we wanted to do with it was the Brain Child of Jimmy Sierra and Myself designing what we wanted over Lunch: I had a Turkey Sandwich at a Deli in Fairfax and Jimmy had similar.

We agreed needed a Specialty Unit for the West Coast Jimmy Sierra Dealers that would handle High mineralization/Black Sand, SO offering the 6x10 DD, a Superior Must Have Search Coil for or Mineralized Beaches so we wouldn't lose the target in such reactive conditions. By the way, when you said it was tested in England.... NOT so, you probably heard that Jimmy Sierra preferred the M-6 over all others he has hunted with for various reasons. I was the First to TEST the actual Proto-Type Sierra Super Track and gave it a Big Thumbs Up... from there, it was sent to Digger Bob Van Camp of Comstock Metal Detectors who immediately took it to a popular worked over Park and located seven rings that were overlooked by many others using various makes and models. The way it is set up makes it awfully hard to walk over a good target.

I then sent my Prototype to Larry at Big Valley Metal Detectors in Citris Heights, CA who was impressed with the performance and passed everything he could throw at it including the Board of Pain which separates the men from the boys so to speak.
Although Designed with Mineralized Beach and Park Hunting in mind, can you prospect with it... absolutely!!!. Will it 'HEAR' as Deep as the MXT Pro on a Gold Nugget?.... Close with that 3 Filter Amplified Channel, but a Threshold Machine will always have a slight edge, but there are also benefits to Silent Search when you MD is properly tuned.

The SST has an INTRO Special at 700.00 less a 100.00 coupon and comes STANDARD with the best Loop for the Beaches and High Mineralization, the 6x10 DD, thus a customer can buy near MXT Performance for 600.00 and have a High Mineral Coil without having to fork over an additional $179.95 +/-. This is a Limited Distribution Detector available directly from your White's Local Dealer in our Select Western States. If you live in other Areas, then I suggest the M-6 or MXT Standard to keep the price reasonable. Your Local Dealer will often negotiate on White's Precise Tuned Accessory Coils, whether it is a 6x10, D2, 5.3, 4x6.

Incidentally, The Strongest Signal Coil on my 12" Nickel Test next to AC Power Lines just several feet from it was the 5.3, so those that are ABLE to acquire the SST, my choice on a second coil would definitely be the 5.3 due to its edge on Discrimination and better resistance to electrical Interference that can tear up a signal.

Greg

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Re: Sierra Super Trac?
Posted by: Harold,ILL.
Date: April 28, 2013 01:16PM
I thought it was a Turkey and roastbeef sandwich? LOL!

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