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Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: ganixle
Date: September 20, 2016 03:49PM
Don't know if I should post this link or not. Company is in Spain. I saw one of these being used by one of my Spanish detecting buddies on his White's 6000 black box detector a few months back in an area covered in ceramic roof tiles and pottery shards. I was using a Troy Shadow X5 I leave at my sister-in-law's house and this guy ran off and left me. I could pretty much hang with the others in the group on copper cobs, Roman and medieval coins and the usual array of bronze relics that come out of the ground there. he coil works as advertised and adds a whole new dimension in depth and ability to work around material that would normally block a signal. I am currently trying to get one shipped over to test out here in Florida. I watched the guy hit a Visigoth tomb with a couple of bronze broaches in it at 57cm or darn close to 2 feet with a clear signal. Another 6000, one of the skinny ones that uses 8 AA batteries couldn't touch it nor could a Sovereign XS-2 with an 18 inch W.O.T coil. The video is in Spanish but with enough subtitles to make sense of it.

https://youtu.be/K8vj-3NVpig

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: JJdigs
Date: September 21, 2016 07:12PM
Love the lower freq Whites machines...there very smooth and do well in most of my hunting spots like old home sites. The 9.5" could does really good in the depth department. And the blue max 600 coil gets great separation. And impressive depth also. I love these machines.....I also scored a blue box eagle II....wow iam super impressed with the 80's digital two...love it

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: Carlos (CA)
Date: November 11, 2016 03:11PM
I love all my 6.59's. I love coins, and they are my first choice. Some of my deepest coins I have found with a Classic III SL i got almost new on E-Bay. Huge surprise on the depth.
The Silver Eagle, Eagle Spectrum,, IDX Pro, Classic III ID; I obtained after the Classic IIl SL based on the notion of 6.59, and they all serve me well. Great discrimination on all of them
and decent depth. The Quantum II I bought in 1996 when they came out, and that is still one of my favorite with its sweet coin audio option, and 6.59 adustable frequency capability.

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: Carlos (CA)
Date: November 11, 2016 03:14PM
oh forgot the 5900 and 6000 DiPro SL's. Also picked these up after the Classic III SL experience, and a joy to use. All of the 6.59's are fantastic and fun units. Yes, I know, I have too many. But with patience you can pick up really nice ones at a decent price on E-Bay.

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: TXPIRATE
Date: November 20, 2016 06:02PM
Money is tight I am looking for a good classic 2 or 3 for the right price non id.

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: pinpointer999
Date: March 25, 2017 05:12PM
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bootyhoundpa
I have the 5900 and use the 5.3inch coil for park hunting...very good target separation and good depth..it will hit fine on gold, you just have to be willing to dig it.. as far as how well they stack up against newer machines, I dont know...

I have used F75 Ltd, MX5, DFX. I have sold the MX5 and replaced it with a 5900 Di/Pro Plus and IDX Pro Mr. Bill mod. Also got a CZ6a. Analog machines are amazing and offer the nuances in audio and visual indicators that digital machines just cannot touch.
I have found detecting much easier and more rewarding by using analog machines as my main choice now.

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Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: Wayfarer
Date: March 25, 2017 06:14PM
The 5900 Di/Pro Plus along with the IDX Pro is a great combo. The 5900 for covering ground in more open areas, and the IDX for working in the trash.

I just bought an IDX Pro with the Mr. Bill mods after missing my old one I foolishly sold a few years back. The analog machines are a real joy to use and they perform great. The newer digital machines give you a lot of bells and whistles, but they don't really perform that much better than the last of the great analog machines like you have. So I'd certainly say no, the 6.59 kHz machines are NOT obsolete.



Current detectors: White's V3i, MXT, XL Pro
Past: White's XLT, 6000D Series 3, Coinmaster 2DB, Minelab CTX 3030, Fisher Gold Bug Pro
Location: Western Idaho
Detecting since 1980

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: pinpointer999
Date: March 25, 2017 07:16PM
Thanks for the reply. I am relatively new to both machines, but your observations are spot-on.
I have not yet tried the 6" blue max coil on the 5900 - just the stock 9" donut. I have searched a trashy
site with it, and was happy with it even with the larger coil. I also have the little snooper blue max coil so will
have to see how the 5900 responds with these. The IDX Pro Mr Bill mod is amazing in an absolutely
trashy old school yard I detect regularly. It was built in 1907 and is full of amazing old relics and coins as well
as modern trash laying over the goodies. It has no trouble snagging the good stuff. It only took me one and a half
seasons in the hobby to realize that the older analog machines are amazing. And I won't even get started on my
Fisher CZ6a - that's for another forum LOL. HH

Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: DirtDiggerDaveinMD
Date: March 26, 2017 12:00AM
The 6.59 kHz machines are still as relevant today as they were when they first appeared. Everyone thinks the newer machines have updated technology. Except for some new refinements, most of the new machines still use VLF technology that topped out 20 years ago. It is as if some think the detectors made 20 years ago cannot find a coin today just because time moved forward.

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Hope 6.59kHz isn' obsolete....
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: March 29, 2017 05:22AM
Just picked this up. Will be fun figuring it out.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites M6




Re: Hope 6.59kHz isn' obsolete....
Posted by: Hombre
Date: March 29, 2017 10:01AM
Gregg wrote "Will be fun figuring it out"...I imagine You and Monte can get it humming along nicely.:twodetecting:

I had to figure out mine with the manual only, I learned it is almost impossible to GB when turned on with "Hot Rock Accept" now I use the pre-set "Hot Rock Reject". This is before I learned about the detecting forums....which lessens the learning curve. The 6000 Pro XL and later named XL Pro make a nice open park machine when targets are spaced out some. When targets get closer together...the long "ring time" of the four filter XL Pro starts to show some draw backs with good target masking. Then it is time to pull out a faster detector with a quicker recovery speed.



" If in doubt, dig it out"

I use various analog detectors, knobs and switches rule.

Randy from south central Kansas

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Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: March 29, 2017 10:38AM
Hey Randy how ya been doing ?? You gonna try and hit one of the outings this year ?? Box your stuff up and send it to me and I'll get it to the outing site.....all you have to do is get your body to the outing.

But ya glad Monte is close by to show me how to get this puppy up and running.

Most of it looks straight forward, like auto trac/lock, Disc, power and Mode. Its the upper left and right knobs , Sig Bal and Tuner ?? I thought about it for awhile and it finally dawned on me.....this might be just like my Samsung Galaxy phone , able to receive FM radio stations ??

Anyhow it gets here Friday, and I will take it over to Monte's before I even unbox it. :smile:



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites M6

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Re: Whites 6.59MHz Machines Obsolete?
Posted by: Wayfarer
Date: March 29, 2017 11:02AM
Gregg, congratulations on the new XL Pro. It's a real beauty! Randy summed it up. These are about perfect for more open areas without a lot of trash, but aren't well suited to trashier areas. There are some things you can do to make it "ok" in the trash, like using the 5.3 Bullseye coil, hunting slow in GEB Norm or TR Disc, and turning the sensitivity down. But you'd be better off switching to another detector when the trash gets thick. An IDX Pro is the perfect compliment to the XL Pro in this regard. It even uses the same coils.

What the XL Pro does do better than any detector, is bring you right back to the good ol' days of top of the line White's analog technology. It is the culmination of 20 years of careful design improvements to White's top of the line 6000 series detectors which are legendary as being the reigning king of detectors from the late 70's to at least the mid 90's. It just really doesn't get any better than this for analog tech. The audio is so smooth and sweet, very stable and quiet, and deep on coins especially.

Randy's a guru on the XL Pro, as well as Monte, of course. Signal Balance is very important. Don't turn it up too high, especially in mineralized ground, or else you'll lose depth. High beams in the fog analogy is very true with this model. Also you'll get GB "foldback" when you have signal balance too high. Here in Boise's mostly mild soil, I usually end up running signal balance around 2-3 o'clock.

I'm still planning on attending the June outing. Let's try to get Randy out this way for one of the outings and we can really have a great time playing with all our 6.59 kHz machines.

Darren



Current detectors: White's V3i, MXT, XL Pro
Past: White's XLT, 6000D Series 3, Coinmaster 2DB, Minelab CTX 3030, Fisher Gold Bug Pro
Location: Western Idaho
Detecting since 1980



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The benefits of having Monte live close by are:
Posted by: Monte
Date: March 29, 2017 11:16AM
Should there be a question, Gregg can ask him.

Better yet, Gregg can easily boast a bunch and show off the excellent finds he is going to make with the XL Pro.

And as much as Monte pampers every detector he owns and tries to maintain attractive-appearance units, Gregg gets to boast about his 'as new' and minty-shape White's XL Pro (one of which Monte doesn't have). :(

Envious,
Monte



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Re: The benefits of having Monte live close by are:
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: March 29, 2017 11:28AM
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Monte
(one of which Monte doesn't have). :(

Envious,
Monte

On second thought maybe I better keep it away from Monte. I might not get to bring it back home.......

Darren hope to see you at the June outing. If you can get the time, it will be an easy one to get to from your location. And ya, in the meantime you can work on Randy and convince him he needs to make an outing :smile:



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites M6

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