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scorpion gold stinger, any reviews
Posted by: ashmonkey
Date: September 09, 2009 05:47PM
here in the UK nobody really uses the scorpion, i know it,s going to work well on land, but has anybody used them much on salt wet sand, be interested in hearing your views before i import one.

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My First Scorpion Hunt From Last Year ( 2008 )
Posted by: John-Edmonton
Date: September 09, 2009 08:58PM

Took the Garrett Scorpion Gold Stinger out for a hunt after work today. I managed a little over 2 hours hunting, and also brought along my GTI 2500 for some target ID comparisons.


I got a nice variety of finds. I chose to hunt in the recommended default position where the dials are set to a small "V" on the dials for both depth and discrimination. I also ran the detector with an audible threshold, again as suggested in the manual. I hunted in true all metal mode, and when I got a signal, I would flick the 3 way switch to motion discriminate to see if the signal had any change, or disappeared completely. If it disappeared completely, I moved on to the next target. If it decreased, but was still audible, I dug it anyways. This resulted in digging up tinfoil or other junk most of the time. If the signal was strong when I switched to motion discriminate from true all metal mode, it was usually a coin, button or a large deep target. My first 5-6 targets I was guessing at before I checked them with the GTI 2500. I was way off base with most of them, in both ID and depth. My guessing probability increased after about an hours worth of hunting and about 30 targets, both good and junk. I used the TR mode several times checking it with both true all metal mode and motion discriminate. It does not get the depth that the other two settings get, but it still discriminates as per settings. The TR mode is used to ID hot rocks when detecting in rocky areas for gold nuggets. The instructions give a simple yet easy to understand description on how to use it. I won't elaborate, as I was working sports fields.

So....what's up with the Gold Stinger.......

It's a very interesting metal detector to use. It gets great depth. I don't know where it bottoms out, but in my test garden, it will easily pick up my 6" silver dime and 6" silver quarter, which haven't yet formed a decent halo. In the first school sports field, there was the potential for some silver, as I had previously found several silver coins. No silver today, however, I did get a 1949 penny at a measured 6" with a nice strong signal in both true all metal and motion discriminate. Others were popping out at 4"-5" again, in both settings. I got one unique surprise. I got a nice coin signal, dug up a coin, retested the hole and got another signal. I dug down about an inch away from where the penny was and dug up an old 1 1/2" rusty nail. Now that is great target separation. I would normally expect a detector to not read the coin, as the nail would mask the coin being so close. but not with the Scorpion. The 5" x 10" stock coil does a fantastic job cherry picking good targets amongst the junk. The TR is supposedly even better, but I didn't use it.

The pinpointing is deadly with this coil. I would either do the typical X and located the target in the center, or even easier, I would go to true all meta mode, move the coil back and forth a number of times, the drag the coil towards me and when the audio stopped, the target would always be about 1/4" in from the edge of the front toe of the coil. I also discovered that shallow targets and coins stop abruptly, where as deep targets and tinfoil did not stop abruptly. The Gold Stinger pinpoints just like the ACE series elliptical (non-"DD") coils.

Mastering this detector is all about settings and learning the sounds. Deeper targets are fainter, shallow targets are more crisp and loud. Junk targets usually break up and sound raspy, whereas coins sound nice and clean. Some junk will read only one way whereas coins will give a decent sound in all directions. Our Canadian clad dimes give off a "wow" type sound. Nickels really hit hard, as they are close to the conductivity of gold, and of course finding gold is what Charles Garrett had in mind when designing this gold detector and using the 15kHz Groundhog Circuit.

I need to put a lot more time on this machine, as I am used to a screen with size, depth and target probability. I can guesstamate the size by raising the coil and seeing how high I get a signal. I can also guess the depth listening to the volume and softness of the signal. I need to work on the sounds to help ID a good target from a bad. But then.......this is metal detecting, and it is always healthy to learn something new.

Below are just the rings found with the Scorpion.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2009 08:58PM by John-Edmonton.




good hunting !N/T
Posted by: ojm bc
Date: September 09, 2009 10:32PM

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Re: scorpion gold stinger, any reviews
Posted by: Old Katz
Date: September 10, 2009 09:18AM
GARRETT ELECTRONICS SCORPION GOLD STINGER
By Andy Sabisch

From page 08 of the January 1991 issue of Lost Treasure magazine.
Copyright 1991, 2000 Lost Treasure, Inc.

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Garrett Electronics has long been associated with searching for treasure in many forms and the expression "electronic prospecting" was actually coined by Charles Garrett and Ray Lagal nearly 25 years ago. Since that time the Groundhog and A3B Goldhunter models have compiled an impressive record for locating gold and other precious metals under adverse conditions.
The latest addition to the Garrett line of metal detectors is called the Scorpion Gold Stinger and has been designed to not only be used for electronic prospecting, but other facets of treasure hunting as well. When Jim Dobrie, Garrett's Marketing Director, informed me they were shipping me one of these new units to field test, I anxiously awaited its arrival.
FEATURE
The Gold Stinger is a manual ground-balance detector that features two types of discrimination circuits along with the all-metal mode used primarily for prospecting. It is mounted on a modified S-shape rod and, at 3 pounds 6 ounces, is both extremely lightweight and well balanced. The armrest, which also functions as a built-in detector stand, has been completely redesigned and is made of padded plastic to further reduce the overall weight of the detector.
The control housing is easily removed from the rod for either hip-mounting or shallowwater searching by pressing the two sets of spring clips located under the housing, and the mounting bracket then doubles as a belt loop. The searchcoil comes with eight feet of cable which eliminates the need for an extension cable when hip-mounting the control housing.
The searchcoil that comes with the Scorpion is a 5-inch by 10-inch elliptical wide-scan loop that features double-D coil construction. This configuration results in a searchcoil that doesn't have any "dead" areas and allows a greater area to be covered with each sweep.
Another new feature is the use of a dual co-axial cable to connect the searchcoil to the control housing. This is used to reduce signal noise often found on standard cable and provides for greater sensitivity and detection depth with less background noise. This new cable is used on all of the optional searchcoils available for the Gold Stinger. The Scorpion operates at a frequency of 15 kHz, similar to that of the older Groundhog and A3B, which has proven to be extremely sensitive to smaller pieces of gold.
The controls on the Gold Stinger are four knobs: Depth, Discrimination, Audio Threshold, and Ground Balance; two toggle switches: Operating and Tuning Mode select; and a Tuning push button. There are preset arrows on the Discrimination, Depth, and Ground Balance controls which aid in the initial setup of the detector.
The Discrimination circuitry in the Scorpion features a true zero discrimination setting which allows the user to accurately test ore samples to determine if they contain any metal or if they are only highly mineralized "hot rocks." At higher settings, targets such as nails, tin foil, bottle caps, pull tabs, and even screw caps are rejected which enables the Gold Stinger to be used for general treasure hunting, even in high trash areas.
The three-position toggle switch is used to select the operating mode of the Scorpion. As mentioned previously, there are three modes; an All-Metal mode and two discriminate modes, one being a TR discriminate mode which is primarily used for ore testing and other prospecting applications, and the other is an automatic ground -cancelling motion discriminate mode that is used for all other situations such as coin hunting, relic hunting, or prospecting where discrimination would be needed.
The ground-balance circuit features a 16-turn dual knob control which allows for extremely precise settings to compensate for ground mineralization. The inner knob provides coarse tuning and has 25 individual stops. The outer knob provides for the fine tuning and is used to accurately adjust the Gold Stinger for searching in even the worst mineralization.
The Audio control is a 10-turn knob that allows the user to set the audio threshold to the most comfortable level to avoid missing even the smallest target. The toggle switch above the Audio control selects the tuning mode desired. In the Auto mode, the Gold Stinger will maintain the audio level set while searching. If the Manual mode is selected, the audio level will be affected by changing ground condition; however, as described later, there are times when this mode is preferred.
A headphone jack is located on the rear of the control housing and accepts any standard 1/4-inch plug. Due to the location of the jack, it is best if the headphones used have a 90-degree plug rather than the standard straight plug; however, either will work.
The Gold Stinger is powered by 3 nine-volt batteries which are located inside the control housing. The original set that came with the detector provided me with nearly 30 hours of use, and quality alkaline batteries should provide approximately 5 to 10 hours more. While rechargeable batteries can be used with no loss of performance, they are not offered as an option by the factory and with the long battery life provided by even standard carbon batteries, the cost of purchasing ni-cads may not be justified.
INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
After assembling the Gold Stinger and reading through the pocket-sized instruction manual, I proceeded to test the response of the unit to various targets.
Since the Scorpion is marketed as a Garrett's electronic-prospecting detector, I started by checking its response to some natural gold I have. Surprisingly, a vial containing a few grains of flour gold produced a definite response at two to three inches from the coil. A vial containing some small nuggets gave an even stronger response, and also produced a response in the motion discriminate mode as well. I tried other targets including coins, jewelry, and small military artifacts and the depth at which they could be detected was first-rate.
I took the Gold Stinger outside to see how easy it was to ground balance the unit in the highly mineralized red clay found in northern Georgia. Setting the outer Ground Balance control to the initial setting arrow and the mode select toggle switch to All-Metal, I turned the Scorpion on by turning the Depth control clockwise. This control also functions as the battery test control, and the battery strength is indicated by the number of tones heard when turning the unit on.
New batteries will provide five tones, and when only one tone is heard, the batteries should be replaced. Precisely ground-balancing the detector turned out to be quite simple. The loop is raised off the ground, the audio threshold is adjusted to a comfortable level, and the coil slowly lowered to the ground.
If the threshold decreases, you need to increase the amount of ground compensation for the mineralization present, and the opposite is true if the threshold increases. If only a slight change is heard, the outer fine-tuning knob can be used to make the final adjustments.
Raise the loop, press and hold the retune push button, make the required change to the ground-balance control, release the button, and lower the loop to the ground. Repeat this process until there is no change in the audio threshold as the loop is raised and lowered. The more precisely this setting is made, the more sensitive and stable the Gold Stinger will be in the field.
After ground-balancing the Scorpion, I proceeded to see how it responded to the items in my test garden. In both the AH-Metal and Motion Discriminate modes, it gave a solid response to the targets including coins at depths of up to six inches and Civil War artifacts at depths of up to eight inches.
The TR discriminate mode was unable to detect targets deeper than five inches, and this is primarily due to the fact that this mode has no ground compensation. If you were using the Scorpion in an area with very littl

Re: scorpion gold stinger, any reviews
Posted by: Bugar In. USA
Date: September 10, 2009 07:19PM
Here's what the box looks like, they have automatic or manual ground balance, note toggle on left side, great detectors for most things= But i am Predjudised :garrett:




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