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AT MAX Release News
Posted by: BLStone68
Date: August 25, 2017 06:30PM
Several weeks after Labor Day :confused: isn't that called October :blink:




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Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: August 26, 2017 12:44PM
BLStone68 Thanks for the info!



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Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: Gamma_Joe
Date: August 26, 2017 08:30PM
Will it -- or won't it -- have target imaging/sizing like the GTI2500?

If not ... then I for one would really like to hear Garrett say why it isn't needed.

Joe

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Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: John-Edmonton
Date: August 26, 2017 09:43PM
Ask them....:shrug:

Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: dan b
Date: August 27, 2017 10:15AM
He feature list for the ATMax has been published for months.



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Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: Gamma_Joe
Date: August 28, 2017 04:50PM
I'd just like to see it discussed here among Garrett users in a public forum.

Please don't get me wrong == my GTI2500 is my "go-to" machine, among all the units I had and have:

... Garrett GTI2500, GTP1350, and AT3 Beach Hunter,

... Fisher CZ-7a and CZ-70,

... Teknetics Gamma and Omega.

I'd take any one of them out for a fun hunt, any day.

The GTI2500 gets picked for serious detecting. That is for one thing: the imaging. I get more accurate decisions with it *before digging*, and cover more ground, and dig less trash.

Yes, you bet I have compared them on targets. The GTI2500 is accurate for showing both the size and depth. The others don't do that. All their user guides say that the depth reading is for "coin-sized objects".

The GTI2500 imaging shows both parts of the story.

Yeah, the GTI2500 is heavy, and the segmented readout is not quite as good as having real numbers for target ID. But the imaging makes the difference. When I first got it, I dug everything, just to see how well it worked. It's accurate.

I've been doing this hobby for 27 years. And again, I'm a loyal Garrett user.

What the hell is "Max" supposed to mean? Why does it lack a major feature (target imaging) that a different detector has?

I'd just like to hear what users think.

Joe

Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: Dancer
Date: August 28, 2017 07:04PM
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Gamma_Joe
I'd just like to see it discussed here among Garrett users in a public forum.

Please don't get me wrong == my GTI2500 is my "go-to" machine, among all the units I had and have:

... Garrett GTI2500, GTP1350, and AT3 Beach Hunter,

... Fisher CZ-7a and CZ-70,

... Teknetics Gamma and Omega.

I'd take any one of them out for a fun hunt, any day.

The GTI2500 gets picked for serious detecting. That is for one thing: the imaging. I get more accurate decisions with it *before digging*, and cover more ground, and dig less trash.

Yes, you bet I have compared them on targets. The GTI2500 is accurate for showing both the size and depth. The others don't do that. All their user guides say that the depth reading is for "coin-sized objects".

The GTI2500 imaging shows both parts of the story.

Yeah, the GTI2500 is heavy, and the segmented readout is not quite as good as having real numbers for target ID. But the imaging makes the difference. When I first got it, I dug everything, just to see how well it worked. It's accurate.

I've been doing this hobby for 27 years. And again, I'm a loyal Garrett user.

What the hell is "Max" supposed to mean? Why does it lack a major feature (target imaging) that a different detector has?

I'd just like to hear what users think.

Joe

Hunted a Gti 1500 for years. (imaging) Loved it. A real quarter monster. But along came the Pro, with Vdi, iron audio, better identifying sound, ground balancing, and the big one, water proof to 10 foot. Hated having to do it, but the 1500 was sent to a good home.
I'm just not real sure the Max will make that much difference over the AT Pro.
Dancer

Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: surf n turf
Date: August 28, 2017 10:54PM
I'm with ya Joe, I love my 2500, I use all the convenient features (like the all metal button) to determine if I want to dig or not. At every hunt my friends always ask me to listen to their signals and I've given them very accurate information before they dig. I'm hoping that Vaughn has one more ace up his sleeve, a blended Max and 2500.

Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: BLStone68
Date: August 29, 2017 12:10PM
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Dancer
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Gamma_Joe
I'd just like to see it discussed here among Garrett users in a public forum.

Please don't get me wrong == my GTI2500 is my "go-to" machine, among all the units I had and have:

... Garrett GTI2500, GTP1350, and AT3 Beach Hunter,

... Fisher CZ-7a and CZ-70,

... Teknetics Gamma and Omega.

I'd take any one of them out for a fun hunt, any day.

The GTI2500 gets picked for serious detecting. That is for one thing: the imaging. I get more accurate decisions with it *before digging*, and cover more ground, and dig less trash.

Yes, you bet I have compared them on targets. The GTI2500 is accurate for showing both the size and depth. The others don't do that. All their user guides say that the depth reading is for "coin-sized objects".

The GTI2500 imaging shows both parts of the story.

Yeah, the GTI2500 is heavy, and the segmented readout is not quite as good as having real numbers for target ID. But the imaging makes the difference. When I first got it, I dug everything, just to see how well it worked. It's accurate.

I've been doing this hobby for 27 years. And again, I'm a loyal Garrett user.

What the hell is "Max" supposed to mean? Why does it lack a major feature (target imaging) that a different detector has?

I'd just like to hear what users think.

Joe

Hunted a Gti 1500 for years. (imaging) Loved it. A real quarter monster. But along came the Pro, with Vdi, iron audio, better identifying sound, ground balancing, and the big one, water proof to 10 foot. Hated having to do it, but the 1500 was sent to a good home.
I'm just not real sure the Max will make that much difference over the AT Pro.
Dancer
When they first announced the Max, a lot of people were asking why didn't they make it have the ability to change frequencies.
I'm new to detecting so I try to watch as many videos as I can on it. Watching the Hoover Boys - Max Review, he says the Max will replace his Pro and the Gold will be his back up.
I'm guessing he picked the Gold as his second because of the higher frequency.
The 18 kHz frequency of the Gold makes it unique among the AT series, and maybe gives a person a reason to buy one before or with another detector. Same with the GTI's imaging.
Could you imagine if Max had adjustable frequencies 7.2 kHz to 18 kHz and imaging, then I don't think Garrett would sell to many of the other ones, besides the price that is. :laugh:

: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: Gamma_Joe
Date: August 30, 2017 10:09AM
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surf n turf
I'm with ya Joe, I love my 2500, I use all the convenient features (like the all metal button) to determine if I want to dig or not. At every hunt my friends always ask me to listen to their signals and I've given them very accurate information before they dig. I'm hoping that Vaughn has one more ace up his sleeve, a blended Max and 2500.

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Same here. That's the detector we need.

If the Omega says "dime" at 6 inches ... maybe it's a dime, or maybe its a shred of aluminum (not foil) at 9 inches. Like the books says, depth accuracy is for "coin sized" targets. Otherwise, all bets are off. You don't know until you dig.

Now pass the GTI2500 over the same target. If the GTI2500 detects in the 10c segment and then pinpoints with "coin size" at 6 inches, it's a dime. And it's accurate even when the coin isn't "flat" in the ground, i.e. on a tilt. On the other hand, if the GTI shows the size "bigger than a coin" at 8 or 10 inches, that's what it is.

Maybe it's OK, if you're in a field with relics. But if you're coinshooting in a park full of trash, the "size" imaging matters. You cover more ground, and it's your call.

We all know the bit about sweeping the coil in different directions during pinpointing, "X" pattern in different sweep widths and ground clearances, to try to figure out the target's possible size. It's just that the GTI is giving you more information. You get it up front, quicker and more accurately.

The technology is different. The GTI2500 uses a 3-element coil: one Transmit winding, and two separate Receive windings. You're working with two "receive" cones, one narrower and shallower and one wider and deeper. You get data for "size" comparison coming back. Other detectors don't do that.

All I'm trying to say is this:

... I'm questioning why a detector gets a label of "Max". It seems to not have such a major detecting feature, one that's already in another detector.

That's with full respect to Garrett. I've already said why I prefer my existing Garrett unit.

Joe

Re: AT MAX Release News/ Imaging why not ?
Posted by: Dancer
Date: August 31, 2017 07:18AM
Imaging been around since the nineties. So why not enhance it, and include it? Course you Had to pin point to kick it in. Many guys with today's machines with new technologies don't even bother pinpointing much anymore. I remember my 1500 with imaging, liked it but it was slow making it's mind up. After 4plus inches not so good. Most guys these days want, lighter, faster and water proof. One thing machines before Imaging had me digging a lot of aluminum cans reading 50 cents. Now not often with new technology.

Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: dan b
Date: September 02, 2017 08:50PM
I seldom use the pinpointer on my ATPro. X'ing the target just like a Tesoro does the job just fine.



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Re: AT MAX Release News
Posted by: BLStone68
Date: September 07, 2017 12:12PM
From the Garrett Facebook page,


AT MAX UNITS ARE SHIPPING!
The first shipment of AT Max detectors departed our Garland, Texas, dock last week. Another shipment went out yesterday. More will follow today and more will continue daily going forward, both U.S. and international models.
Please bear with us, as this will take several weeks to fulfill our backlog of orders. But, the good news is that your distributors (and then dealers) will be receiving units as we continue rolling forward.
Regarding Z-Lynk products and MS-3 Z-Lynk Wireless Headphones . . . all orders have shipped and Garrett has ample quantities in stock for new orders. We encourage our dealers to stock up on these hot items as the busy fall selling season is upon us.
To our loyal customers: THANK YOU for your patience as we opted to improve the AT Max this summer.

https://www.facebook.com/Garrett-Metal-Detectors-103418486416549/

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