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Do you use the C$ often? In your opinion is it a deep machine. Does anybody have the ID Edge and the C$ and are they equal in depth in the field.

By design they are about the same horse power, if not the same! (That means that its possible to get an extra good one that could trump the other on depth)

The ID-Edge came after the C$, and to make the edge they stripped down (simplified) the C$, then topped that off with a few pre-installed programs.
Both run in the 7KHZ range, but I don't think they are exactly the frequency.

Deep!
Yes, they are considered to be deep running detectors. They also ID pretty good at depth, I have a Large Cent planted at 8" (been at rest for a little over a year) and the C$ will hit it pretty good and ID it as a quarter, it will also do that with the little CS-5 coil.

The C$ is well known for being wonderful at finding Indian Pennies!
It worse known drawback is that MANY found it to have an equal love for rusty bottle caps! (I haven't heard that about the Edge??)
It is also known to have an un-canny ability to pick out tiny round metal objects in trashy areas.

Mark

Thanks Mark. Your assessment, comparison is the same as mine. I have the Edge and the C$. Wanted to know what others thought. My deepest find with the Edge/10" coil was a brass flat button (same size as a quarter) at a measured 9.5", still lodged in the sidewall bottom. The meter/tones jumped all over the place and depth reading showed about 10" deep. Was curious so I carefully dug the target. The Edge goes deep for sure, had it 2.5 years now. Haven't had the C$ that long, in the field it might be as deep as the Edge. I like both equally, they're basically the same machine/meter/tones, is easy to switch from one to the other. Found a silver U.S. 3 cent piece with both machines, one was is a corn field, the other in the woods. They are tiny thin coins, slip right between the fingers. HH, Dave

That reminds me!
Air Test!
With the stock 8" about as hot as I can run my C$ at home is,
8, -5 (sensitivity 8 and threshold -5,)

Air test for a dime and copper penny.
8" to 8.5" pretty easy (solid) with an average sweep speed, if I pick up the speed to more of a fast sweep I can get 9" to 9.5" pretty solid, 10" gets iffy.

Mark

Yes, the CS is one of the deepest machines ever made in non-mineralized soils. It is deeper than anything I've compared it to in dry clay. I've gone behind Minelabs, Tesoros & Nautilus DMC IIB's and found stuff they couldn't hear with the owners standing right there. The 10.5" coil does go over an inch deeper than the 8".
When the sun is setting and many machines are going nuts from the dew, the CS just keeps on ticking. And you are correct..the hottest signal for the CS seems to be the silver dime. They musta tuned it for that. -=john=-

THE EDGE IS A BETTER MACHINE IN I.D. SAME DEPTH,C.S. MORE HEAVY.

hiya guys,,,talkin depth,,how good is the 1270 in comparison with the coinstrike,,,as i was told it was fishers best relic machine,,?? rgds

Today I went to a field where I found a Seated dime, Barber dime and IH penny last summer, no keepers today, soil is mild. I buried a clad dime at a measured 8" and a clad quarter at 10" and another quarter at 8". Had the 8" coil, it hit the dime with about 7 out of 10 sweeps. Hit the 10" quarter with about 4 out of 10 sweeps. They both had jumpy ID numbers (some minus, mostly plus) and mixed tones, nothing I would dig, sounded exactly like junk. The 8" quarter was a good diggable signal. This detector seems to go deeper in the soil than in air tests. Does the soil somehow help the audio circuit?

they seem about equal in depth with 8" coils, but the Edge gave a more accurate ID on coins 7" and 8" deep. The C$ gave iron tones, the Edge gave about 30% high tones plus mid and low tones. When I put the Edge coil on the C$ the ID improved, was about the same as the Edge. Gonna start using the Edge coil on the C$. Found a 1910 wheatie and a 1890 IH penny today using the C$ with Edge coil.

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they seem about equal in depth with 8" coils, but the Edge gave a more accurate ID on coins 7" and 8" deep. The C$ gave iron tones, the Edge gave about 30% high tones plus mid and low tones. When I put the Edge coil on the C$ the ID improved, was about the same as the Edge. Gonna start using the Edge coil on the C$. Found a 1910 wheatie and a 1890 IH penny today using the C$ with Edge coil.

Do you have the adapter to adapt the edge coil to the C$.
I know my Sunray CS-5 coil came with a adapter cable to use the coil on the ID Edge.
It was my understanding that the coil connectors are the same, but that something was different in the wiring, yes/no?

Mark

Mark, I don't have any adapter, the Edge coil plugs into the C$ socket, coil works fine. But the C$ coil won't work on the Edge because the C$ cable shielding is grounded when plugged in. Unsolder the ground wire and it will work on the Edge and on the C$. I don't know why the C$ cable is grounded.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/29/2012 06:23PM by jabbo.

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jabbo
Mark, I don't have any adapter, the Edge coil plugs into the C$ socket, coil works fine. But the C$ coil won't work on the Edge because the C$ cable shielding is grounded when plugged in. Unsolder the ground wire and it will work on the Edge and on the C$. I don't know why the C$ cable is grounded.

Thanks "jabbo"

Mark

Turn averaging "ON". You will get better performance. Round objects will lock better, deeper.

Leave it on unless you are in heavy iron and are chasing the blips.

HH
Mike

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With the Sun Ray CS-1 probe is used, you don't need to use the adapter or do anything but flip the switch....
Bj