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I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: Greg (E.Tn)
Date: September 28, 2017 09:19PM
I heard they were working on a waterproof pulse machine that discriminates.

Anybody know the skinny on this?

Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: jim tn
Date: September 29, 2017 04:43AM
Been rumored for quite some time, Greg. HH jim tn

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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: lytle78
Date: September 29, 2017 07:45AM
This much is known.

Fisher has confirmed that they have acquired the assets of the Manta development program and hired Alexandre Tartar the French physicist who designed it.

They have confirmed that they are proceeding with the development of PI detectors based on this technology.

The Manta prototypes were waterproof PI’s which had excellent depth, easily saw through black sand and demonstrated a form of iron audio id as well as an option of discriminating out the iron.

This video made at a beach in northern France (not so far from Dunkirque). The audio is in French, bit it’s pretty obvious what they are demonstrating. As far as whether there is some kind of fakery involved - First Texas must have been pretty satisfied that the Manta could do what was shown in order for them to make the acquisition.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G8sdp4RG73g&feature=youtu.be

No one outside the First Texas team knows what will eventually emerge from the development program and when we will see it.

So, it seems like there is room for optimism. A deep seeking, waterproof PI with a useful form of iron ID would be a first.



Rick Kempf



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2017 07:52AM by lytle78.

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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: REVIER
Date: September 29, 2017 08:00AM
Yes, rumors have been around for awhile....little clues have been posted on several forums for awhile.
Dave Johnson applied for a patent on some new pulse design awhile ago, as lytle78 mentioned they just hired a French guy with some new ideas about a unit called the Aquamanta that has a very interesting vid out there, and a few people that have taken tours of the factory have hinted they had seen them working on some new technology and/or designs that are different and could be mind blowing but they are sworn to secrecy.

FTP is the kind of company that keeps things close to the vest up until they are close to releasing any new product.
Literally a few weeks or even days away from release and I doubt they have recently changed.
Till they are ready we won't know anything, no info coming from them, anyway, but we FTP guys still have hope something will happen soon.
Look at what they have done recently...
Lowered prices on Flagship Fisher and Teknetics models, rebranding and changing prices on a few other units down their lines, dropping others.
They are making room for something, maybe a few somethings...that much is obvious.
None of this is being done because they got bored....they have some sort of plan in the works but we just don't know what it is...yet.
Patience is the watchword, let's hope we will be rewarded sometime soon.



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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: MI-AuAg
Date: September 29, 2017 09:41AM
Of particular significance to me, I believe, Carl (Geotech) Moreland is now collaborating with First Texas!

He brings a wealth of knowledge and experience, to an already solid design engeneering team, of Dave Johnson and crew.

Couple that with the acquisition of the the Manta tecnology, and hiring of Mr. Tartar, as mentioned by Rick, and I for one, am very encouraged as to what FTP may have in the works!

I continue to believe that Pulse Induction technology holds the most promise for continued advancement in a significant way for metal detecting hobbyist's.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2017 09:45AM by MI-AuAg.

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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: lytle78
Date: September 29, 2017 10:05AM
As far as I can determine, Carl is the Engineering Manager at First Texas - Dave Johnson is the Chief Designer.



Rick Kempf

Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: MI-AuAg
Date: September 29, 2017 10:59AM
Works for me Rick.

Dave has been Chief Design Engineer there for a while. Whatever Carl's title may be, what's important is, you don't amass the amount of knowledge and abilty in the R&D department First Texas has, with the intent of them doing crossword puzzles.
First Texas is clearly developing some, hopefully significant, new equipment technically speaking.

Plenty of reason to look in their direction with optimism, and a bit of anticipation, if you're into detecting, IMO.

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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: lytle78
Date: September 29, 2017 01:21PM
Here's a team picture - it was on Facebook a while back. Carl (with beard) and Dave are the last two guys on the right in the pic.





Rick Kempf


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Wow. Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.
Posted by: Greg (E.Tn)
Date: September 30, 2017 09:46AM
I certainly hope it is all true. And if Fisher builds another water machine, we all know it will be built like a tank.

Thanks again for the kind replies.

What ever happened to the Mosca rumors?
Posted by: bugg
Date: October 04, 2017 07:27AM
Supposedly to be released in 2016 I believe. An all terrain waterproof unit.
All rumors and no new flagships. If I was the ceo of this company, I might be embarrassed..
I wish them well.

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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: greenmeanie
Date: October 10, 2017 11:12AM
I would of been happy to see the Mosca rumor.



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Re: Wow. Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: October 11, 2017 04:26AM
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Greg (E.Tn)
I certainly hope it is all true. And if Fisher builds another water machine, we all know it will be built like a tank.

Thanks again for the kind replies.

That is the problem !

But if its light then the cost !



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Re: Wow. Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.
Posted by: MI-AuAg
Date: October 11, 2017 01:30PM
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Nuke em
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Greg (E.Tn)
I certainly hope it is all true. And if Fisher builds another water machine, we all know it will be built like a tank.

Thanks again for the kind replies.

That is the problem !

But if its light then the cost !

The CZ water machine platform while durable, and somewhat heavy, is 1990's era build standards. It remains one of the best saltwater machines to this day.

FTP has been a leader for the last 10+ years in producing lightweight machines, all in the 2.5-3.5 lb range, with very good ergonomics. I would expect that to continue with their next generation multi-freq.saltwater detector.

As to price, it would have to be competatively priced to compete with the current new offerings from other manufacturers, unless of course it contains better performance/technology to justify a higher cost.

Re: Wow. Thanks to everyone who replied to my post.
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: October 11, 2017 04:19PM
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MI-AuAg
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Nuke em
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Greg (E.Tn)
I certainly hope it is all true. And if Fisher builds another water machine, we all know it will be built like a tank.

Thanks again for the kind replies.

That is the problem !

But if its light then the cost !

The CZ water machine platform while durable, and somewhat heavy, is 1990's era build standards. It remains one of the best saltwater machines to this day.

FTP has been a leader for the last 10+ years in producing lightweight machines, all in the 2.5-3.5 lb range, with very good ergonomics. I would expect that to continue with their next generation multi-freq.saltwater detector.

As to price, it would have to be competitively priced to compete with the current new offerings from other manufacturers, unless of course it contains better performance/technology to justify a higher cost.

I have seen some of the newer machines about and some are lighter but no for me. As for Multi freq that we will have to wait and see , minelab have done many patents over the years and i dont know much about the tech but that may be a problem for Fisher ? Minelab will be watching .
Fisher has been thinking of a multi freq machine for ages but nothing has happened , even if it does . For me it may not matter , i like and am too wired into Minelab now and dont like changing that much.
But we'll see.



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Re: I heard a rumor about a new metal detector by Fisher. Is it true?
Posted by: Cal_Cobra
Date: October 14, 2017 01:20PM
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