Whites XLT Classroom Forum

I know mixed mode audio works but the noise gives me an excedrin headache..best explanation I ever read on mixed mode audio was given by the book Spectrum Secrets for those who can take the constant audio....I believe the 2nd or 3rd edition is still in publication if you google.....along how to buy..
Personally I start with the relic mode preset and raise AC sens., DC sens. VDI sens. and Preamp Gain.....which also make for noisy mode but if you correlate the 4 aforementioned facets(in other words don't make one extremely high) with moderate increases in the others...For your info many feel preamp gain tops off at about 6 and from 6-15 expect 1/2 inch in increased depth while making your unit becoming unstable at best and don't mention that 15 preamp program as it drove my unit insane..
INPUT appreciated as always learning and we all know no special secret programs just programs that work in our neck of the woods..

PS: trying to liven up the forum and who knows we all might learn from the meeting of the minds...

Dan, I think that's what is great about the XLT,you can adapt it to almost any area, every place I have taken mine in the past 7 years , I just fine tune it for the area, I use a modified beach program, with many tones and except -49 to +95 and dig what I like on any given day

A lot of time i use mixmode and silent search allows me to increase everything yes i know what the manual says about using silent search with mix mod says it wont work properly but what i think they are saying is why would you be in all metal without listening to everything,but if you turn visual disc off you will see everything on screen and a target has to be a little stronger to break through i also open -95 94 93,almost all spikes in that area are a unusual target a lot of times wrap around from +95 you will achieve a little more depth as you go into the negative numbers -1 to - 30 ,another one i like to use is prospecting mode then turn on audio disc on and make some adjustments.This stuff works for me but dont know if it will hep you and again Montes programs are pretty hot they will find alot of stuff but it is open up and you dont want to tangle in heavy trash with his programs or you wil be digging a lot. Hope this helps

The only other option left after All Metal, (Mixed Mode) is a larger coil and the skill of the operator.

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Bells and whistles are nice, but nothing will substitute for the basic understanding of the hobby.

CTX 3030, V3i, M6 W/Bigfoot coil, Cibola/modified

My MM program setup is similar to MXT's Alt Relic (trigger forward), 0 to -95 rejects with a low tone and 1 to +95 accepts with a high tone. Whats great about the XLT is you can get very specific on target accept/reject for superb notching and cherry pick in MM by just listening for the sweet high tone and ignoring the lows.

I've heard many mention using Tone ID "ON" with MM, no thanks, way to busy and kind of defeats the purpose of MM anyway. This method can certainly make you reach for some Excedrin Dan, have you tried Dual Tone ? Sometimes there's just to many targets in area for MM, that's when I use discrimination, but I always follow up that area in MM to get the good targets that were masked by discrimination.

Larger coils certainly add depth, my favorite being the Sierra 12" HotShot, just had mine rebuilt and got lucky and found one used thats like brand new for a backup. I use White's 15" too, does surprisingly well on coin sized targets.

in a lot of post of the XLT. Is this a coil made by whites? I have looked on their site and don't see anything?

I believe the coil he is talking about is out of production and was short lived and not a good seller but perhaps Monte can chime in...Its been a while but if I remember correctly they had problems with this coil , but exactly what I can't recall...Probably like hens teeth to find one used...

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Monte-I have seen you mention the thin-profile 8" in a lot of post of the XLT. Is this a coil made by whites? I have looked on their site and don't see anything?

Yes, the thin-profile 8" coils I am referring to were made by White's. They were all designed for the 6.59 kHz models, and one reason you might not find them in any current White's literature is because they have now discontinued the XLT, which was the last of the general hobby-use detectors in that frequency. Sad, but true.

The reason I make mention of a 'thin profile' 8" coil is because the older White;s coils were more saucer-shaped on the bottom. They looked much like the 5.3 BullsEye or 5.3 Eclipse is side-view, except larger because they were 8" in diameter instead of 6½". Then they did make some thin-profile 8" in their Blue Max series, and some experimentation with them didn't hold up for ruggedness, perhaps, to hold the windings in position. If you spot one of the burgundy-colored 8" coils, the Royal 800, or some of the Pro Scan 800 coils, you'll note that these (most of them) area thin-profile design and not the thicker body with the saucer bottom portion.

I like the thin body 8" coils over the 950's because the rod mounting spot is closer to the coil's center which make them balance better, they just feel better, and there is very little difference in detection depth between them for most hunting needs we have.

Monte