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Recovery speed
Posted by: ronhob
Date: September 01, 2012 01:59AM
What metal detector has the fastest recovery speed ( In your opinion).
I think the xterras do very well, but the f75's seem noticeably faster.
I also wonder where the mxt pros fall in line in comparison to the xterra's speed.

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Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: DirtAngler
Date: September 01, 2012 09:34AM
The Xterra is pretty good at a normal swing speed. The XP Deus would have to be listed as one of the fastest. Coil selection plays a big part in seperation abilities as well.



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Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: Nuke em
Date: September 03, 2012 10:50AM
The Deus is the fastest by a bit but the F75 is close too . But speed is not always the main thing to consider, its the target information that is the most important and i hated the Deus for tones and the erratic numbers. So slowing down makes it better so what is the point of the speed ? Take your time and you will find all , rush and you will miss much.



Uses- Minelab E.Trac , Minelab X.Terra 705 , X.P. Deus , 2 x Garrett probe

Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: coinjumper
Date: September 04, 2012 01:15PM
MXT a lot faster, have both, tesoro is the fastest I've used

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Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: Old Longhair
Date: September 04, 2012 07:28PM
The direction that this thread is heading incites me to inject this.

First, I believe that the word recovery is not accurate. I believe that what you're referring to is reset speed. The amount of time required to 'reset' between objects detected.
Recovery to me means that something has been lost, therefore needing 'recovery'. Like a lost coin or relic that we 'recover'.

Now on to speed.
It has been my experience that the more basic a machine is the 'faster' it is, and inversly, the more information that a machine is capable of delivering to the user the slower it is.....most else being equal. Older basic designs incorporate potentiameters, variable resistors, and the like, have single tone, have no notch capability, and have no display. Therefore they are 'faster'.
More complex newer digital designs that deliver tons of information to the user with multiple tones and a display screen are processing far more information, and that takes time. If you want adjustable ground balance, or auto ground balance, or ground balance tracking, or tracking offset, all of those require processor capacity. If you want a numeric TID, firmware must be written to interpret what the machine sees into that value, and then display it. That takes more processor capacity. Etc... You see where this is going?

For the amount of information that an Xterra is capable of displaying, and all of the auto/adjustable features that it has, it is in no way a slow machine. Compared to other newer MineLab machines, it's actually pretty quick. The FBS machines process more and different information than the Xterra's, so a direct comparison is not easy, but if you want to experience slow....get an Explorer. The E-Trac and FBS2 CTX3030 both have larger faster processors, so they remain pretty fast even though they are processing HUGE amounts of information and providing it to the user. The larger and more capable the procesor required, the more firmware required to process all of that digital information, the multiple tones available for targets, and the display that delivers it all cost money, and is what some of us are willing to pay for.

If you decide that you don't want or need that information, then don't buy a MineLab. If a few tones, notchable disc, adjustable GB, adjustable SENS, and a digital display are all that you want, a Fisher, Teknetics, or something along those lines might be for you, and they will seem 'faster'.
And if that's too much, then a Tesoro might be right up your ally. Depending on how elaborate a model you choose, it might be either like lightning or not so fast.

Just remember, unless you're in a competitive hunt, this isn't a race. There's a reason that MineLab owners are successful....slow or not.



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Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: coinjumper
Date: September 04, 2012 07:46PM
Yeah, what OL said

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Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: ronhob
Date: September 04, 2012 08:07PM
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Old Longhair
The direction that this thread is heading incites me to inject this.

First, I believe that the word recovery is not accurate. I believe that what you're referring to is reset speed. The amount of time required to 'reset' between objects detected.
Recovery to me means that something has been lost, therefore needing 'recovery'. Like a lost coin or relic that we 'recover'.

Now on to speed.
It has been my experience that the more basic a machine is the 'faster' it is, and inversly, the more information that a machine is capable of delivering to the user the slower it is.....most else being equal. Older basic designs incorporate potentiameters, variable resistors, and the like, have single tone, have no notch capability, and have no display. Therefore they are 'faster'.
More complex newer digital designs that deliver tons of information to the user with multiple tones and a display screen are processing far more information, and that takes time. If you want adjustable ground balance, or auto ground balance, or ground balance tracking, or tracking offset, all of those require processor capacity. If you want a numeric TID, firmware must be written to interpret what the machine sees into that value, and then display it. That takes more processor capacity. Etc... You see where this is going?

For the amount of information that an Xterra is capable of displaying, and all of the auto/adjustable features that it has, it is in no way a slow machine. Compared to other newer MineLab machines, it's actually pretty quick. The FBS machines process more and different information than the Xterra's, so a direct comparison is not easy, but if you want to experience slow....get an Explorer. The E-Trac and FBS2 CTX3030 both have larger faster processors, so they remain pretty fast even though they are processing HUGE amounts of information and providing it to the user. The larger and more capable the procesor required, the more firmware required to process all of that digital information, the multiple tones available for targets, and the display that delivers it all cost money, and is what some of us are willing to pay for.

If you decide that you don't want or need that information, then don't buy a MineLab. If a few tones, notchable disc, adjustable GB, adjustable SENS, and a digital display are all that you want, a Fisher, Teknetics, or something along those lines might be for you, and they will seem 'faster'.
And if that's too much, then a Tesoro might be right up your ally. Depending on how elaborate a model you choose, it might be either like lightning or not so fast.

Just remember, unless you're in a competitive hunt, this isn't a race. There's a reason that MineLab owners are successful....slow or not.
Well said! That is exactly the kinda info I was looking for.

Reset speed is a more accurate description of what I meant. Thanks!

Re: Recovery speed
Posted by: argyle
Date: September 12, 2012 03:30AM
We've used the term Recovery Speed for decades now when referring to each detector and the time it takes to recover itself from one signal to the next, or between nulling and a signal etc. And think It's an accurate terminology.

Reset Speed on the other hand, is inaccurate as most units do not reset themselves to any form of sensitivity, balance or notching between targets. I love the recovery speed on XTerra's and think it is right on and a great match with the information provided.

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