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Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: October 22, 2009 11:34AM
Now If I lived in the ole US of A I would spend my holidays here
http://www.ghosttownsusa.com/okanco.htm
Ghost towns full of lost coins, just imagine if there were 100 000 people there over a time period of 100 years and half of them lost a single coin per year...... the old towns will definitely be worth a dig or two... This website give clues to ferry stops towns roads the lot sighhhhh you lucky fellahs!
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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: November 22, 2009 03:06PM
Another few good places I found on line Good luck to the lucky person who can actually go and find lost goodies!
Stagecoach stops

Something was always happening at a stage stop. They make great treasure hunting sites. Here is a partial listing. Box Elder County: Collingston a/k/a Hampton, five miles northeast of Garland.

Morgan County: Dixie Station a/k/a Carson House Station, five miles southwest of Echo, just over the top of Hog Back Summit.

Summit County: Needle Rock Station, five miles northeast of Wahsatch on the state line; Echo Station a/k/a Castle Rock Station at the head of Echo Canyon.

Tooele County: Tooele Station, two miles northwest of Tooele; Burnt Station, just southwest of Clifton; Round Station, just southwest of Burnt Station; Lost Spring Station, ten miles north of Callao; Simpson Springs Station, between Camp Floyd and Virginia City; Riverbed Station, five miles southwest of Simpson Station near the county line; Faust? Station, 18 miles west southwest of Camp Floyd and Faust; East Rush Station, five miles west southwest of Fairfield on the County Line.

Wasatch County: Hank? Station in a canyon three miles west northwest of Kimball Junction; Kimball Station, just north of Kimball Junction.

Juab County: Boyd? Station, ten miles east southeast of Callao; Black Rock Station, seven miles east of Fish Springs.

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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: November 25, 2009 01:48PM
For those interested in searching ghost or near ghost towns in Alaska, here are several that might be worth checking out. Remember, many of the ghost towns were once gold mining camps, so you could get lucky and find a long forgotten cache of gold.

ANCHORAGE COUNTY: Eklutna and Sunrise near Hope.

BARROW-KOBUK COUNTY: Nigaluk on the Beaufort Sea, Thetis and Corwin Coal Mines, York on the Bearing Sea, Sullivan, Davis, Shelton and Spooner in the Council area, Bluff, Pastolik, and Kikiktak on Norton Sound.

BETHEL COUNTY: Kweegamut and Ingeramut on Nunivak Island, Oganik, Lamagrik, Summer Village and Kwinakamut.

BRISTOL BAY COUNTY: Katmai on Shelikof Strait.

CORDOVA-VALDEZ COUNTY: Chisna, Dempsey, Hogan, Tonsina, Landlock,Beaver Dam, Nelson, Ocra, Abercrombie and Nizina.

FAIRBANKS-FORT YUKON COUNTY: Engineer, Meehan, Dome, Donnelley, Rapids, McCallum, Starr, Chicken and Jack Wade.

JUNEAU COUNTY: Amalga, Douglas and Treadwell on Douglas Island, Snettisham; Sumdum and Windham.

KENIA-COOK COUNTY: Beluga on Cook Inlet.

KETCHIKAN-PRINCE OF WALES COUNTY: Howkan and Jackson on Long Island and Loring on Digedo Island.

KIDIAK COUNTY: Afognak was a Russian settlement on Three Saints Bay that was destroyed by an earthquake in 1792.

SITKA COUNTY: Porcupine on the Canadian border, Dyea, Chilkat, Jualin, Gypsum, Podman on Baranof Island, and old Sitka.

WADE-HAMPTON COUNTY: Pymut on the Yukon River.

WRAMGLER and/or PETERSBURG COUNTY: Tonka and Kupreanof Island, Woedsky and Mitkoff.

YUKON-KUSKOKWIM COUNTY: Fort Gibbon, Glem, Kemperville, Tolovana, Tortella, McKinley, St. Joseph, Holikachek, Koserefsky, Deminti, Ruby, Richmond, Langley and Parks Cinnabar Ledge.

Some of these ghost towns are of Russian and native Eskimo origin while others sprang up when the gold rush occurred. They all could yield relics for the "ghost-towner."

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Pirate gold cashe off the coast of Maine!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: November 27, 2009 01:53PM
Get your wetsuit and diving gear ready for this one! $100 000 000

The pirate Edward Lowe is believed to have buried a huge sum of gold coins, silver bars, and jewels in the Harpswell area at both Haskell Island at the South Harpswell Neck and at the edge of a pond on Pond Island in Casco Bay east of Harpswell. In 1723, he attacked the Spanish ship Don Pedro del Montclova that was traveling from Havana to Spain, commandeered the treasure, and sank the ship. When a British gunboat began pursuing them, Captain Lowe and his men hauled the treasure ashore at the south end of Pond Island in three longboats, and then carried it to the edge of a large pond on the northeast side of the island and tossed the chests, bars of silver, and kegs into the water. Lowe never returned to recover the loot, and was executed by a French court for piracy. Also, a pot of gold coins was found by a farmer on Pond Island so Edward Lowe or other pirates may have regularly hid treasure on this island. The island the lake and you! Don't forget my %10! LOL




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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 04, 2009 02:05PM
Now if this ain't worth a holiday hunt or two I do not know! Imagine finding one of them gold coins? It will be the star in any collectors collection!
Colorado South Park area. Find the Ghost town and swing!!!!!

The mining camp known as Fairplay was founded by disgruntled latecomers to the Tarryall Diggings. These later prospectors moved southwest along the mountain front until they came to the junction of Beaver Creek and the South Platte River. Here, near the headwaters of the South Platte, they found rich placer deposits. As a counterpoint to the greedy miners at Tarryall, the new diggings was called Fairplay. Here, prospectors could get a fair share of the placer beds.


1860 would see the rise of several other mining camps along the foot of the Mosquito Mountains. Hamilton and Tarryall City sprang up downstream from the original Tarryall Diggings while Jefferson appeared northeast of the Diggings, on Jefferson Creek. Hamilton was named for Earl Hamilton, one of the original founders of Tarryall. For awhile, the town thrived but by 1890 it had disappeared. Tarryall City was established in 1860 by prospector William Holman. Located downstream from Hamilton, Tarryall City served as the county seat when South Park was first opened up to mining. In 1861, John Parsons established a private mint at Tarryall City. He produced $2.50 and $5.00 gold pieces during the summer of that year. (These coins are now worth tens of thousands of dollars each!) Tarryall City was also the site of South Park's first newspaper, "The Miners Record", but as promising as the town's start had been, it was not to last. By 1890, Tarryall City was as deserted as Hamilton.

Have I mentioned I am soooOO Jealous?? LOL
S
Ps: here is a map of the area mmmmmm yummmmyyyy



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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Cal_Cobra
Date: December 04, 2009 04:35PM
Silverman these are fun reads :thumbup:

You got anything for Northern California ? :devil:

hh,
Brian

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Brian, here are a few! Have fun!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 05, 2009 07:41AM
San Luis Obispo County - There are numerous caves located through San Luis Obispo County that provided great cover for outlaws during California's Wild West days. Near Avila Beach, a group of bandits were said to have made one of these caves their hiding place where they hid much of there stolen cache. No additional information is available on the exact location of the cave.

Shasta County - Long ago, when a detachment of soldiers were transporting an Army payroll along the road between Redding and Weaverville, California, they were attacked by Indians. While the battle ranged, one soldier had the foresight to bury the gold and marked it by burying his rifle straight up in the ground. He then joined the rest of the soldiers in the frenzied battle. Severely wounded, he was later rescued and taken to French Gulch where he told the story of the attack and buried payroll before he died. Though the army began an immediate search, they were unable to find the rifle or the hidden gold. Many years later, two deer hunters in the vicinity found the rifle and not knowing the story, removed it and took it with them. Today, French Gulch is a sleepy little village located about 10 miles east of Lewiston, California.
Tehama County

Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: T2
Date: December 05, 2009 12:59PM
Silverman!

I live in Hanover County, VA! Whatcha got!!!

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T2 Here would love to be there!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 05, 2009 01:39PM
Treasures of Old House Woods. Legend tell that the heavily forested Old House Woods, often referred to as Haunted Woods or the Black Forest by hunters, is the hiding place of several lost treasures worth millions of dollars. Old House Woods is a 50-acre patch of pine woods and marshlands on the east side of the tiny crossroads of Diggs in Mathews County northeast of Gloucester separated from the Chesapeake Bay by Whites Creek. The area was originally called Werowocomico by the Chiskiake Indians, and later Piankatank, bordered on the north by the Piankatank River, and was home to bustling seaports from the pre-Revolutionary through the Civil War era. There have been an extremely high number of reports of paranormal activity around Old House Woods and the surrounding creek waters, said to be one of the most haunted places in Virginia, with ghostly figures of ships, pirates, cavaliers, and witches, noises, and assaults on persons and vehicles, with the wind howling, trees bending and creaking, and the forest being very dark at night as the trees are so thick they virtually obscure any visible moon or stars. According to one of the treasure tales, a band of pirates buried their treasure in the woods on the banks of Whites Creek, and set out to acquire more, but were killed in a storm before they could ever retrieve it. It is thought that perhaps theirs is the phantom ship that is reputedly seen both hovering above the woods and in Whites Creek. Another well-known treasure story relating to the area tells of chests of treasure being sent to Jamestown from England by Charles II following the Battle of Worcester in 1651 in case he had to flee the country and go into exile. Due to stormy weather, the crew mistakenly went up the wrong creek and ended up instead at Whites Creek where they were attacked by bandits while unloading the chests. The robbers got away with some of the treasure, and the remainder was said to have been buried by the crew in the woods who planned to return for it, but their ship capsized in the storm and they were all lost. The advance party upon returning to report to the King what happened were put to death. Many have reported seeing in the woods ghost diggers with their lanterns ablaze at night in the vicinity, and attribute this to the story of the lost English treasure. Yet a third treasure story dates to later following the Revolutionary War in 1781 when a large cache of patriot plunder consisting of gold and silver coins, jewelry, and other valuables was buried in four large cannons at a graveyard near the mouth of Whites Creek in the Haunted Woods by soldiers under British General Cornwallis. This may be true as there is at least one old cemetery nearby, and Cornwallis likely passed through the vicinity on his flight from Greensboro to Wilmington, N.C., and to Yorktown, Virginia. Cornwallis and his men surrendered later that year with only 2,000 silver coins in a trunk found in their possession, and were held as prisoners until a prisoner exchange could be worked out. They were never permitted to return to reclaim any treasure. The area is named after an old house that was once located in the center of these haunted woods. It apparently caught fire once and put itself out, and then caught fire again later and burned to the ground. If you follow Old House Woods Road, or Rt. 704, going east, the road starts out paved with homes, and appears to end at the woods, but a dirt road continues into the woods all the way to Whites Creek, and this is still part of Old House Woods Road, riddled with potholes at last report.

Old House Woods Road, Diggs, Virginia. Along the Chesapeake Bay. (Road Map) (Aerial View) (Topographical Map)

Miscellaneous other comments related to Old House Woods:

Mathews was originally called Werowocomico by the Chiskiake Indians. This tribe originated in present day York County. After the 1622 and 1644 rebellions, they were given a reservation on the southern bank of the Piankatank River. The area known as Mathews was once Kingston Parish, part of Gloucester County. The county was once covered with forests of Live Oak trees, the wood of which is very well suited to ship construction. The Continental Navy built many of its ships in Mathews during the American Revolution. Nearby haunted nursing home/boys home within 5 minute walk of the woods.

There have been tales of a strange light that can be seen hovering over the trees, just before the shoreline of Haven Beach. Stories of a ghostly woman, in a tattered white dress, emerging from the waves and walking down the beach. There is a haunted lighthouse. The foundations of the old house that caught fire, put it's self out, and then later burned down to the bedrock. Old House Woods is only about forty square acres. Not big at all. But there are at least four accounts on record of people going off into the woods, and never being heard from again.

Blackbeard, the famous pirate captain supposedly brought some of his treasure here to hide it. He forced several of his men to dig the hole at gunpoint. And then, he shot them, and threw their bodies in the pit with his takings. This is an old pirate superstition that is supposed to protect his treasure from thieves and other adventurers. And some have claimed to have seen men, madly digging in the night, while another person supervises with his pistol in hand. Others have seen a great ghost ship in a creeping fog, complete with lanterns and accompanied by ethereal chanting and organ music.

From Cricket Hill, which overlooks Gwynn's Island, Continental cannons drove the last of Virginia's Royal Governors, Lord Dunmore from Virginia's shores in 1776.

According to the Mathews County Historical Society, the area was named after an old house named "Roxbury," also known as the Stoakes plantation, that was built in the center of the woods, the remains of which lies along Old House Woods Road, also referred to as Rt. 704. According to legend, one of the early owners of "Roxbury" shot silver bullets made from spoons into the chimney to keep the witches out, and the chimney brickwork has a witch's head carved into it with a date of 1699. It is in the Stutts Creek Watershed area./Milford Haven area. Haven Beach. William's Wharf original customs house port of entry. There is public access to state waters in the area are Whites Canal Landing, Haven Landing, and Haven Beach.

Lists Stoakes near Billups, and a Diggs servant. Piankatank River named by Chief Powhatan. to the north is Stokes (Stoakes) Creek, and to the northwest is Billups Creek (all early families who lived in the old house and adjoining house). Roxbury had Callis, Lilly, Billups, etc. Stoakes Plantation.

Christopher Stokes emigrated from his native Stanshawes, Gloucestershire, England to Jamestown, Virginia in 1624. He afterwards settled a plantation called "Stokes Neck" in Charles River County which later became York County, where he died before 1646, leaving a will and issue.

Haven Beach Rd. is to the right, it goes around the woods and ends at a public beach. There are stories about Haven Beach too. Franklin Stokes born 1835 on 1870 census in Piankatank, living by Billups and Diggs. In 1860 many Billups in Magisterial District No. 2 of Matthews County, living by many Diggs, Stoakes, Lilly, and Callis. In 1930, Walter R. Stoakes age 82 lived in East Part of Westville District, and listed as in Westville in 1910 at age 63, and in 1880. Garden Creek Road and Lilles Jack Road. Billups, Diggs, and Lilley listed in first in area in 1810 with "no township listed," and just Mathews County. Mathews County originally part of Gloucester County. There is a glow on the aerial map at the Stoakes inlet.

Roxbury sits at the end of a long dirt drive at a bend of State Route 644 (Lilly's Neck Rd) on 62.7 acres of flat, rural farmland bordered by Stoakes Creek on the northeast and Route 644 on the west. Although the water is not visible from the house, it can be reached by traveling down an obscure grassy path bordered on both sides by pines and low vegetation. At the end of the path, the trees open up to reveal a breathtaking view of the waters of Stoakes and Whites Creeks, with Hole-in-the-Wall off to the northeast. Portions of Lilly's Neck, Tick Island, and Rigby Island are visible in the distance.

It was in the attic at "Roxbury" that Mrs. Walter R. Stoakes found a collection of old documents now known as the "Lilly, Billups, Stoakes Family Papers," held in the collection of the Earl Gregg Swem Library of the College of William and Mary. The papers contain portions of records relating to early Mathews, including fragments of the will of George Billups, dated 1673. "Roxbury" itself, and the nearby home called "Watcombe Manor," are located on property that was once part of the original patent of 1200 acres to George Billups. Society member Gordon Keith researched the property and noted that the parcels containing both houses were combined as recently as the 1980's. The parcels were joined in the 1600's until the 19th century, split, rejoined, and then split again. The Watcombe house, which is larger and grander, contains the cemetery and is associated with the Hudgins and Stoakes families. The Roxbury property is associated with the families of Billups, Lilly, Callis, and Stoakes or Stokes. The "Roxbury" house is described in records at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources.

Re: T2 Here would love to be there!
Posted by: T2
Date: December 05, 2009 01:50PM
Wow! I could ghost hunt or relic hunt! Man, you do have some great resources for finding places to hunt! The only problem is getting on these sites. People are always funny about us diggers. Get a plane ticket to VA and we can try to charm them into letting us dig! I could use some gold right about now!!!!!

Thanks again for this info!

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Uk Spots Old Saxon map....
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 06, 2009 03:13AM
I can't upload the old 1595 map it is just to huge! However with some clever deducting and detective work (Ask the locals) you should find a few good hunting sites. Remember ask for permission do NOT Nighthawk you are destroying an innocent hobby!
Map here
http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/hantsmap/hantsmap/norden5/nrd5smaf.htm

Please ask permission or offer to pay for the day!
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I will be off-line for a few weeks!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 09, 2009 12:55PM
WIll update and send new information as soon as I get back! Have a good Festive season hunt ya all (LOL)
Have Fun!
S

Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Cal_Cobra
Date: December 10, 2009 01:55AM
Andy I hope your bringing your detector! Enjoy your trip and enjoy the Holidays :thumbup:

Looking forward to more treasure tales when you return :clapping:

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I have signal on me Yacht heehaaa A few more places to hunt!:beers:
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 19, 2009 01:33PM
A few years ago I interviewed an old man who was well over ninety years of age, a man who had spent most of his life close to Farm Creek. He told me a story which I paid little heed to at the time, but later I came across almost certain proof that his story was true. He told me how in the early days there was an Indian whose name was Nephi Winchester, but who was better known to white men as Bill Pritchett. He was very rich and influential, and he was a brother-in-law of David Copperfield, a Ute tribal leader. Pritchett claimed that he owned a forty acre piece of land which actually belonged to a poor Indian woman named Alice One-Leg. Her real name was Itch-A-Boom Cuch, but because she had been born with only one leg, she was always called Alice One-Leg. Being her neighbor, the white man knew that the land belonged to her, so he agreed to go with her to the Indian court at Fort Duchesne and testify in her behalf. But it so happened that Pritchett had more influence with the court than either he or the old woman had, so she lost her land. Still, she was grateful for her white friend's help. During the next few years before she died, he helped her in other small ways, truly being a good neighbor.



During that interview, the old man told me that shortly before her death, Alice One-Leg called him to her cabin where she told him a very strange story. She said that before the Ute Reservation was opened to settlement by white men, the government had made a treaty agreeing to pay the Utes a settlement of $1.25 per acre for certain lands. Washington also agreed to pay $25,000 in gold coin at that time and an equal amount each year thereafter until the debt was paid. She said that the payment was made to the tribe in twenty-dollar gold pieces, twenty-five coins each in fifty leather bags. But the Old Ones, tribal elders, feared dividing so much money among the young bucks, afraid that they would spend it foolishly on the white man's fire-water, so it was decided to hide most of it until the land settlement was completed and tensions lessened. Alice One-Leg said that the gold was taken to a place along Farm Creek where it was cached in a location known to only a few of the Old Ones. She described that place to her white friend as her way of thanking him for his past kindness to her.



A close examination of treaties made between the Ute Tribe and the government reveals that what Alice One-Leg said was true. In a treaty negotiated by Col. H.O. Irish on January 8, 1865, the Ute Indians agreed to move to the Uinta Basin, relinquishing their claims to all other lands in the Utah Territory. In return the government promised to pay the tribe $25,000 in gold each year for ten years, $20,000 annually for the next twenty years and $15,000 for each of the following thirty years. During that same year, 1865, Brigham Young advised the Utes through Chief Sowiette that they should accept the government's offer, promising that the Utes would receive $900,000 over a sixty-year period, actually $150,000 less that Col. Irish had negotiated. That discrepancy wasn't explained, but it mattered little to Chief Sowiette who told Young, "We do not want to sell our land, we want to live by the graves of our fathers." Because the government disagreed with Brigham Young's Indian policies, it took congress nearly forty years to approve that payment, a clause in the agreement stating: "The Indians are to be paid in gold coin, they will not accept paper currency."



The payment made to the Ute Tribe may have in fact been even larger, for in 1902, just before much of the reservation was declared to be public domain, the same agreement which granted the Raven and Florence mining companies special advantages over other settlers, also provided for payment to the tribe for claims made against the government for lands already taken from them. That section of the agreement stated in part: "The sum of seventy-thousand and sixty-four dollars and forty-eight cents is hereby appropriated; ten-thousand dollars of that sum being compensation for deletion of certain lands on the reservation's east boundary, those proceeds to be applied for the benefit of the Indians."



By order of Col. Irish on March 2, 1868, all white men were to be moved from the reservation, the boundaries of which were described as being: "The entire valley of the Uintah River, extending on both sides to the crest of the mountains." That area was interpreted to include all lands from the Strawberry Valley to the Green River and from the crest of the Uinta Mountains to the Book Cliffs. After the Uinta Basin was designated as a reservation, the first Indian Agency was established at the head of Daniels Canyon, during the early spring of 1868. That location proved to be impractical because even then snow covered the summit six feet deep, so the agency was moved to the foot of Tabby Mountain near Hanna. Shortly afterwards it was moved again, to near present Utahn at the forks of the Duchesne River an Rock Creek; but most business was conducted at the Indian village at Sadies Flat, a few miles further up Rock Creek. It was decided that location was too remote so another and final move was made to the Whiterocks Indian Village, on Christmas Day, 1868. Shortly afterwards a trading post and sutler's store were established at Whiterocks.



Several dozen agents and traders have been assigned to the Indian Agency at Whiterocks over the years, but the one who served the longest was Robert Marimon, who came from Kentucky to be Post Trader in October, 1902, and remained in that position until 1928, when he sold out to Oscar Lyman. Marimon had also worked at the Ouray Trading Post on the Green River as early as 1886. Marimon's son continued to work at the Whiterocks post until it burned in 1930. From Marimon's post records as well as from the reminiscences of his daughter, Sarah, we know that the Ute Tribe was in fact paid $25,000 in gold coin just as Alice One-Leg said, and as the treaty stipulated when the reservation was opened to settlement.



"Each Indian, even the smallest baby, is to be given forty acres of land, and each family at least eighty acres; grazing lands to belong to the tribe in general. Rights to hunt and fish are guaranteed." So proclaimed the opening section of the treaty of 1902, when the Utes lost their ancestral lands. Prior to the land rush of 1905, Post Trader Marimon was advised to stock up on all manner of goods, since it was anticipated that when the Indians were paid for their lands, they would buy everything in his store. In correspondence with the author, Sarah Marimon wrote that the gold payment was made just as ordered, with at least part of it if not all being given to designated Indians. She wrote: "They bought everything we had in the store!" She also described the method in which payment was made to the tribe. "A military escort brought the gold to Whiterocks and remained to ensure that no white man came in to gamble with the Indians. But they gambled among themselves, playing the stick game, using twenty-dollar gold coins stacked like poker chips. I never saw so much money in my life!"



That a lot of those gold coins were lost by Indians who gambled with them is shown in a letter received from Anthony Colunga in September 1982. Colunga described how after months of negotiation, he finally obtained permission to use a metal detector at Whiterocks. Although he was allowed only two days to search, during all of which time it rained constantly, he recovered more than 200 coins, including many gold pieces and silver dollars. During that short search he was not allowed to use his detector at the old Indian gambling ground north of the village, where no doubt even more valuable coins were lost. It is also known that an Indian who lives at Whiterocks has recovered many valuable gold coins, many in new mint condition, which indicates they were lost soon after their receipt. Also found was a gold medallion with the likeness of President Buchanan engraved on it.

There is still more evidence to substantiate the story told by Alice One Leg. Don Carlos Foote, a part-blood Ute, told Stan Sharkey that he knew of several gold coins being found in Rough Canyon, just off Farm Creek. Perhaps connected in some way with those coins were two very old muskets found at nearby Winchester Flat, and just off that flat, two cannons which were pushed off a ledge into the canyon below, where they still remain, covered with dirt and brush. A lot of strange things have happened in that country, from Rough Canyon and Winchester Flat to the Lower Stillwater along Rock Creek.



Several years ago two men were camped in that area. While one spent the day fishing, his companion took his back-pack and a rifle and began to climb up to the ridge which separates Rock Creek from Farm Creek. Nightfall came, but he never returned to camp. His partner was agonizing over what to do, when just after midnight he came running and stumbling into camp. It was obvious that he had been subjected to a trying ordeal, for his clothes were ripped and torn, his hands and face were blood-smeared and he no longer had his back-pack and rifle. He immediately began throwing camp gear into their pickup truck and insisted they get away from that place immediately. His friend tried to calm him so they could wait until morning to break camp, but he was so frightened that they left in the middle of the night. Wild-eyed and hysterical, he refused to talk about what he had seen, other than to say he had been in Hell Hole.



Later, during the summer of 1991, that fisherman returned alone to that same area, his companion refusing to return to those mountains where he had been so frightened by someone, or something. He made his camp at Rock Springs, near the head of Farm Creek. One day he decided to hike over into the area where his companion had gone, although by a different route. Maybe if he was lucky, he might find his friend's backpack and rifle. About two miles along the ridge leading to Hell Hole, he was stopped by two Indians. When he asked if he was on the right trail, they told him to get back to Rock Springs and nor to come back. He was surprised that they knew where he was camped, for he had seen no one while there, but one of the Indians told him that he had been watched every time he had been in those mountains. They even told him what kind of vehicle he was driving. Believing that he knew that area well, he started to explain that Hell Hole was not on Indian ground, but was on forest land. He said those two Indians suddenly became very mean and gave him "some extremely blatant warnings" that he better get out of that country and be quick about it. One of them added: "If you come back, your chances of leaving will be slim to none!"



After he broke camp he drove to Duchesne City, where he stopped at the Forest Ranger's office to make sure he had been on forest land and also to ask what was so special about Hell Hole that he had been prevented from going there. The answer he received was, in his own words, "That Forest Ranger acted as if I had said something bad about his mother! He got really hot! I thought he was going to lock me up!" He then asked the ranger if he could get a map of the Hell Hole area, to which request the ranger "became extremely offensive," and warned him not to go near that area. His friend had been frightened out of his wits at Hell Hole, the Indians had threatened him with dire consequences if he ever came back and the Forest Ranger ordered him not to go there. He then said he had only one question for me: "What the heck is so special about Hell Hole?"



I have an idea about what is so "special" about the Hell Hole area. Gold coins! There is no doubt that Alice One-Leg told the truth when she said the Ute Tribe was paid $25,000 in gold coin. Very likely the tribe also received other annual payments in gold, payments which few Utes except for a small group of elders knew about. None of those coins were ever returned to circulation, and few have been seen since, except for a few found in Rough Canyon. Did the Old Ones cache those coins near Farm Creek, perhaps at Hell Hole? With each of those coins worth at least one-thousand dollars now, what would that cache be worth? I know that Alice One-Leg's white friend never recovered that cache, and the fisherman and his friend never even got close to it, so those gold coins are probably still there just as Alice One-Leg said, somewhere near Farm Creek. If you don't frighten easily, the best place to start your search might be at Hell Hole!--Faded Footprints, pg. 97

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Spanish Gold!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 28, 2009 05:10AM
The arid Sierra Estrella Mountain Range south of Phoenix can be a dangerous trek for even the most experienced hiker, as the jagged peaks provide no water along its few rarely used trails. However, what these mountains do offer, is a rich history and the promise of buried treasure.

According to legend, in 1847 a Spaniard named Don Joaquin led a mining expedition in these mountains, in the hopes of finding gold. When his dream was realized, he, like so many of his counterparts, enslaved the Indians to work the mine and bring out the precious metal. The mine, located on what was called the Zig Zag trail, remains shrouded in mystery.

One day, as Joaquin oversaw the mining operations, an Indian scout informed him that the American Army was headed in his direction. Without adequate reinforcements, Joaquin made the decision to temporarily cease the mining operations and return to Mexico. Loading 3,000 pounds of gold on to the backs of 15 mules, he and some of his men headed up Zig Zag trail towards Butterfly Peak. Continuing on towards Montezuma's Head, the group turned into a short box canyon about halfway down the trail.

Spying a cave, Don Joaquin had his men bury the gold in the back of the cavern, then killed the Indian scout, placing his body over the hidden treasure.

The remainder of his men had been instructed to await at a nearby butte and after having hidden the cache, Joaquin rejoined his fellow miners. However, greed can make even the most loyal of men resort to mutiny and that very night, Don Joaquin was murdered and his treasure map. Still at risk from the approaching American Army, the men headed back to Mexico the next morning, along with the guide to the buried treasure.

Nothing more was heard about the Spaniards for the next thirty-five years until one day an old man arrived in Phoenix with the original treasure map in his hands. Searching the peaks for the long lost gold, he was soon scared away by hostile Indians and the man returned to Mexico without the gold.

No one knows what happened to the man or the original map, but supposedly the buried treasure remains, to this day hidden somewhere in the Sierra Estrella Mountains

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