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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 28, 2009 02:19PM
Members of the Jonathan Swift mining party often passed through the Buckhannon river valley on the way to and from the silver mines in Kentucky. While establishing a temporary camp along what they thought was the Buckhannon river they were suddenly attacked by Indians and they quickly took the heavy packs of silver loaded the mules and fled up the Seneca trail eventually they found refuge near the headwaters of the stream in a cave, the men quickly buried the silver in one of the chambers of the cave. Swift many times referred to the rich silver mines in the Buckhannon valley so the silver could have been mined locally and recently two old mines was found as weather corrosion washed away the clumsy attempts to cover it up. o far no one has bothered to properly look at these mines, rich silver mines and I have no idea why no one stake a claim on them and start working! There could be millions down there!
As for the cave it should be in the mountain range where the river starts and the trail they used to escape heads from the valley in a north easterly direction up the old Seneca trail.......
Here is a map have fun and spend it wisely!
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Father LaRue Spanish treasure
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 30, 2009 02:46PM
He hid in the shaft 5,000 silver bars, 4,336 gold ingots, nine burro loads of jewels, and four priceless Aztec codices (books or manuscripts

Stationed at Chihuaha, New Mexico in 1797 during the last years of the Spanish occupation, was a priest named LaRue. Father LaRue, while sitting with an old dying soldier, listened while the soldier told him of a rich gold-bearing load in the mountains north of El Paso del Norte (El Paso, Texas today.)



The soldier explained to LaRue that the mother lode could be found by traveling one day north of El Paso until three small peaks could be seen. When the peaks came into view, the journey would turn east across the desert to the mountains. In the first mountain range, there would be a basin with a spring at the foot of a solitary peak. Upon this mountain was to be found a rich vein of gold.

Shortly after the soldier died, Chihuaha settlement was devastated by drought and famine. The Padre called the villagers together asking if they would follow him north to a better climate and more water. They agreed and the party migrated to the north. After crossing El Paso del Norte, they followed the course of the Rio Grande to the small village of La Mesilla near Las Cruces, New Mexico. North of there, they sighted the three peaks and turned east across the dreaded Jornada del Muerto desert, finally arriving in the San Andreas Mountains. After a couple of days of exploration, they located a basin in which there was a spring at the base of a solitary peak, just as the old man had said. Settling the new colony at Spirit Springs in Dona Ana County, Larue sent the men out to search for the gold. On one side of the peak, they located a rich vein in a deep canyon southwest of the springs. They tunneled into the mountain and followed the vein downward. The deeper they went, the richer the ore became. The priest assigned dozens of monks and Indians to mine the gold, form it into ingots and stack it along one wall of a natural cavern inside the mountain. For two years LaRue extracted the gold from the mountain, stockpiling it.

Word leaked into Mexico that LaRue had set up his own little empire and he was extracting large quantities of gold. The Spaniards wasted no time in rounding up an expedition to send north.

When a small group was in La Mesilla purchasing supplies they learned the Mexican Army was on the horizon. Hurrying to camp, they spread the alarm. It was one thing for Padre La Rue to leave his post without permission of church officials in Mexico City, but it was quite another not to deliver the Royal Fifth (or Quinta) of the gold for shipment to Spain.

Father La Rue immediately set about concealing all traces of the mine. Working day and night, knowing the soldiers were drawing ever closer, he had his little group labor to seal the entrance to the mine. When the soldiers finally arrived and demanded to know where the gold came from which was used to purchase the supplies in La Mesilla, Padre La Rue refused to answer. He died under torture, as did many of his followers. The soldiers searched the entire area, but finding no clues, they returned to Mexico empty-handed.

Although the historical facts suggest LaRue was in the Organ Mountains between present day Las Cruces and Alamogordo, his mining operation was deep in the San Andres Mountains north of Las Cruces. It was here, according to legend that the treasure was concealed.
And if I was living in the Ole US of A I would be the bearded mad man swinging my shovel at the mountain screaming "Soon you will be mine hahahheheheheahhahahehehe ) LOL



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Re: Father LaRue Spanish treasure
Posted by: Prospector Mike N.S.
Date: December 30, 2009 06:36PM
Silverman 777
Gee you got some great wealth of info there, to bad Im not living in any of those area's hihi.

Do you have any information of Gold and Silver treasure leads for Maritimes Canada ( except Oak Island ) . Especially for Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Or P.E.I.

I have all the Gold mining area's here in Nova Scotia and have searched many of the Old mines here, The King of England sent over E.R Faribault geoligist, and Fletcher and others to look for Gold in Nova Scotia to see where these occurances were in early 1900's , He, Faribault and Fletcher mapped 3/4 of the province where he found Gold occurances, also since many could not go to the Gold Rush in California and the Klondike stayed home and discovered Gold here. Some major mining was done in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Today there are only 1 or 2 Gold mines in operation. The Geology of Nova Scotia is different than anywhere else in N.A. it is compared to the same things they are finding in New Zealand. Parts of N.S. are actually made up of sections that seperated from Africa during the Ice Ages. That's why we have so many different minerals here, Gypsum,Gold,Silver,Copper,Coal are just a few to mention.

Any treasure leads would be greatful I know lot's of sunken ships that had treasures just off our shores.
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Prospector Mike
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Vikings in Nova Scotia
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 31, 2009 05:43AM
Nova Scotia
Paleo-Indians inhabited the island 11,000 years ago. The idea of the Vikings having lived there also has been debated.
The first European settlement in Nova Scotia was a French settlement in Acadia at Port Royal.
However, throughout the centuries, there have been many debates as to how many explorers and settlements actually existed before the French settlement at Acadia.
Those questions, like the questions about Oak Island having a lost treasure story, or should it be a buried treasure story, or a no treasure story is part of the drama behind the Oak Island mystery.
The Vikings
Some will argue that the Norseman crossed the Atlantic before Columbus. There are those that say that the Vikings reached North America by 1101 A.D. Excavations on Nova Scotia also found Viking ruins that dated in the 1500



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More Canadian gold leads
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 31, 2009 09:52AM
Northern British Columbia Leads.
In February of 1943, a Douglas C-49 took off from Fort Nelson, British Columbia on a flight to Fort Simpson. It reportedly carried eleven passengers and crew and an army payroll of $200,000 in United States currency and 400 pounds of gold bullion. On September 22, 1948, the wreckage was found near Fort Nelson high above Tuchodi Lake where it hit the mountainside with great force, disintegrated, scattered and burned for over a mile. Much of the debris was buried four to six feet under rockslides and although eleven bodies were recovered, there was no record of the missing cargo.
Vancouver Island Treasure Leads.
Several cedar boxes, each containing $10,000 in gold were secreted in several various caches in the 1920s by Arthur Wilson a self-proclaimed messiah on DeCourcy Island. When the police caught up with him he fled to Europe, not having time to gather all of his hidden deposits. Much of his treasure remains to be found. A wide variety of relics and little treasures can be unearthed at Cumberland's Chinatown, the lost ghost town located on Vancouver Island, 140 miles north of Victoria. 3,000 oriental miners once lived in this bustling coal mining community four miles from Royston and much treasure remains to be found here. 1,200 cases of liquor packed in salmon cases remain hidden near Long Beach on Vancouver Island's lonely west coast. Somewhere near the headwaters of the San Juan River on Vancouver Island is an immensely rich ledge of almost pure gold. It was discovered -- and lost -- in the 1880s. A lost Spanish mine containing raw gold and crude ingots of pure gold is located in the area between Leech town and Jordan Meadows at the foot of the huge rock bluffs. The site is somewhere along a shorter route than the regular trail on ground that isn't very steep; the opening almost horizontal. It's among heavy undergrowth and a substantial distance from Leech town. It is also said to be in the high country overlooking Jordan Meadows. $10,000 in gold coins in a knee-high leather boot, covered by an inverted frying pan under eighteen inches of soil was buried 150 yards or feet, or 25 yards or feet northwest from the northwest corner of the largest house in Leech town .
In 1872 "Rattlesnake" thingy Barters' gang held up a mule train and escaped with $80,000, half of which has never been found. It is supposedly buried along the salal-covered ruins of the old Leechtown Gold Camp 20 miles northwest of Victoria. . Many treasure ships have gone down at Race Rocks near Victoria. Some gold coins have been found in this area. . Within an hours' drive of Victoria along the rocky banks of South Vancouver Island's Koksilah River is the location of Bill Irvine's silver mine, discovered and lost around 1908. . The ancient Chilcotin Indians obtained melted gold by heating some kind of rock which was found in a valley in the area of Bella Coola. At the confluence of the Thompson and Fraser Rivers, three railroad cars derailed and plunged into the river canyon. The cargo aboard supposedly contained gold bullion and was heavily insured, but in order to present a claim, the railroad must give the insurance company the plates bearing the serial numbers of the lost cars. The railroad will give a reward of $1,000,000 for the recovered plates.
Southern British Columbia Prospecting and Treasure leads.
The Lost Lytton Gold Mine lies somewhere in the mountains at an altitude of over 8,000 feet across the Fraser River from Lytton.The Lost Creek Gold Mine, said to be worth $100,000,000, is located 45 miles from New Westminster in the Pitt River country on the edge of the Garibaldi Provincial Park. This mine is also called the Lost Mine of Pitt Lake. "Bluebeard" Slumach supposedly had a secret gold source somewhere in the area a few miles from New Westminster during the late 1880s
The mother-lode source of the fabulous Granite Creek gold deposits has never been found and is believed to lie, undiscovered, somewhere back in the hills, about 12 miles west of Princeton. The Lost Edmunds Quartz Deposit, with 101 ounces of silver to the ton and 41 ounces of gold, lies somewhere on Penticton Creek near Okanagan. As much as $4,000,000 in unrecovered gold is believed to remain in the bottom of a water-filled pit in the Caribou District, about one-quarter mile past the Barkerville intersection on the Quesnel-Bowron Lake Road and near the confluence of the Willow River and Williams Creek. The "lake" is fed by underground springs and remains constantly filled with 80 to 100 feet of water.Three bars of gold worth $100,000 at today's prices, the results of a robbery in 1896 by Matt Roderick, lie buried in the area about one hours' buckboard ride out of Camp McKinney and roughly 150 miles north of the Wenatches Wash in the Caribou Mining District. He was later killed when returning; it is surmised, to recover the hidden treasure. They have never been found.

Gold is said to be found on Glacier creek near Stave Lake as well as in Tingle Creek. Gold has also been discovered on the North Allouette River. The Famous BC prospector Volcanic Brown said there was Platinum in the Pitt Lake lost mine area. Platinum claims can be found on Tuwasus creek.
There is a old mine on the top of Mt Crickmer. Some gold has been found using a detector and searching the old mining dumps. Just off the main trail to the top of this mountain an old dump was found which contained all kinds of artifacts. Resting in the mountains south of Hope is an old mining town called Steamboat Mountain. Many mining relics can be found here.
There was said to be an old Spanish mine east of Harrison Lake. The Local natives said they saw ships with great white wings in the Harrison area long before official contact was recorded. Many believe the Spanish where there in search of gold. An old Spanish wreck can be found in Bute Inlet on the British Columbia Coast.
Caches of gold made by the old Indian Hunter Jack are said to be found near the Bridge River area behind the Bralorne Mine. A lost valley near Taughton Creek north of the Bridge River is also supposed to contain the mother lode of Hunter Jack and a sacred Indian burial ground. Several Caches where made by a prospector who was stealing from the old Pioneer mine in the Bridge River country.
The location is somewhere around gold bridge. Eldorado creek in the Bridge river is very rich for the prospector who can make the journey. Gold was found there this summer
In 1889 the outlaw Jack Rowland robbed a stagecoach, but was eventually captured and sent to prison. Rumours have persisted that the $15,000 in stolen gold bars have never been recovered and lies cached somewhere along Scott or Scottie Creek in the area of his cabin near Clinton and 20 miles north of Ashcroft. A robber stole $300,000 in gold dust and nuggets from a Caribou miner after which he was shot. The bandit fell off his horse wounded and was dragged along with the saddlebags into the dense brush. His skeleton and the pouches of gold may be in the area between Cache Creek and Ashcroft near 150 Mile House. A cave of gold exists somewhere along the 700-mile shoreline of Shuswap Lake. Indian legends tell of a cave many miles in length hiding a "blind river" which was worked by native miners in bygone ages. Today the cavern is said to be hidden by river silt and debris. Old timers in the area believe the fabulously rich Lost Lemon Diggings lie in the vicinity of Finlay Creek near Canal Flats.
In the late 1800s Bill Irvine, an employee of the E & N Railway working to construct the right-of-way above the Koksilah River, stumbled upon an abandoned mine shaft containing walls of almost solid silver ore. The mine was lost and after years of change in the terrain, could not be relocated. Placer Gold can be found in the Ashnola River where the river meets with the Similkameen River. Placer gold and placer platinum have been found in Eagle Creek since 1885, 8 miles SW of Old Tulameen.Good quantities of placer gold and placer platinum have been found in Granite Creek since 1885 in the Similkameen region.Placer gold can be found in Lawless Creek, (Bear Creek). Placer gold and placer platinum can be found in Lockie Creek (also known as Boulder Creek). The Tulameen River has been worked since 1860, and still yields gold and platinum.
Lambly (Bear) Creek, Cherry Creek, and Harris Creek yield placer gold in the Okanagan Lake region. Many good sized gold nuggets have been found in Jolly Creek. Although Boundary Creek has been prospected since 1859 with rockers, sluices, and hydraulics, there are still some places in which gold can be easily recovered. Rock Creek is a renowned placer gold creek, yielding gold since 1959.



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"Lost" mine of Stave lake??
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: December 31, 2009 09:59AM
How lost can it be if someone got these? Now the "mining rights are for sale for 500 000 Canadian $... mmm sounds like a con. If you find a lost mine surely you are going to mine it! Well was good for a laugh!
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North Carolina
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 02, 2010 09:50AM
The most fascinating account is that of Abraham, whose life spans the colonial, revolutionary, and frontier eras of the United States. Even more intriguing are the mystery of a pot of buried gold and tales of Abraham's ghost still said to haunt a creek called Pheasant Branch near Flat Rock, North Carolina. Born in Deerpark and baptized on October 18, 1719, Abraham moved to the Minisink area with his parents, then south into Pennsylvania, then down into western North Carolina through the famous Cumberland Gap. He married his first wife, Elizabeth, about 1743 and fathered eleven children between 1755 and 1792.

Abraham's story begins with the Revolutionary War, during which he mostly served in civil rather than military roles. Listed as a member of the North Carolina Militia in 1770, he was also a member of the Safety Committee for Tryon County, North Carolina, from July 26, 1775. Historical records of Tryon County list Abraham as Captain Kuykendall on and after July 1776. Very little of the war was fought in North Carolina and records suggest Abraham served in procuring supplies in North Carolina and sending them to Washington's army farther north. Shortly after the war began, he was also appointed Commissioner of Tryon County, responsible for building a courthouse, prison, and stocks, and for establishing a boundary line between Tryon and Mecklenburg Counties. He also became Justice of the Peace of Tryon County in December of 1778, and continued in these roles when Rutherford County was formed during or after the Revolutionary War. These appointments show Abraham to be a man held in high regard by his fellow citizens.

He stayed in this area east of what is now Asheville until about 1800 when, for unknown reasons, he moved further west to sparsely populated Henderson County, closer to Asheville. By this time he was over eighty and having lost his first wife Elizabeth, he had quickly remarried a young, attractive woman named Bathseba. As a veteran of the Revolutionary War, he was given a grant of land of six hundred acres by the State of North Carolina in an area that was primarily virgin timber. In time, he came to own over one thousand acres, including all of the Flat Rock community. There he established a tavern to accommodate travelers along the Old State Road used by people driving herds of cattle, horses, and mules from Kentucky and Tennessee to the markets in lower South Carolina and Georgia. It was a busy road because it was one of the few that linked the mountain areas of western North Carolina and eastern Tennessee to towns further east.

Abraham built the tavern and holding pens for livestock; we are told the inn was unusually large and its accommodations better than the average pioneer inn offered in those days. Family tradition also makes much of his beautiful young wife Bathseba who bore him four sons and helped entertain travelers. He had a reputation for serving good food and drinks of strong, raw whiskey made at his own still. The tavern was established sometime between 1800 and 1804, and its reputation for good lodgings made Abraham a rich man. He insisted travelers pay in gold or silver coins and only accepted gold when selling parts of his huge tract of land. Soon the old soldier-pioneer innkeeper had accumulated quite a fortune and began to fear for its safety. There were no banks in this remote area or anywhere in the state of North Carolina, so valuables were kept in strong boxes, large trunks made of thick white oak, held together with strips of iron and locked with large padlocks. These precautions did not satisfy the aging Abraham, especially since his young wife had a habit of spending her husband's treasure on frivolous goods brought in by pack peddlers. Family tradition maintains that Bathseba liked to dress in bright colors and wear lots of rings, bracelets, necklaces, and earrings. The peddlers served as traveling department stores, bringing all kinds of goods to frontier women in isolated areas, and they must have realized what a good customer Abraham's young wife was, with all her husband's wealth at her disposal.

One dark night, old Abraham secretly transferred his gold and silver coins from his strong box to a large iron wash pot, an item common to pioneer households. He then awoke two of his slaves who were very strong and young. He blindfolded them and ordered them to carry the pot down the road and into the forest with only a pine knot torch lighting the way. He guided them through the dense forest where he removed their blindfolds and told them to dig a hole under a bent white oak tree near a clear sparkling branch. When it was deep enough to satisfy him, Abraham had the two slaves bury the pot, covering the spot with leaves and brush to hide it. Again he blindfolded the young men and led them back to the inn. On pain of death he warned them never to tell a soul a single word of what they had done for him that night.

Some time after, when Abraham was 104 years old, he set out alone to get some of his treasure for a business deal. Taking a shovel, he left the inn, never again to be seen alive. When he failed to return, a search begun and he was found dead, lying face down in a mountain stream that flowed through the forest. Those who found him concluded that he had stumbled or tripped while trying to cross the branch, probably hitting his head. Either badly dazed or unconscious, he had rolled into the stream and drowned. Only then did it become common knowledge that Abraham had buried his wealth in a large iron pot. The two frightened slaves told the family what they could of that strange night, but all they could tell was that the money was beneath a large white oak near a mountain stream. Thus began frantic searches along the banks of Pheasant Branch where Abraham was found, and some still search today.

Soon after the old man's death, stories began to be told at campfires and hearths around Flat Rock. People traveling at night during the full moon told of seeing the figure of a bent old man frantically digging first in one place and then another. Those brave enough to go after the phantom recalled how it disappeared before their very eyes. Stories persisted and grew. One terrified traveler on horseback told of crossing Pheasant Branch just as he heard the rattling of a wagon just ahead and then saw a solitary figure of an old man in a one horse wagon, beside which sat a large black wash pot. As the traveler drew along side, the wagon, horse, man and wash pot suddenly vanished.

Soon only the most foolhardy traveled after dark near the vicinity of Pheasant Branch, and family traditions kept the story of the gold and the ghost alive. Many have searched in vain for the treasure, including descendants of the two slaves Abraham blindfolded and led through the woods to bury the pot, but none of it has ever been found
Of all the treasure stories out there this is one of the real ones
Have a good Hunt!
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North Virginia Treasures!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 03, 2010 01:50PM
Deep within the ancient lands of the Jamestown, Williamsburg, Yorktown triangle, rests a treasure of historic proportions.
Hidden somewhere near or by the ancient landmarks of our colonial forefathers, lies a trove of buried treasure. Golden treasure.

Resting within a bolted wooden chest are 400 solid gold coins with a value in the tens of thousands of dollars.

Whoever cracks the mystery of the Jamestown 400 becomes the sole owner of the treasure trove.

But to crack the code and find the 400 gold coins, you must take a journey through history that will reveal America's greatest national treasure



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Re: North Virginia Treasures!
Posted by: T2
Date: January 03, 2010 07:36PM
Man! These places are a hour awsy from me! Would be hard to get into but would be a nice adventure!

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Robbers Hidden Loot TEXAS!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 06, 2010 03:06PM
NEDERLAND



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Re: Places to go hunt for coins and gold
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 10, 2010 10:54AM
In the 1850



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Now for a true Treasure Tale
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 13, 2010 01:30PM
It's a true story, and the research into this fact not fiction. Let's begin on April 15, 1934 in Cuernavaca, Mexico. The subject was a venture meeting called by investment banker Rafael Borega. In attendance were Leon Trabuco: Rancher and large scale miner from Chihualhua, Mexico, Ricardo Artega: Wealthy rancher from Torreon, Mexico, Carlos Sepulvedo: Wealthy rancher from Coahuila, Mexico, Professor Guzman Morada: Economical specialist called in by investment bankers from Spain, and Rafael Borega: International banker for Spain and Mexico.

Morada had a plan: "Gentlemen, on April 5th 1933 President Roosevelt of the United States issued an executive order forbidding the hoarding of gold by United States citizens. He further proposed to congress that a United States Gold Act be formulated and passed. The Committees went to work on the wording of the Act, and had the Act prepared by late 1933, passed on January 13, of this year and signed into law. my friends, I forecast that the United States dollar will de-value and that gold and other metals will gain in price. In 1929 the stock market crashed and that lost investors $60 million dollars and from 1929 to 1933, 4,376 United States banks have collapsed." Professor Morada predicted that with gold now selling on the western world market at $20.67 per ounce, that gold prices would go up soon after the gold act from $30.00 to $40.00 per troy ounce. He predicted that a wise group could reap millions in profits by accumulating the bullion at the present price and holding it in the United States for the anticipated increase in value. Only two among the group inquired as to the problems that might arise on crossing the international borders with the gold. Morada assured all that no problems would come up at the border. A plan was adopted by the group. Trabucl, being the wealthiest and with mining operation knowledge, would lead the group. Trabuco would supply much of the gold that he was personally hoarding estimated at 12 tons or 300,000 troy ounces. This would be combined with some of Ricardo Artega's gold. The two wealthy ranchers, Ricardo Artega and Carlos Sepulvedo, supplied millions of pesos in Dollar form to Rafael Borega so that he could purchase more gold from miners. Borega canvassed the mining communities and amassed five tons of gold, and estimated $3,500,000.00 worth.

The gold was stored at a rented rancho near Pueblo, Mexico. Trabuco supplied trusted guards at Puebla, and when the tonage was accumulated and ready to be moved, the gold, in ingot form, was moved north to Trabuco's mine in northern Chihuahua, Mexico. All summer long and into the winter 17 tons was accumulated. In December Trabuco was elated to locate a United Sates safe property to move the gold to. Trabuco talked to a pilot, William C. Elliot, and wanted him to fly in search of a suitable stash area. Elliot ran a charter service and was more than happy to fly to Kirtland, New Mexico to discuss the project. Trabuco and Elliot met in Kirtland and struck a deal where they would fly and locate a good area and Elliot would receive $2,500.00 per flight to move the gold from Mexico to a site in New Mexico. Trabuco wanted Elliot to locate and lease a secluded mesa top, out of the view of civilization. The Mexican partners approved the deal with the exception that Trabuco would never allow anyone, including Elliot, to know what the gold was buried once it had been flown in.

From Torreon to the United States Border is about 400 air miles. Then an additional 400 miles to the Four Corners area. Approximately 400 total air miles with the flights being planned as night runs.

Note:: Kirtland is half way between Shiprock City (not the rock) and Farmington, New Mexico. It is stated that Elliots plane could fly 1500 pounds with a safety factor. Elliot would need to make at least 23 trips from Mexico to the mesa. It is presumed that the trips were completed by mid January to the end of February 1934.

Trabuco had two trusted and well armed guards stay with the gold and cover it with tarps. Trabuco then released Elliot with his $57,500.00 Flight pay. Trabuco had traveled to Bloomfield, New Mexico to acquire tools for digging and he had his one-ton truck from his mining operations in Mexico. When everything seemed clear, Trabuco had his guards load the gold, one ton at a time, and alone he moved it to a hole that he had dug himself. After the entire 17 tons were laid in the hole, he covered it up with dirt, tarps and waxed paper, returned to pick up his guards and returned to Mexico.

On January 17, 1934 the president signed and passed the United States Gold Act. There was an immediate order for banks, storage houses and metal brokers to turn in their gold for paper dollars at an exchange rate of $35.00 per ounce. As some had predicted, the dollar devaluation did occur, and gold did raise to $35.00 per ounce. However tied to the Act, was the fact that all citizens of the United States must have all their gold traded in within five years.

Note: 34,000 pounds of gold would not require a very great area to store. Plus or minus close to 27 cubic feet. One cubic yard equals 440,000 troy ounces.

Trabuco's gold was worth $20.67 per ounce in 1933. Borega had purchased tons of gold at $25.00 per ounce and the cost of moving the gold by plane had already peen paid. At $35.00 per ounce, there would have been approximately six and three quarters of a million dollars profit if the gold had been moved in 1934, but greed ruled the group and they wanted more.

By 1939 the United States had held the gold price at $35.00 per ounce. Borega had died in him Mexico office in 1939 leaving three members of the group still alive. In 1940 Carlos Sepulvedo was killed in a car crash just outside of Monterry, Mexico. Now Trabuco was the only survivor. On December 7th 1941 the United States had declared war and in 1942 William C. Elliot enlisted in the United States Army Air Corps and was killed in action in 1944 while flying over Germany. After World War ll, Trabuco tried to sell the gold to private buyers, but all sales fell through because the buyers were leery of the old Gold Act and did not wish to enter into any illegal or gray area with the United States Government. Trabuco tried a sale with a German immigrant, but when the German learned that the gold was stored in the United States, he backed out of the deal.

It was suspected that one of the possible United States buyers leaked information to the Treasury Department about the hidden gold and in late 1945 an investigation was opened. In 1946 Trabuco hired an attorney to represent him with the Treasury Department.

President Truman himself was consulted and the Treasury Department called in the Justice Department. A determination was made that the Mexicans had direct knowledge of the Gold Act and chose to violate this U.S. Law. Trabuco could come forward and divulge the hiding place of the gold, allows the United States Government to recover it and then sue for rightful ownership and take his chances with the Federal court system. Trabuco turned down this offer and did not travel within the United States boundaries.

In 1952 a second attempt by a lawyer was made to the Treasury Department. The Justice Department then turned the case over to the Federal Grand Jury, Los Angeles, California District. The Federal Grand Jury issued an indictment, naming Trabuco as violating both United States smuggling laws and cited other open laws that may be named at a later date. It is alleged that Trabuco did maintain some guards near his leased treasure site on the mesa. Most searchers have concentrated their search on an old Spanish Land Grant Property southwest of the landmark (Shiprock, New Mexico). This theory is based on the fact that other properties surrounding the area are part of the sovereign Navajo Indian reservation and in 1933 the land available to the group had to be semi-private property. During the post world war ll era, the land grant became part of the vast Navajo Nation. This is speculation at best and some other area in the 1933-45 eras were so remote that there could be several candidate sites.

In 1958 Trabuco sold his mines and ranch properties in Chihuahua, Mexico and departed to Europe. IN 1962 Trabuco visited Mexico City and made some calls to his lawyer in Los Angeles, California. Trabuco returned to Spain that year with no action having been taken in the United States. In 1974 there were some inquiries by the Trabuco Los Angeles law firm to the United States Treasury and Justice Departments. The outcome of these inquires was not revealed but no one has seen Trabuco since that time. The law firm must have made some kind of deal because the hired agencies to locate Trabuco in Europe with no results.
Trabuco was thought to be around 45 years of age in 1933 which would make him 74 when he visited Mexico in 1962. When the search began in 1974 he would have been 86 years old.

The truck Trabuco had in New Mexico could haul one ton easily. This would mean that 17 trips were made in one day with five miles to his secret site and five miles back to the guarded tarped site. 170 miles in one day with handling and burying, could all fit into one long day time frame. No map was made and the only statement that anyone can remember Trabuco saying was "The gold is only a few miles from a major New Mexico land mark."

Other dates can be located in the book, "Missing Four Corners Area-----17 Tons of Gold." by Adaven Rivlas. Also a video of Fosters Hunt and one Treasure Magazine article. Earlier in this story I mention that one of the private United States buyers may have leaked the information to the Fed's and from later documents we find the names and the players.
1950: A prominent Los Angeles cattleman named E. George Lucky reported to the United States Secret Service that he had been asked to serve as an intermediary in arranging a large-scale bullion sale. 35,000 pounds of gold at $35.00 an ounce making this a $20,000,000.00 deal. Mr. Lucky stated that the deal had been brought to him by a man named Bruce Clews, a Los Angeles public relations man. An attorney named Prentiss Moore sat in on the meeting. Clews stated that the deal had been brought to him by a metal imports dealer named Isadore M. Nobel and an international mining consultant named Martin Hougan. Hougan, the mining consultant, had power of attorney to represent the foreign seller. The sale of the gold was to be handled through as escrow system located at the First National Bank of Ontario, California. B.J. Klepper was the escrow office of this bank. The attorney, Prentiss Moore advised the group to tell the story to the Secret Service and to get advice from both the Treasury Department and the Justice Department prior to violating any United States Laws. This advice was taken and the Secret Service handed the file to the Federal Justice Department in Los Angeles. The Prosecuting Attorneys took the entire file to the Federal Grand Jury in order to seek indictments. All known participants were brought before the Grant Jury. This included the escrow files and an affidavit from Martin Hougan, the mining consultant, that he had seen the gold with his own eyes and could guarantee that the gold did exist. Hougan did not appear at the hearings and when a warrant was issued in his name, he avoided being served by seeking foreign employment. Mr. Hougan never did surface and his whereabouts are unknown.
Angus D. McEachen, the United States Prosecuting Attorney, entered the file in the Federal court system in 1952 and again in 1960 so that the stature of limitations would not run out. The United States Government renewed the claim in 1974.
The Hougan affidavit stated that the gold was buried somewhere in the far extreme northwest corner of the state of New Mexico in San Juan County.

Shiprock has been the center of several searches for this horde. Both legally permitted Navajo searches and trespassers on reservation lands. As recent as 1990 an air infrared search was done by a California company in the Shiprock area. They covered a 20-mile circle around the rock. A potential landing field east of the rock was found and could easily be reached by truck to haul the bullion away to it's hiding place.

The filming was done with 35MM color and infrared black and white film. The films have been studied and determined that the filming and the developing was not up to the state of the art that was available. It is also noted that the alleged landing site was in an open plain where passers by could see the field for miles. The truck carrying the gold would have to cross over the highway which was between the supposed landing site and Shiprock. The facts and the stores do not go together. Another researcher from Farmington, New Mexico states that there was an old Spanish/Mexican Land Grant 20 miles south of Shiprock and he suspects that this area is now part of the Navajo Indian Reservation and could have been available to Trabuco in 1933. This area was also filmed by the California company and nothing was found by infrared filming. However, once again, the filming and developing was below par.

Ed Foster, a long time researcher for his treasure, found some interesting evidence six miles east of Aztec, New Mexico. He stated that there were some major Landmarks north of this area listed on several old Mexican maps. These landmarks were "Way-Points". He also found a rock, which has the inscription 1033/16 tons. When Mr. Fosters story is pieced together, it seems to further confuse the story. He alleges that the plane landed at Conger Mesa, which is in the center of the village of Old la Plata, New Mexico. He states that he interviewed an old Indian woman who saw a plane land on Conger Mesa near 1933. Fosters complete story covers an area of thirty miles when all of his research is placed together.
Friends of mine, field surveyed the area and can supply some data which makes Conger Mesa an unlikely landing spot. The shed that Trabuco supposedly used as a guard shack and to hold the gold for transport is far from the Conger Mesa Strip. We also interviewed some old farmers, Indians and miners that stated that during the 1920's and 1930's La Plata was a major smelting district for several active mines which operated north of La Plata and into Colorado. Several mines would bring their ore to these lower elevation smelters for final refining. Most of the ore was then sold to eastern buyers or shipped by road to Denver, Colorado. IT was not uncommon for officials to fly onto these rough landing strips in those days. This may be the reason that some planes were seen flying into the area.

In late 1994 I hoped that the snow was gone and took my chances on a quick glance of the area. Finding snow on all of the north slopes and some on the west slopes, I had my friend shoot color from the air and use the data that I had accumulated so far to isolate the most likely areas and proceed with a ground search to look for identifiable artifacts. Four candidate mesa's that could be seen from the roads were isolated. These mesas could be used as landing sites. Two spots were found that showed signs of disturbances of some type of land grading to smooth an area. This appeared to be done with some kind of drag and most probably mules were used to pull a grader. The east or back slope of one mesa showed that an old trail came up onto the mesa. Most of the trail was just wide enough for a man or possibly an animal. A very small track shows that there was some traffic the width of an automobile. We presume that the vehicle was pulled up onto the mesa by animals and could be used for more extensive areas on the surrounding mesa top.

The area of interest was isolated in the 1930's. It was considered by the Indians to be part of the old people's cave dwelling grounds prior to it's being established as the Navajo Indian reservation. All of this area was what the Indians called "Ancestors Grounds". The old people built adobes on protective ledges and caves, mostly on the south facing slopes of the high mesa. They did this for protection from the weather and hostile nomadic non working tribes who often took the hard eared stores from the working Indians. These cave dwellings were often built away from watering holes and required that potable water be hauled up to their homes. Other food items were also hauled up to their adobe homes for grinding and storage. The protected dwellings were most likely used only occasionally in the good weather months while small clans grew their crops and hunted for game that could be dried for winter use. By the winter months, the clans moved into their winter dwellings with pre-stored foods and water.

This story has been put together using all of the above-mentioned data. In June of 1933, Trabuco traveled north by truck and made a decision on what mesa was out of sight of roads, and settlements. The mesa needed to be in an unclaimed area with no mines, ranching, and no interest by the smaller Navajo Nation. Trabuco rented mules from a farmer in the old La Plata area and entered the mesa from the east and graded a landing strip. He later brought three horses for his men to use to get on and off the mesa with camp supplies. He used the mules to grade the landing site and made a camp by using flat stones from several of the old Indian rock Hogans that were on the mesa. (Associates have located these Hogans that were probably used to make a pantry under the cliff side where they could seal out rodents and keep their food stores safe.)

There were six stripped hogans where only the foundations remained near the pantry. One Hogan was located near the makeshift landing strip and had a two foot base where the bullion could have been kept with a tarp over it until it was moved to it's hiding place. I don't think that Trabuco originally planned on burying the gold because a fast sale was the original plan. The gold was all flown in by February 1934 and he and his guards could ride to town and take turns guarding the horde. Sometime in early 1934 Trabuco learned that the gold had indeed jumped to $35.00 per ounce but as the leader of the group, he decided to wait to see if the price would jump even more and that is when he decided to bury the gold. This is when he traveled to Bloomfield to purchase hard ground digging tools (factual). In February 1934 Trabuco had his guards help him tow his truck to the mesa and then sent the guards to twon. He took his time and loaded one or two tons at a time and moved the gold to his pre-dug hiding place.

When the gold was all buried, he could easily drive the truck down the east side to Kirkland and pick up his men and deliver them back to Mexico to await the possible rise in the gold market.

By late 1934 his partners were disturbed because their time and money were tied up. The United States Gold Act laws were just beginning to be defined and the project started to look bleak for hoarders of gold. By 1935 the partnership wanted guards posted at the mesa to further insure the safety of the gold. Trabuco took new help to an out post area near the gold site.
Trabuco hauled building blocks onto the mesa and had the team construct a year around type adobe to keep trespassers away from the area. This house is next to the original pantry that the Indians had built. A small herd of sheep was brought in to make the homestead look more like a working ranch. An attempt to sell some gold to private buyers in Denver was made in 1941 but the illegal sale scared the buyers away. Soon after the war broke out, the partners tried to sell some of the gold to the treasury department at a low rate but Roosevelt



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1610 town found!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 15, 2010 02:11PM
While reading through Ancient documents for another research project I came across an old town 25 miles southeast of Albuquerque in this location if you zoom in you can see the old ground disturbance where the 1610 town used to be! Metal detecting here is bound to bring gold coins and maybe if you are lucky religious artefact's!
Grrrr wish I was there I would be on this site like a rash!
Have a good hunt
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Found this today!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 17, 2010 09:15AM
Butte City

All that remains of the once thriving 1850's mining town of Butte City is the ruins of the Ginocchio Store. At one time, a thousand miner's cabins occupied the fields around the store. There is a graveyard on the hill,
Now read again 1000 miners cabins stood around the store, many graves many dead miners, many small hidden gold stashes and many old coins and artifacts a metal detectors dream world! Whomever hunts this ground remember with every step I am green with jealousy!!
The ruins are located on CA-49 two kilometers south of Jackson.
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Another real mine FIND IT!
Posted by: Silverman777
Date: January 19, 2010 12:38PM
James B Woolsey was a sheepherder all his life and had a prospector friend who was a dentist in Salt Lake City, Utah. The dentist had him bring samples to him from various areas where he herded sheep. If they looked good the dentist had them assayed. The dentist promised Jim if he ever found anything good he would stake it and give him a percentage.



One particular year Jim took his herd of sheep above Current Creek just east of Low Pass on the summit.



He also made camp on the summit just east of Low Pass. Several days later he rode his horse down over the hill, north and east of camp. He hadn't been gone long when he spotted a mine tunnel. He got down from his horse and looked at the tunnel. At the entrance the props were sticking out of the ground. It looked as though the hillside had slid or the mine had caved in. Around the props the rock in which the tunnel had been driven was exposed. It was dark reddish brown in color and in the rock was a gold colored metal which he thought might be iron. He chipped some samples from around the tunnel to take to the dentist. During the time Jim was on the mountain he rode by the old mine several times. That fall when he returned to Salt Lake City Jim took the samples to the dentist's office only to find out he was out of town. He left the samples at the dentist's office anyway. Within a couple of days Jim got a job offer in New Mexico and left Utah for a time.



When he returned the next year to visit the dentist he learned that he was in a mental institution.



Jim found out the dentist had had the rock assayed and that it ran $57,000.00/ton. He also discovered the dentist had spent most of the winter and spring hunting for Jim until his nervous collapse. Jim did not know whether or not the ore he had brought him was the cause of his condition, but with that in mind he never went back to the old mine.



Jim gave directions to find the mine and said one should have no trouble finding it. Here are the instructions:



Go up Current Creek. Near the head is a road that takes off to the right. Follow that road up the mountain and over the top. Go east through Low Pass and continue going east along the summit. East of Low Pass you can find the camp where Jim stayed. You will know it is the place because all the trees have Woolsey carved in them. Just south and down the hill is where you can find some old dipping vats that were used to dip the sheep in. After finding Jim's camp go a little northeast from there, down over the hill somewhere around 1/4 mile. The tunnel is in the timber and from the tunnel you can see the west fork of the Duchesne River. Another clue which may help is to find the Bobby Duke Trail. Jim said the tunnel is visible from that trail if you look very close.

Sigh if I had the money.... I'd be there......
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