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This is my first post to a metal detector forum of any type although I have been reading them for years. My first detector was a Groundhog I bought in 1978. In 1986 I bought an ADS7 which to this day in my opinion was a great machine. I sold it in 1993 and bought a CZ5. This machine I still have and will keep for good. Somewhere in the late 90's I bought a XLT. I kept it for a couple of years. It was a good machine but I chose to always grab the CZ5 and sold the XLT. I sort of put metal detecting on the back burner for a few years raising a family etc.. With my kids gone off to college I started to read forums and field tests looking for a new detector last year. I was pretty much set on the F75 or F70 until the AT Pro came out. I bought this a year ago. It has been a very good machine. I kept track of finds through the years and noticed that my silver finds were not as good as before the AT Pro. Don't get me wrong the AT Pro is a very good machine. It is a killer nickel machine. Last year I found about 3 Indian head pennies and 2 buffalo nickels to every silver dime. It used to be the other way around with dimes being the highest. Maybe the dimes just aren't there. I know the AT Pro runs at a higher frequency than my previous machines. I have studied the forums and field tests again and will add another machine this year. It will be the F75. T2 or the Omega 8000. I live in a small midwestern town of 1000 people. It is 10 miles to the next town. I search lawns of old churches, house lawns, lawns of old country schools and farm ground that is plowed where old churches, picnic grounds and school once stood. I also search old abandoned farmsteads that are very overgrown with years of brome grass. I understand the Omega is probably the best overall coin machine but is probably not as good on the deeper items in the plowed fields. An Omega with 3 coils is about the same price as a T2 Special with 2 coils. The F75 is about $200 higher than the others. Is the T2 and the F75 the same machine. Ground mineralization in my area runs between 78 and 82. As I am getting older I have noticed the AT Pro is easier to swing for a longer period of time than my CZ5 because of the weight. The Omega is about a half pound lighter than the others but should not make too much of a difference. I am sure there are several different opinions on this subject. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

I am almost afraid to answer this post. Definitely going to be some opinions. So, feeling somewhat cowardly this evening I will wait a few posts before I offer my 2 cents.

Rick, what area of country (assuming USA) do you detect in? Mineralization levels are imprtant in regards to your question.

I live in southeast South Dakota. My AT Pro registers mineralization at 78-82.

I'll get the party started...This is my fourth season with the same T2. I have no experience with the F75 or Omega but both appear to be fine detectors. The T2 is a top notch coin machine even though it is reputed to be a relic machine. Depth is exceptional, today I pulled a 57 Rosie at 7 inches. The handle makes it very ergonomic and can be swung for hours with no fatigue. I look at other detectors thinking I'll upgrade but then I ask myself what detector is better than the T2 I have. That's not saying the F75 or Omega are not fine machines but I know what my T2 is telling me with each beep. There are some features that the T2 doesn't have like selective notch and back light display that the others have. I probably wouldn't use either if it had them. I don't hunt at night and want to hear all the beeps.

Everyone will have their own opinion and we have some very fine detectorist with their respective machines that I'm sure will pipe in with their experience.

Pops

He has had both and has learned them both well! Holler if you need help or a gret deal! Love to help you! Thanks, Bart.

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Rick------Perhaps Jim-tn & Elton will "chime in" here on your question.-----Between those two guys, they have a "ton" of experience on those three detectors you inquired about.------Jim---Elton----where y'all at? --------------Del

I have, or have used all three, and all three are wonderful detectors. I haven't hunted So Dakota, but do hunt up in Mn and the ground balance numbers are just about the same. And all three of the detectors you have mentioned have worked well for me up in Mn. In seeing the type of hunting you do and the type of spots, I am going to recommend the F 75 SE/LTD. For fields and woods hunting with their boost modes this detector really excels. Not only is it a bit deeper then the regular F 75, but for field and woods hunting where one often must swing the coil over stubble, tall grass and short brush, the LTD/ SE still gets great depth with the coil several inches above the actual ground. I've dug coin and bullet size targets 6-8" deep when having to swing the coil 4 or 5 inches above the ground. If price is a factor, I have seen some very clean and nicely priced used ones on the forums and many of the dealers on this forum get used ones in trade. Anyway, my 2 cents worth and good luck with your decision. HH jim tn

I too read all the posts on the T2 and Omega8000 and I chose the O8 as it does have notch capability is a bit lighter yet and uses only one 9v battery. With the 3 coil setup it's killer and I mainly coin hunt your useage may vary and that will have some bearing on your ultimate decision at the end.

Several of the articles I have read state that the O8 id's better isn't as noisychattery so it's easier to understand at high sensitivity cranked right up there and with the 11"dd coil gets close to the same depth capability as the T2 but id's coins better at depth. The 5"dd coil is deep for it's size and everyone loves it in trash, it's fantastic and with the O8's target id and notching and it's 7.8khz which is more for coinage (the T2 is 13khz) it can really cherry pick out the good targets in the trash.
The stock 10" eliptical coil that comes with the O8 everyone likes cause it's better able to distinguish bottle caps over coins so you can id them better and not waste time digging them.

Because of this and more I also bought a G2 to compliment the O8. The G2 is a super extremely fast resetting machine as the G2 is a dual processor machine and at 19khz is designed for relics in iron and trash and for jewelry and coins. So for a little more than the T2se I got an O8 and a G2 to use and they can swap coils around on them too. I believe you can't do that with the T2 and that was another of my considerations going in. So I can use that 5"dd on either machine and the 11"dd too.

The silver may just not be there as much as before as the years have gone by and more may have been cleaned out so there isn't going to be as much to find now and if it is there it's co-located with trash/iron usually. I don't think it's deep like most think as I haven't found most anything deeper than 8" -10" here and I have top line machines Etrac,Omega8000, G2 and AT Pro most I find are in iron/trash and not as easy to find. BUT back then most discriminated out the low stuff so there may be more nickles and jewlery and such to find as you have done with the AT Pro still left in the ground, I have an At-Pro also for beach/water useage and it is a very good coin seperation machine. I found 10 mercs last year with it in with the iron 6-8" deep. At 9" there is a layer of yellow soil under the top 8"' of black dirt and at 10" it becomes clay under that so most objects around here are no more than 8" deep. Ground is at 80-85 mineralization around here lots of iron in the soil..

No matter which way you decide you will be pleased with these machines. I got mine from Bart on here he will treat you good.

Tom

I havent used the F75 or the Omega but I have been using my T2 for a while now! I absolutely love this machine! The first month or so I wasnt sure because I wasnt familiar with it. Once I learned how the T2 likes to run I dont think Im leaving anything behind! Two days ago I dug a 1976 Indian right in my front yard! My yard has been detected many times by me with my old fisher and a buddy with a MXT. Once I got the T2 it was like a new site again! I found 2 indians, 2 buffalos, a silver ring, a rosie and a bunch of other cool finds! What Pops said is exactly how I feel! Yea it doesnt have the notch but I wouldnt use it either if it did have it. If you are hunting trashy areas the T2 is a beast! I can pull the coins out even if there is Iron and nails everywhere! The depth is great too on the T2! Even when Im running low sense it still suprises me with some really deep targets. If there is a coin down there the T2 will get it. The biggest thing with the T2 in my opinoin is- you have to figure out which settings work best for different types of situations. Once you learn how the T2 likes to run you will be unstoppable! Its also SUPER light! You can swing that thing for days without your arm getting tired! Another thing I like about the T2 is you can run your disc rather high without losing much depth! Im sure you will be happy with whatever one you choose so happy hunting with your new machine! Let us know what you decide to go for! The T2 is one bad ass machine!!!

That said .."You would not be sorry with the T2".... all around excellent detector. Very deep too.

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Thank you all for the great input. It is much appreciated. I am still undecided but leaning toward the T2 or F75.

i have the f-75 and it is a "crackerjack" coin hound!
if you decide to grab the 75,make sure you buy the 5" dd coil
with it.i live in new england,and have 350 years of trash in the ground
so this little coil is truly an amazing coin sniper in the "crap" a bit of advise!
"bounce" the money from dealer to dealer,and give yourself a chance to cut the best deal!
good luck!..

(h.h.!)
j.t.

I haven't used either of the other 2 machines you mentioned but I do have the Omega, I like having the notch feature and have used it on occassion, my biggest complaint with the Omega is the EMI issues (95% of the time I'm unable to set my sensitivity above 60 in places that I hunted with my DeLeon and was able to run almost wide open) so that may be a factor also with the T2 if your planning on using it in town. Good luck with whatever machine you decide on. Jimmie

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Can the Omega find coins the T2 will not find. I strictly look for coins only as our area is not that old to have great relics. I would probably use the 5 inch coil in high trash areas. If I bought the Omega will I miss coins in the taller grass and plowed fields.

No and it was designed as a coin machine from the ground up. Every bit as hot as T2 on coins and with better stability and it id's coins better at depth not as jumpy. The 11" coil goes deep on this machine. Read past posts about all this on here from user that have or had both including head engineer/ designer Dave Johnson.
It's 7.8khz frequency which is better for coins also.
It was designed from the factory from the ground up to be a killer coin machine. That 5" coil goes deep and seperates extremely well in trash. Great combo.