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Titan 9000
Posted by: Bucksport
Date: November 14, 2012 10:10AM
Just noticed that the Titan 9000 is being advertised at KC. The unit is an obvious Time ranger. The manual had a 2012 FT copyright, so I wonder if any improvements have been made to it? or are they using up the last of the old parts to clean house.



"Swing the coil east to west, then north to south, rinse, reverse, repeat"

White's Classic III SL
Bounty Hunter Time Ranger
Eurotek Pro w/8" coil
2 X BH Tracker IV, one with 4" and other with 8" coil
Vibra probe, HF PP

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Bucksport
Date: November 15, 2012 04:36PM
I have to send a thanks to Scully. I called him today with my questions on this unit. He didn't have the answers for me, but he found the answers, and called me later to fill me in. FT has definetly made a good choice with this guy :) Thanks again Gene.



"Swing the coil east to west, then north to south, rinse, reverse, repeat"

White's Classic III SL
Bounty Hunter Time Ranger
Eurotek Pro w/8" coil
2 X BH Tracker IV, one with 4" and other with 8" coil
Vibra probe, HF PP

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: November 15, 2012 10:06PM
What did you learn, or is it a secret? :? Buttons and screen look the same. I'm happy to see it continued in production by any name. I own three Time Rangers, so you might say I'm fond of 'em. :inlove:
-Ed

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Bucksport
Date: November 15, 2012 11:13PM
All that was told to me that there were a few tweaks made to it. That could mean just about anything. All that means to me is that the engineers took another look and made some minor adjustments to make it a little better :) I am happy that new units are being made available to the public from a solid source, and with a solid 5 yr warranty. Better than taking a chance at a unit that has been improperly stored in bulk storage by a bulk fleabay seller :)



"Swing the coil east to west, then north to south, rinse, reverse, repeat"

White's Classic III SL
Bounty Hunter Time Ranger
Eurotek Pro w/8" coil
2 X BH Tracker IV, one with 4" and other with 8" coil
Vibra probe, HF PP

Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Drkstr62
Date: November 16, 2012 12:12AM
After reading the forum, I went to the KC website to look at the T9000. It does look a lot like the Time Ranger. The main thing that I noticed was the face is black with white buttons.
I am sure it is a good MD if it is the same as the TR.



Bounty Hunter Time Ranger with 4", 8" & 10" Coils. Garrett Pro-Pointer and Bounty Hunter Pin Pointer. Fiskars Big Grip Digging Tool.

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: JB(MS)
Date: November 16, 2012 10:14PM
I liked the Time Ranger. It worked great in my very mild ground, but it had a few warts that needed fixing before I would buy one. The auto ground balance only worked in all metal mode, disc mode ground balance was preset and that could be a problem in ground with higher mineralization levels. If any changes were made to the discrimination settings. like notching out meter segments, it reverted back to the turn on preset settings if the pinpoint mode was used. and last,the preset discrimination setting was too high. The lowest numerical readout it accepted in Program ! was 19, and several girls and womens gold rings I checked were rejected. I changed the settings and the rings were accepted with readouts of 17 and 18, but using pinpoint made the setting revert back to 19. Not a big deal, but having to either pinpoint in disc mode or making the changes over and over was aggravating. Other than that it did work well. It got excellent depth and was the quietest detector I've used. No false signals and not even a click on rejected targets. Hopefully, they made some changes that corrected the "warts".

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: November 17, 2012 09:40PM
Hi JB, Wasn't that some time ago when you tested the Time Ranger? You may have tried a prototype or earlier version of what is now referred to as the V4? I've read your review of it, but would have to go back to refresh my memory.

I agree the preset ID segments could use some fine-tuning and I always felt the sniff and early-version blanker modes were too broad as well. I tend to ignore the Disc options P1 through P3, and choose P4 motion all-metal from the presets. I use the Disc Target custom mode to fine-tune the iron-disc level as you get 4 levels of iron disc in that mode.

But to be truthful, I usually don't use any disc at all and swap between the three modes of no-motion, P4, or Disc Target with all segments accepted. That amounts to three different modes that I run with no disc.I hit a target, then if I feel a need, I check on-screen ID in disc and decide myself to dig or not. I want to hear all signals to help handle coil-edge falsing, multiple targets and other effects. Besides, in the rugged mining country I tend to hunt in, iron or bullet signals can be just as interesting as the really rare coin signal. Hunting for nuggets also means I want to hear it all.

When coinshooting the local schoolyard, I often find a lot of really rusty, sharp and nasty-looking iron bits along with the coins and trash. So again I tend to hunt with no disc there too, and even if I skunk on coins, I feel like I did some kid a favor by removing things that can cause injury. I'm not a Nurse Jenny, but I'm glad to do that sort of thing the few times I might happen to hunt there.

I haven't seen where settings are reverted to a default setting when switching modes on the v4 Time Ranger. I can pop between all three modes and all my settings are kept. I'll try to duplicate what you observed and see how mine behaves.

Seek out the older "V2" Time Ranger for another take on this venerable detector. That older version provides full ID in no-motion and has a continuously variable sensitivity in that mode that is separate from the disc mode sensitivity setting. There is no "P4" mode, and the GB control behaves differently as well. I prefer the older V2, but that's just the way I like to roll. The last-offered "v4" Time Ranger is also good, for its own reasons. Forced to choose between V2 or V4, I'd take the V2, mostly for the threshold sensitivity and ID in no-motion.

Now all this has got me wondering about the Titan and what's been changed in it!

-Ed



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2012 10:03PM by Ed in SoDak.

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Bucksport
Date: November 17, 2012 10:16PM
It would be nice for someone close to Florida to check it out in the store to let us all know how it works :) If there are some good improvements I would have no problem throwing down the 400 bucks for one.



"Swing the coil east to west, then north to south, rinse, reverse, repeat"

White's Classic III SL
Bounty Hunter Time Ranger
Eurotek Pro w/8" coil
2 X BH Tracker IV, one with 4" and other with 8" coil
Vibra probe, HF PP

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: November 17, 2012 11:30PM
I spent $550 apiece on a pair for Sandy and myself back in 2001 and still feel it's the best money I spent on a detector yet. We both love 'em and we have very different hunting styles. I'm the techno-nerd, always analyzing, while she hunts turn-on and go. She usually bests my finds just because she digs more and frets less, lol. But I can follow behind her and locate the targets she gave up on. It's good to have a multi-purpose machine like the Time Ranger that suits our very different styles.

Its quiet-running is a great positive. If it's cackling at you, it means there's lots of targets beneath. I think that technology has surpassed it in speed of response in the disc modes and probably in raw depth as well, but when you limit that to capturing a solid ID, maybe depth is not all that much different. The no-motion mode discloses all targets as the coil hits 'em, so the lack of processor speed is not so much of a factor in that mode.

My soil runs from variable to bad and the Time Ranger seems to handle it. If I run into odd patches that sound off everywhere, dragging a magnet in the soil finds the bits of iron or rusty clay that causes it. It sure has its limits in some situations, but they can be dealt with or least interpreted for what they are. In my location, these are in small pocket, not pervasive and might relate to gold deposits, so I'm happy to be able to identify them when I come across iron-rich soils. Any VLF machine will show similar ID shifts and the other problems of detecting these areas.

I also own a T2 and I find I am so familiar with my Time Ranger I still tend to chose it first. The T2 is a hot machine, and I'm learning to like it more as I learn it. I've been playing around with a lot of detectors this year, just scratching an old itch, you might say. My basis of comparison for performance and features is always my Time Ranger and it hasn't been toppled yet.

My bias is showing and I happily admit it!

-Ed



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2012 11:41PM by Ed in SoDak.

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Mode switching
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: November 18, 2012 01:57AM
I did a quick test tonight on my V4 Time Ranger. I can set up no-motion all metal (pinpoint mode), any of the P1 through P4 Preset modes and the customized Disc Target mode and swap freely between them with no resetting just by pushing the appropriate button once. Each mode has its own button, and the screen helps keep track of which you've chosen. Hitting one or another of the buttons a second time or holding it down, in the case of the Smart Trac button, might engage the next option in the list, reset custom programming or perform a fresh ground balance.

For casual hunting, once you've set up the three modes, one button press moves between them and remembers your settings as you swap. Personally, I like the ability to swap modes, but it does tend to lead to more button-pressing. To get ID, you have to be in the proper mode, as an example. You may have to switch back and forth from no-motion to disc if you want to hunt in no-motion but still get an ID on your targets.

I'd presume the Titan 9000 to follow that method of switching between modes. My early V2 machine behaves in a somewhat similar fashion, though it only has two basic modes to chose from, not three like the V4 machine has. But it has ID in no-motion, so I can hunt in just that mode and still enjoy ID, though without any disc. Hey, it works for me! Visit my Time Ranger page to get into the nitty-gritty of the differences between the several versions. http://www.whiteriverprep.com/vintage/timeranger/timeranger.html

-Ed



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2012 02:08AM by Ed in SoDak.

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Re: Titan 9000
Posted by: Bucksport
Date: November 18, 2012 10:50AM
Ed, great info and insight as usual :thumbup: I have enjoyed reading about The Time Ranger from you and a few others since around 03. That was on the old Bounty Hunter forum on their website. Sure wish we could get ahold of some of the old posts on that site. Pineapple, you, and a few others sure had some great info about the TR.



"Swing the coil east to west, then north to south, rinse, reverse, repeat"

White's Classic III SL
Bounty Hunter Time Ranger
Eurotek Pro w/8" coil
2 X BH Tracker IV, one with 4" and other with 8" coil
Vibra probe, HF PP

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Ed.........
Posted by: JB(MS)
Date: November 18, 2012 09:51PM
That test was done 9 years ago, about this time of the month in November of 2003. I've used a 505 and several other BH models since then, but not another Time Ranger and wondered if any changes were made in the production models. From what you said in your post it appears changes were made, either that or the one I tested had a problem because regardless of which mode was used it always reverted back to the turn on preset settings if pinpoint was used.

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Re: Ed.........
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: November 18, 2012 10:27PM
Hi JB,

That resetting to default would be frustrating to say the least. Might be they were trying out different software or something or maybe a glitch crept in on your test unit. I'm glad they omitted that "feature" in the final version.

Hi Buck,

Yeah I was camped out at the original BH forum for quite awhile. I wished I would have saved off some of the old threads. For quite awhile, you could still find some parts of the forum still active and I would go there from time to time to steer the lost souls to the replacements forums. It never was quite the same after the forum got stomped on by spammers and drive-by malicious posts. Pineapple still keeps his website up with detector reports, he hasn't been posting much for years, but I think he reads the forums sometimes.


-Ed

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Re: Ed.........
Posted by: Ed in SoDak
Date: September 24, 2013 02:53AM
I'm going to bump this old post back to the top since there's some new questions about the Time Ranger and the old BH forum that this post addresses.
-Ed

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Should be a gold ring killer.
Posted by: nick hunter
Date: February 10, 2014 12:27AM
I bought a 2nd hand V4 Time Ranger a few years ago, and I like it very much.

A "new" feature of the V4 (vs former versions) is that the TID range has been brought back to 165, instead of 299.

As a side-effect, 99% of all the pulltabs and ringpulls (beaver tails) fall into the "5c" range.

This makes the "tab" range very questionable if you are looking for gold rings.

The TID will lock on to one or two digits on regular-shaped targets (coins, rings) up to 6" depth, so it is very easy to ID a target before unearthing it.

I found gold rings with it with locked TID's at numbers I do not see very often (21 in the 5c range, 39 & 44, this last number several times, in the tab range).

In fact I can't remember finding a beaver tail in the Tab range.

This unit is a sleeper as far as gold rings are concerned. Plus I conducted some interesting tests using the "deep target" indicator, finding coins & trinkets at above-average depth

A very underrated detector at its time, The Titan 9000 seems to share the same guts,(same user manual), and should be preferred to many other detectors in that price range if you consider finding gold rings with reliable TID info.

HH

Nick



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2014 12:30AM by nick hunter.

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