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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: bradley
Date: April 28, 2012 08:27AM
yeah its true i have been hunting this one old place for the past week and i will get a good clear two way signal 12-45 12-46 somtimes 12-43 and im almost positive its silver and then all i find is a few rusty nails i have dug plenty of nails about the only thing i dont like about the etrac

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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Goes4ever
Date: April 28, 2012 08:46AM
I would LOVE to see someone post a video where they get a CLEAR two way 12-46 on a nail......it has NEVER happened to me in two yrs of owning the etrac.

Scratchy signal yes, but clear solid signal, cant see it happening. Someone prove me wrong....post a video, include the signal with audio, and show your etrac screen, i bet it is a scratchy signal and being new to the etrac your just wanting a good signal and your thinking you have a good signal when in reality it is a walk away from signal....then dig it and ahow me what it is......someone please prove to me.

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Right on the money Terry :thumbup:
Posted by: Ray-Mo.
Date: April 28, 2012 10:06AM
The problem of digging rusty nails is mostly a lack of learning/understanding the difference between a good audio signal and a not so good one. Also if not using good high quality headphones you are severely handicapping yourself and the E-Trac.

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: April 28, 2012 10:35AM
If only dig the perfect signals you are leaving a lot of coins in the ground. Yeah a scratchy signal may be a nail, but I have dug a number of silver like that too.

Anyone who only digs 12-45 type signals can be my hunting buddy ANY day. :twodetecting: :lmfao:

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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Dig EM
Date: April 28, 2012 11:20AM
I have been searching around old barns so nails are going to happen. I have found silver around these barns in the past that why i'm there again. Trying to learn the E-trac to see if it locates better than my DFX. I have found coins that either me or my DFX has missed and some are deep! But i'm getting nails that i'm sure the DFX would have passed over on purpose. I'm sure the E-trac is going to take time to learn thats why i'm here to get input.

I agree, I have owned my Etrac for a year and have not dug a nail with a 12-45, 46
Posted by: sandnsea49
Date: April 28, 2012 12:42PM
signal yet, or ever. In fact I dig very few iron targets at all. I use Andy's coin program and have no problems. I love my Etrac.

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Prep1957
Date: April 28, 2012 03:53PM
I think my 8x6 really cut down my nail digging to almost nothing.I wonder if of how many of you digging are using Pro Coil.

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: gunwolf
Date: April 28, 2012 04:56PM
well I can't video, but as I said I have dug 12-45,46 signals not bouncy...solid and got rusty iron. like you guys have posted it is probably my learning curve , and I need to listen to clarity of tones...I listen for nice repeating high tones then glance at the screen just for ID sake, check depth, turn 90deg check again...hit quick mask...if it doesn't bounce way down to the right ...I dig. I trust you E-trac guys that constantly post your great finds...you obviously know what your talking about...believe me...I am listening to you.
after just a few months I am far from being a E-trac master and everytime out I learn something new. just last month I was complaing I couldn't find an IH penny...then I figured out what I was doing wrong and now I have over 25! so yes I will start to listen to my tones more and hopefully find less nails...even though they are everywhere around here!!!!
what sensitivity are you guys running? if your in auto what is your MD running at? ...I have been finding less nails and more keepers this past week with my ACE250 while MY E-trac is being looked at. can't wait to get it back...service said about two and a half weeks.



E-trac,Ace250, garrett PP's...oldest coin to date 1819 LC

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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Goes4ever
Date: April 28, 2012 05:01PM
90% of the time I run my sens at auto+3....around here I get in the mid 20's. If I am on a clean site, like a ballfield I will use manual and crank it to 29-30. I feel auto +3 works best for me, old coins are rarely more than 7-8" in my area, and i can hit a 8" deep coin on sens of 19 easy. So no worries for me.

U will get more iron falsing if you run your etrac too hot as well, keep that in mind. But still if you turning 90 degrees and rechecking the target, using quickmask, etc.....you shouldnt be digging very many nails at all.

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: gunwolf
Date: April 28, 2012 06:16PM
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90% of the time I run my sens at auto+3....around here I get in the mid 20's. If I am on a clean site, like a ballfield I will use manual and crank it to 29-30. I feel auto +3 works best for me, old coins are rarely more than 7-8" in my area, and i can hit a 8" deep coin on sens of 19 easy. So no worries for me.

U will get more iron falsing if you run your etrac too hot as well, keep that in mind. But still if you turning 90 degrees and rechecking the target, using quickmask, etc.....you shouldn't be digging very many nails at all.

thank you...I also am running auto +3 (I use your settings) usually running around 16-20...so running hot is not an issue..I am thinking it is more lack of experience, just need more time:wink: again many thanks to you and a few others who continually reach out to help us new E-trac owners...you guys have saved me months of trial and error already:beers:



E-trac,Ace250, garrett PP's...oldest coin to date 1819 LC

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: UncleTom
Date: April 28, 2012 06:28PM
I'm running the pro coil with great success.

Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: khouse
Date: April 28, 2012 07:32PM
I have pulled many nails and misc iron from holes next to, above, below and beside coins. It's possible you came across the trash first then thinking that was the target cover the hole and move on. Also make sure your trash density is on high. Even if there's no trash.



Kenny
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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: NebTrac
Date: April 28, 2012 09:38PM
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I would LOVE to see someone post a video where they get a CLEAR two way 12-46 on a nail......it has NEVER happened to me in two yrs of owning the etrac.

Scratchy signal yes, but clear solid signal, cant see it happening. Someone prove me wrong....post a video, include the signal with audio, and show your etrac screen, i bet it is a scratchy signal and being new to the etrac your just wanting a good signal and your thinking you have a good signal when in reality it is a walk away from signal....then dig it and ahow me what it is......someone please prove to me.

I don't know if this will count Terry. I did get a video of a sheet metal screw (you know the kind, self tapping - ¼ inch hex head) that I got a 2 way hit on. BUT, I'm assuming you mean 2-way on the 90º and not the 180º. I've dug a number of bent nails where I can get a 2-way on the 180º.

Like you said though, I can't recall getting a 2-way 90º to sound off.

NebTrac



Minelab E-Trac, SunRay X-1 Probe and Pro-Gold Headphones,
Predator Model 85

Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/NebTrac?feature=mhum

Romans 10:8-10
II Corinthians 5:21

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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: Goes4ever
Date: April 28, 2012 09:44PM
Neb, two way on 180 doesn't count in my opinion, because basically the coil is passing over it in the same direction, where in a 90 degree it is hitting it differently, make sense?

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Re: Why so many nails in coin program?
Posted by: NebTrac
Date: April 28, 2012 09:52PM
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Neb, two way on 180 doesn't count in my opinion, because basically the coil is passing over it in the same direction, where in a 90 degree it is hitting it differently, make sense?

Yep. I've always thought the same as well. Only reason I videod that one was I was trying to get the mythical "nail on the coin" on film and become famous in the E-Trac world. :clap::please:

NebTrac



Minelab E-Trac, SunRay X-1 Probe and Pro-Gold Headphones,
Predator Model 85

Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/NebTrac?feature=mhum

Romans 10:8-10
II Corinthians 5:21

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