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overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 11:21AM
When I am detecting and come across a quarter that is on the surface while pinpointing it shows an overload this is in the coin and jewelry factory program no changes is this normal?

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: Rob (IL)
Date: February 10, 2012 11:26AM
First you have to check if the coil is good. Hold the coil at waist height , turn TX boost off, and set RX=15. The coil should not overload.

Next try the quarter with TX boost off if you had it on. You can't always run TX boost.

Finally let me know what you signal% reading is in the sensitivity zoom window.



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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 12:00PM
I checked for a bad coil and did not get an overload when i put it over a quarter i noticed that i forgot to turn rx down and on 15 it would just barely show a quarter signal super quick as i passed over it and overload as it was passing ...my gain was on 7 when i turned it up so i lowered it to 5 and it was stable with no overload.... I love this machine and i know I have a way to go to learn the ins and outs but won't give up...overloading on rx 7 does that tell you something? thanks thedoc

Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 12:10PM
I forgot to say which coil i was using it is the eclipse 5.3

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: Rob (IL)
Date: February 10, 2012 12:23PM
What about the signal% reading?



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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 12:36PM
on the factory settings it is 27.3 which is rx 7...on rx 15 it is 58.......when i dropped down to rx 5 it is 19.5

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: Larry (IL)
Date: February 10, 2012 12:37PM
Does it have the V on the mounting ear? I haven't had much experience with overloading but I would guess it has more to do with the small size of the coil and a larger close target. I would not worry much about the overloading of surface quarters, when it overloads, raise your coil up a couple of inches and rescan.

My suggestion is to call White's service, you may very well have a defective coil even though it does not overload in an air test. Also try lowering your discrimination sensitivity instead of the RX Gain and see if that helps.



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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 12:48PM
Yes it is a v rated coil I just thought it was strange to be overloading on a coin with the factory setting ...i will talk to whites and keep playing around with some settings but with the gain on 5 it is working good....thanks thedoc

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: Rob (IL)
Date: February 10, 2012 03:11PM
Now we are getting somewhere. What the 58% is telling you is with no target the coil is 58% of it way to overloading. I wouldn't hunt with RX15. The 27% is just fine.

Now the next step, in the same spot use your 10D2, if the % is much lower the coil has a problem.



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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 10, 2012 07:24PM
Rob i will get back with you tomorrow i had to pick up my wife and do some honeydo chores got home after dark and it is snowing......

Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 11, 2012 11:03AM
It ended up way lower I got at rx15 with the 10DD between 4 and 5.....at rx 7 between 2 and 3 ....at rx 5 between 1 and 2 .....thedoc

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: Rob (IL)
Date: February 11, 2012 11:31AM
OK, so it is all in your coil. When you call explain the readings between the 2 coils and you should be all set. You now know what the signal% means.

Before everybody calls Whites, the % reading has no affect on performance unless it is high enough to cause overloading. The SEF will run higher % readings than Whites coils but if they don't overload they work just fine.



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2012 11:46AM by Rob (IL).

Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: thedoc
Date: February 11, 2012 11:50AM
Thanks Rob I will give them a call on Monday........thedoc

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Re: overloading on quarters
Posted by: TC-NM
Date: February 17, 2012 11:33AM
Hey thedoc,

I use the v rated 5.3 eclipse coil too. Here is a simple way that I use including Rob's first response. Yes TX Boost - OFF. But I start with RX gain at 4 and increasing to say 11 or 12 or until it overloads. If that occurs, I back it down one number at a time until it smooths out. Had no problems with my 5.3 . . . very smooth. You might have a bad coil?

Good Luck,

TC-NM



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