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Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: goldbill
Date: May 29, 2012 04:10PM
Larry I have got to tell ya .Here in maine those 83/84's that aren't green are large cents !!!!! I do think of you and Rob every time Large cent or bottle cap Bill

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Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: Larry (IL)
Date: May 29, 2012 04:19PM
I will have to check that out Bill, but we are not blessed with a lot of LC's here in the Midwest. I have found two in the last 30 years.



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Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: Rob (IL)
Date: May 29, 2012 05:15PM
And I have only one. I remember walking up to Larry and asking," What's this?"



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"You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment..."

Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: Blind Squirrel
Date: May 30, 2012 01:22PM
Howdy--

I thought that I would have to chime in on this one. A recent inquiry by Supafly spurred me to perform a few air tests of my own. I must admit that some of the results on gold coins surprised me. So I conducted a few more tests and I thought that I would share them.

Using the V3i, in the Coin Mode, with the D2 Coil and the settings of: RX 1, AM 55 and Disc 55, I had these results:

$1 Gold (Types 1,2 & 3) VDI......14-16......Dominant Frequency.....22.5 KHz
$2.5 Gold (Lib & Ind) VDI......33-35......Dominant Frequency......7.5 KHz
$3 Gold VDI......35-37......Dominant Frequency......7.5 KHz
$5 Gold (Lib & Ind) VDI......49-50......Dominant Frequency......7.5 KHz
$10 Gold (Lib & Ind) VDI......54-58......Dominant Frequency......7.5 KHz
$20 Gold (Lib & St. G) VDI......74-75......Dominant Frequency......2.5 KHz
$50 Gold Buffalo .9999 VDI......87-89.....Dominant Frequency.......2.5 KHz

All coins are either PCGS or NGC slabbed. I don't know what , if any, influence the incapsulation had on any of these readings.

Hopefully this information will put a Gold Coin in your pouch!

Happy Hunting
Blind Squirrel

Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: supafly136
Date: May 30, 2012 01:44PM
fantastic info Squirrel!!

thx

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Re: Rejection by dominate frequency
Posted by: Larry (IL)
Date: May 30, 2012 02:23PM
Now that is funny, I remember that..........:clapping:



Bells and whistles are nice, but nothing will substitute for the basic understanding of the hobby.

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Re: Modulation
Posted by: Schultzie
Date: May 30, 2012 07:18PM
Just curious..... why is the dominant frequency mostly 7.5 kHz and even one 2.5 kHz? I thought gold was supposed to hit the high frequency (22.5 kHz) the hardest. When hunting old fair ground parking lots, I would only dig targets on the low end of the positive VDI range if 22.5 kHz dominated... figuring it was possibly deep gold. Guess I need to rethink my thought process.



Happy hunting - Schultzie

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Re: Modulation
Posted by: Larry (IL)
Date: May 30, 2012 08:03PM
Dominate frequency is determined by conductivity AND mass. .



Bells and whistles are nice, but nothing will substitute for the basic understanding of the hobby.

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Re: Modulation
Posted by: magic
Date: May 30, 2012 11:21PM
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Larry (IL)
Dominate frequency is determined by conductivity AND mass. .

Larry is correct. Most of the gold rings I have found have come in on the 7.5 frequency. Very few on the 22.5. No gold on the 2.5 frequency.
Remember that gold rings isn't pure and the kt. will vary. So will the size which will effect which frequency hits hardest.
If its shallow, (above 4 inches) VDI consistency at different angles is a good indication of a ring. Changing vdi's will usually be junk. But remember nothing is 100%.



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