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MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 24, 2017 02:41PM
Has anyone compared depth loss, if any, using the 5x8 coil vs. the std.. 8.5x11 ? Also is there a lighter, by at least 20%-40%, aftermarket coil that will meet or exceed the 8x11 in depth and separation but also about the same size. I extended the armrest back 2" and even turned the coil around. It' still end heavy for me. Same as the Pro/Gold. Most "hunters" are very mechanical and constantly looking to improve on things. I have the5x8 but would prefer a slightly bigger coil for field relic hunting. Any help would be much appreciated.

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MAX Answers---
Posted by: John-Edmonton
Date: September 24, 2017 03:10PM
Below I have a video with depth tests using three Garrett Coils.....5 x 8, 8.5 x 11, & 9 x 12. This was a live test with coins buried in the ground.

To lighten the weight, you can shorten the rod extension, creating less stress on your elbow joint, switch to a straight rod and transfer the weight more to your shoulder, do exercises to maintain and increase strength in your arm/shoulder muscles and a company, "Nel" does make after market coils. You have to order the ones which are designed for the AT Pro, as they are the only ones compatible to the MAX currently.

Hope this helps.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgfvB9QSPww

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 24, 2017 07:19PM
Thanks John. I'll look into all your suggestions. Seems way ,way back I used to fly into a Canadian Air Force base at Edmonton. Is it still there? That was over 50 years ago. I was U.S. Navy.

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Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: John-Edmonton
Date: September 24, 2017 11:03PM
That would have been Namao, correct? I actually worked there for one year as a civilian. There used to be an annual air show there, with aircraft from all over the world. I used to fly hot air balloons for a living 30+ years ago, and used to do tethered balloon rides at the air show. The base is still active, however, the runway and tower are now closed. The runway was long enough that it was considered an alternative emergency landing strip for the space shuttles from NASA. Small world, isn't it?

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: Albert
Date: September 25, 2017 07:09AM
I just purchased the 9x5.5 nel fortune coil for the at max. Haven't really tested it hard but it seems to be about the same weight as the 5x8 which I also have . The fortune has a little more coverage area and I did dig a few pennies around the 6-7 inch depth . Like I said I didn't have much time but it seems to be a nice to coil add to your equipment. Will continue testing and let you know how it goes . HH

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: Buddy_TX
Date: September 25, 2017 06:10PM
Well in "my" opinion for an after market coil I use the NELS 5.5x9 and see NO depth difference to the 8.5x 11, the other one I use is the Garrett 6.5x9 concentric and also do not see any depth loss.
If you have someone close try one of there's before you buy. You may be surprised .
I have the garrett 5x8 , 6x9 concentric , 8,5x11 , 9x12 concentric and the NEL 5.5x9. right now my favorite setup is the 6x9 concentric on my MAX and the NEL 5.5x9 on my PRO




AT MAX
AT PRO
Detector Pro Wader, 8" and 10"
Detector Pro Pirate Pro
Tesoro Stingray
Fisher 1280x
Whites Amphibian and Surfmaster TR
Tesoro Silver saber
Tesoro Golden Saber II
Garrett S-1, S-2, S-3 TRs
Compass Q.
Silver Turtle
TR Turtle
VLF Turtle
and a few odd balls in the back of the closet



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2017 06:16PM by Buddy_TX.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 26, 2017 08:51PM
Yes John a small world. We would refuel and sometime spend the night there on the way to the Arctic, over to Tromso, Norway, Oslo, then to Thule and once in a while to Keflavik and back through Canada. Loved Canada. We were always treated royally. Never could figure how the Canadian pilots could drink so much liquor up till take-off and never kill themselves. Hot air balloons? Forget it. Sounds like a good way to kill yourself. Did spend one tour flying airships (anti sub warfare). When nuke subs came in they could outrun us. 362' long and only 55-65 knots and pray for little to no head wind. My wife is buried in Peggy's Cove near Halifax. Killed on Swissair Flt. 111 , Sept. 2nd. 1998. Her beauty, sweetness and kindness lives on in our daughter. Who knows, maybe I'll meet you one day. Better be soon though. Age. God Bless Canada.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 26, 2017 08:54PM
Albert, thanks for the info. Will start looking tomorrow.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 26, 2017 08:56PM
A lot of info. THANKS. I'm in overload. Will look at it again tomorrow.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: OCC Hunter
Date: September 26, 2017 11:00PM
Has anyone had the headphones lose the z-link and the detector go back to external speaker? Happened twice. I had the headphones and detector normal distance apart each time.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: marcomo
Date: September 27, 2017 08:50AM
Woody, I can't even begin to fathom what you went through almost 20 years ago. Very belated condolences.

Hopefully all will get straightened out for you with the Max.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: woody
Date: September 27, 2017 10:19AM
Thanks. It still hurts everyday. Never stops.

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: Buddy_TX
Date: September 27, 2017 05:45PM
Albert I believe the 5.5x9 is the NEL Sharpshooter (I have one) and the 9x13 is the NEL Fortune.



AT MAX
AT PRO
Detector Pro Wader, 8" and 10"
Detector Pro Pirate Pro
Tesoro Stingray
Fisher 1280x
Whites Amphibian and Surfmaster TR
Tesoro Silver saber
Tesoro Golden Saber II
Garrett S-1, S-2, S-3 TRs
Compass Q.
Silver Turtle
TR Turtle
VLF Turtle
and a few odd balls in the back of the closet

Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: Albert
Date: September 27, 2017 07:17PM
Sorry Buddy . It's the cors 9x5.5 coil it's also called fortune . Not the nel. Can't upload foto. File too big.

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Re: MAX Questions---
Posted by: John-Edmonton
Date: September 27, 2017 08:18PM
You speak so kindly of your wife. She must have been a real special person! Very nice comment about how her sweetness and kindness remain through your daughter! And......yes, who know, we just could cross paths some day

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