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Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: March 07, 2011 10:09PM
Has anyone used the Omega 10" concentric coil on the G2?-----If so, how did it perform?----Is there ANY advantage in using that coil on the G2 versus the 5" DD or stock 11" DD?-----The Greek series coils (at least in the DD's) are inter-changable with the GBSE/G2.---Not sure about the concentrics.-------No guesses now--does anyone have any (concrete) info on this?---------Del

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Re: Coil
Posted by: Ken in Georgia
Date: March 07, 2011 10:48PM
I don't but Steve has a coil for his F70 maybe he will chime in on this. Steve please tell us if that coil works on your new detector.



HH
Ken in Georgia


Detectors own DFX, Tejon, X-3, Cibola, Vaquero, Cortez, CZ-5, 1265x, 1266x, Siver Sabre II. ID Excel, Amigo, Golden, DeLeón, G2 (the best iron eater in the world) 5 inch coil , 11inch coil. E Trac.

Re: Coil
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: March 08, 2011 12:09AM
Ken----Thanks for your response but I'm not talking/asking about the Fisher "F" series coils.----I'm referring to the Tek "Greek series" coils. (in particular, the Omega 10" concentric--for use on the G2).---------There has been a lot of talk about the "F" series coils (F-75 & F-70) for use on the G2 and Omega.----I believe Dave J. cautions about purchasing ANY the "F" coils for use on the GBSE, G2 or "Greek series" detectors (Alpha, Delta, Gamma or Omega).-------I joke a lot about testing but am actually a "stickler" on coil & detector tests.-------Here's what I found out quite awhile ago & results of my tests on the above mentioned detectors/coils.----I used four different coils (2-10" concentrics & 2-11" DD's) off of two of our F-75 LTD's.----I rotated these four coils around on two of our Omegas, testing these four coils on our Omegas.----I didn't think they did too bad on my tests & even hunted with them on the Omegas (coin hunts & with fair results).----------BUT, when I purchased two Tek 11" DD coils (for the Omegas) and tested them (on the Omegas) against the two Fisher 11" DD coils (on the Omegas), the Tek coils gave FAR better performance on the Omegas than the Fisher coils (including better tonal "hits" AND depth).-----WHY??---Because the Tek coils are designed for optimal performance on the Tek machines and the Fisher F-75/70 coils are designed for optimal performance on the Fisher machines.----It DOES make a difference---just because they have "like connectors" doesn't mean they are going to give you peak performance.-------I'm goin huntin!!! :wink:-----------Del

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Re: Coil
Posted by: Ken in Georgia
Date: March 08, 2011 04:51AM
Do you think that coiltek coils are good ? Thanks for the information Good to know ! :thumbup:



HH
Ken in Georgia


Detectors own DFX, Tejon, X-3, Cibola, Vaquero, Cortez, CZ-5, 1265x, 1266x, Siver Sabre II. ID Excel, Amigo, Golden, DeLeón, G2 (the best iron eater in the world) 5 inch coil , 11inch coil. E Trac.

Re: Coil
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: March 08, 2011 05:30AM
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Ken in Georgia
Do you think that coiltek coils are good ? Thanks for the information Good to know ! :thumbup:
Ken------My personal opinion--yes most of the coiltek coils are "good" coils---but that's a whole "nuther ballgame" than what we are talking here.----We used coilteks on our big Minelab gold machines in AZ and NV & liked them.------I used a 15" Coiltek on my Explorers and DID NOT like it.---Used the "Joey" coil on my Explorers & liked it, that was a nice little (effective) coil.---------Del

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Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: March 08, 2011 06:31AM
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Ken in Georgia
Do you think that coiltek coils are good ? Thanks for the information Good to know ! :thumbup:
Ken------My personal opinion--yes most of the coiltek coils are "good" coils---but that's a whole "nuther ballgame" than what we are talking here.----We used coilteks on our big Minelab gold machines in AZ and NV & liked them.------I used a 15" Coiltek on my Explorers and DID NOT like it.---Used the "Joey" coil on my Explorers & liked it, that was a nice little (effective) coil.---------Del I got to thinking about it and the coils we used on the Minelab gold machines were "Nugget Finder" coils (not Coilteks)--it's been awhile. :tongue:--They were good coils also.---We used the Coilteks on the Explorers.----------Del


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10" Oval Tek Coil
Posted by: morelic55
Date: March 08, 2011 06:36AM
Del, When I had My Omega, I tried the 10 stock coil on my G2 and was not really impressed with it, just no depth. I also pluged it into my GBSE Version 29 and it just made a siren noise, did not want to work. I'm perfectly happy with the 11" Biaxial coil on both the G2 & GBSE. If they were to release the 15" that is for the G2, well, I might give it a try.............Mark



Diggin' In The Missouri Ozarks

Del, because of the 'Greek' series concentric coils, I would like a
Posted by: Monte
Date: March 08, 2011 07:15AM
new coil for the G2 and other similar models.

Yes, I know the intention behind the Gold Bug Pro and G2 model designs, and that Dave J. said they were intended to be used only with the DD coils. My original G2 evaluation made it up to 3930 views and many of the e-mails I have received since I posted it on 10/30 had questions about the use of the concentric coils. I mentioned in it that I used all of the Greek series coils and they worked okay.

For the most part, and due to the detector's design and quick processing and response, there are definitely reasons why I like the 11" and 5" DD coils, however I did okay with the Omega's elliptical 10' concentric. A big talked about function of the G2/Gold Bug pro is the very brisk response and recovery, and that is partly credited to the use of the narrow scan of the Double-D design. The concentric coil design has its strong points as well, such as being better at discriminating and better side-approach coverage when working an area.

The round 8" concentric worked, but since I liked the 10" elliptical concentric on my Omega I did use it more than the 8". It worked OK for me in some of the places where I used it, and I liked the 9¾" long concentric coil because it's about 1½" shorter than the 11+" DD, plus narrower, plus a concentric which handled some trash better. I liked the balance and 'feel' of it better as well.

You might wonder if it is a coil I would use regularly compared with the 5" DD, which is just slightly wider than 4½", and my answer is maybe. I might even use the round 8" concentric, but for working in trashier sites the 5" DD does better, but isn't what I would like to have mounted. Instead, I would rather have a round concentric coil of about an honest 6" diameter size. By comparison with the sub-5" DD on the Omega or Gamma or G2, the White's M6 or MXT are best equipped, in my opinion, with the round 5.3 Eclipse.

This coil measures about 6½" across and has worked a lot better for coin hunting, relic hunting, and even nugget hunting (for me) than their elliptical DD that is about 3"X6½". It is the coil I used about 95% of the time on the M6 and MXT models I've owned and I really wish I had a smaller-size, round, concentric design for the Teknetics models. For me, an ideal size would be 6" in diameter.

On the G2 the Omega's elliptical concentric coil works, for me, but it is still too large for hunting in the trashier locations I like to hunt where a smaller coil is needed. There, a 5" DD will have to do for now and I'll just keep hoping for a slightly larger round concentric coil. If the area is open enough with less trash to use a larger coil, the 11" BiAxial DD can handle the task. Not that I like it a lot better than the Omega's standard coil, but they both can cover more open ground where there is less trash to encounter.

Honestly, I prefer smaller-than-stock coils for most of the hunting I do. If I was seriously working CW type relic sites and wanted a little more coverage and maybe a bit more depth, the new 15" for the F-75 and T2 models might be an interesting coil to try. I think it might help, but I also wonder just how well a larger coil would do considering the brisk processing of the G2/Gold Bug Pro.

I tried the concentric on a dealer's version 1 Gold Bug SE and they didn't work too well. They worked, but side-by-side with the G2 they didn't work as well. on MY G2 both concentrics worked. The biggest problem most people have with the Gold Bug Pro and G2 designs is that they need a brisker sweep, and while they give a nice quick response to shallower targets, they do trial off quickly as the target depth increases.

If it is a larger-size target and lower-conductive, they do better. If it is a smaller target and is a high-conductive type, especially, they do get weaker quickly. This is especially noticed with the sub-5" DD and that's one other reason I would like a round concentric coil made to work on the G2/GB Pro and Greek series models.

Monte



"Your Eyes, the ONLY 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"


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Monte V. Berry Sr.
monte@stinkwaterwells.com
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My main use favorites in order by brand:
White's
MXT Pro w/6½",
VX3 w/950
Tesoro
.. Replacement coming ..
Teknetics
Omega w/5½x9¾
G2 w/5" DD



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2011 07:26AM by Monte.

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