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Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: timwied
Date: July 07, 2017 08:39PM
Found this US Belt Buckle today. Is this a lead filled Civil War Buckle that most of the lead is gone? On the left side of the buckle in the picture of the back is kinda heavy, like it could be lead? I found it at an old homestead about 6 inches deep. The lady who lives there is the third generation resident. Her grandfather built most of the buildings. She had personally lived there since the 50's. I was trying to not dig much of a hole in her yard and I accidently hit it with my digger. Dang! Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks for looking!



Fisher F4, Garrett Pro Pinpointer Pro AT,Started Detecting December 31, 2013, Oldest 2014 - 1861 Seated Liberty Dime. 2015: 1863 & 1864 Indian Head Cents, 1 foot apart. 2016: 1700's Chinese Cash Coin & Fatty, no date, 1860-1864 Indian Head Cent, Two 52 caliber ringtail sharps Confederate Bullets, and 4 pistol balls in the same hole. Two Union Bullets, one is 58 caliber Williams Cleaner. 2017: 1863 Indian Head Cent, U.S. Civil War Waist Plate (Buckle), Sterling U.S. Collar Pin.


Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: TerryEastTexas
Date: July 07, 2017 09:31PM
Sweet! Congratulations on a super find. WTG!

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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: Digger70pa
Date: July 07, 2017 09:40PM
It looks like a cartridge box plate buddy. See the iron on it? A plate didn't have that. Great find though. HH



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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: timwied
Date: July 07, 2017 10:53PM
Thanks! At first I thought it may be a replica, because it was so thin, and not solid brass. But out in the middle of nowhere? And buried 6 inches deep? Thanks, Digger70pa! That's awesome! I found one on Ebay that looked a lot like mine, I would have not guessed that!



Fisher F4, Garrett Pro Pinpointer Pro AT,Started Detecting December 31, 2013, Oldest 2014 - 1861 Seated Liberty Dime. 2015: 1863 & 1864 Indian Head Cents, 1 foot apart. 2016: 1700's Chinese Cash Coin & Fatty, no date, 1860-1864 Indian Head Cent, Two 52 caliber ringtail sharps Confederate Bullets, and 4 pistol balls in the same hole. Two Union Bullets, one is 58 caliber Williams Cleaner. 2017: 1863 Indian Head Cent, U.S. Civil War Waist Plate (Buckle), Sterling U.S. Collar Pin.

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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: ironman200081
Date: July 10, 2017 08:00AM
Awesome find man! Definitely a US cartridge box plate. It looks like the lead filling just sloughed out of the brass over time. That happens some times, or it may have been burned before.



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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: Cajuncoinhunter
Date: July 11, 2017 07:00AM
Great find !



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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: timwied
Date: July 11, 2017 11:58AM
Thanks guys, it was an exciting moment!!!



Fisher F4, Garrett Pro Pinpointer Pro AT,Started Detecting December 31, 2013, Oldest 2014 - 1861 Seated Liberty Dime. 2015: 1863 & 1864 Indian Head Cents, 1 foot apart. 2016: 1700's Chinese Cash Coin & Fatty, no date, 1860-1864 Indian Head Cent, Two 52 caliber ringtail sharps Confederate Bullets, and 4 pistol balls in the same hole. Two Union Bullets, one is 58 caliber Williams Cleaner. 2017: 1863 Indian Head Cent, U.S. Civil War Waist Plate (Buckle), Sterling U.S. Collar Pin.

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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: July 11, 2017 05:40PM
congrats! very nice find.

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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: Cajuncoinhunter
Date: July 13, 2017 07:21AM
Yes indeed. Those types of finds will get your heart rate up quickly. LOL. CCH



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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: TH'er
Date: July 13, 2017 09:31PM
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[attachment 347436 Front.jpg][attachment 347437 Back.jpg]Found this US Belt Buckle today. Is this a lead filled Civil War Buckle that most of the lead is gone? On the left side of the buckle in the picture of the back is kinda heavy, like it could be lead? I found it at an old homestead about 6 inches deep. The lady who lives there is the third generation resident. Her grandfather built most of the buildings. She had personally lived there since the 50's. I was trying to not dig much of a hole in her yard and I accidently hit it with my digger. Dang! Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks for looking!
There are at least three different know examples of US waist belt plates (see photograph) with a double iron wire hook, which this appears to be. The box plates had small loops (or eyes) of single wire, which were always positioned vertically near the ends of the plate.




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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: timwied
Date: July 15, 2017 12:07PM
So you think it is a waist belt plate, and not a cartridge box plate?



Fisher F4, Garrett Pro Pinpointer Pro AT,Started Detecting December 31, 2013, Oldest 2014 - 1861 Seated Liberty Dime. 2015: 1863 & 1864 Indian Head Cents, 1 foot apart. 2016: 1700's Chinese Cash Coin & Fatty, no date, 1860-1864 Indian Head Cent, Two 52 caliber ringtail sharps Confederate Bullets, and 4 pistol balls in the same hole. Two Union Bullets, one is 58 caliber Williams Cleaner. 2017: 1863 Indian Head Cent, U.S. Civil War Waist Plate (Buckle), Sterling U.S. Collar Pin.

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Re: Civil War U.S. Belt Buckle?
Posted by: timwied
Date: July 28, 2017 10:08PM
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timwied
[attachment 347436 Front.jpg][attachment 347437 Back.jpg]Found this US Belt Buckle today. Is this a lead filled Civil War Buckle that most of the lead is gone? On the left side of the buckle in the picture of the back is kinda heavy, like it could be lead? I found it at an old homestead about 6 inches deep. The lady who lives there is the third generation resident. Her grandfather built most of the buildings. She had personally lived there since the 50's. I was trying to not dig much of a hole in her yard and I accidently hit it with my digger. Dang! Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks for looking!
There are at least three different know examples of US waist belt plates (see photograph) with a double iron wire hook, which this appears to be. The box plates had small loops (or eyes) of single wire, which were always positioned vertically near the ends of the plate.

Thanks Th'er!!! That's awesome! I found more pictures that verify what you said, both box plates and belt plates!!!



Fisher F4, Garrett Pro Pinpointer Pro AT,Started Detecting December 31, 2013, Oldest 2014 - 1861 Seated Liberty Dime. 2015: 1863 & 1864 Indian Head Cents, 1 foot apart. 2016: 1700's Chinese Cash Coin & Fatty, no date, 1860-1864 Indian Head Cent, Two 52 caliber ringtail sharps Confederate Bullets, and 4 pistol balls in the same hole. Two Union Bullets, one is 58 caliber Williams Cleaner. 2017: 1863 Indian Head Cent, U.S. Civil War Waist Plate (Buckle), Sterling U.S. Collar Pin.

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